so why aren't there more jamie browders? betsey stevenson, who ran has a wry answer: "manly men" don't want to do "girly jobs." >> so if you look over the last 20 years, we've lost five million jobs in manufacturing and gained nine million jobs in education and health services. so we're more than making up for the jobs we're losing, but the characteristics of those jobs, the identity associated with a worker who holds one of those jobs, the pay associated with those jobs, are different. >> reporter: "different" by cultural stigma. and that's true of jobs in home healthcare, nursing, and early childhood education, like the job jamie browder has had and loved for 13 years. so i asked him: why don't more men go into this profession? >> i think it's a lack of information, a lack of understanding how you can contribute to the children's lives. lack of understanding what you mean to a community. >> reporter: so men see jobs like grade school teaching as low status, low upward mobility. >> it's almost like if you enter the classroo

it you look at cases like kalief browder who sat in a cage 360 of those days in solitary confinement over two years awaiting trial. so we have folks who are sitting in cages literally after three days -- after two days -- one day is enough, or losing or housing, their jobs, their children because they cannot afford to pay the money in order to get out, be able to mitigate their cases and be able to show back up to court. so we are seeing up to 700,000 people daily languish in cages because they cannot afford bail. it is modern-day bondage. it is hostage. our people are being held at ransom. a new report finds -- "created a way to profit from usurping the role and function of t the courtrts, trapped famis in debt while escaping scrutiny for consumer practices, made armed arrests anand surveilled people withohout meaningfuful ovoversight by police, and evavd insurance regulators." sandra bland comes to mind. she ends up dead in her jail cell because she could not raise the bond money to get out three days later. we're wrapping up with this comment, mary hooks. mary, with your comment o

since browder -- brown versus board of education. in then the -- they are midst of a break and we do expect this to resume shortly. live coverage, here on c-span. >> it will be a couple more minutes before the symposium continues. while we wait for the conversation on segregation to resume, we will show you a portion of today's white house briefing that wrapped at just a few moments ago. >> good afternoon. opportunityad the to pay your respects to the brave men and women who have given their lives for our freedom yesterday on memorial day. by recapping the historical trip that the president and the first lady just concluded. it was an extraordinary rate for america and our people. in nine days, the president traveled across europe in the middle east and interacted with nearly 100 foreign leaders. it was an unprecedented first trip abroad. it shows how quickly and decisively the president is acting to strengthen alliances, forming partnerships, and rebuilding america's standing in the world. have never seen such sweeping reassurance o