and, number three, the campaign for reelection does not want to talk about the brown beck experiment anymore. well, the great jeff greenfield just found that out on a reporting trip to kansas for the news hour on pbs. watch what sam brownbeck tells him here. this is just amazing. >> people, i don't think they don't like change, i don't think they trust change. i said, look, we've got to get our tax rates down. >> and about that experiment word? >> yeah, i shouldn't have used that word. but the good news is it's working well. we're growing. we've got record employment in kansas. >> then, after a brief discussion -- >> the things we're doing are not anything new. we've got nine states without an income tax. that's not new. nothing we're doing is new. it's new that we're doing it, but nothing that we're doing is typically what's been done before. >> nothing we're doing is new. now, it's new that we're doing it. nothing new here. >> it's not new. it's new that -- we're not doing anything new. what we're doing is new. it's new that we're doing it. did i say new? did i say we're doing an e