you. mr. brown, thank you very much, indeed. >> all rise. [inaudible conversations] >> be about a one hour break now as we hear the testimony of former british prime minister gordon brown in the british investigation into politicians and the media. we are expecting more from mr. brown after the break. later today, chancellor of the exchequer george osborn will answer questions, and we'll return to live coverage at the time. actually this afternoon we will hear from the chancellor of the exchequer george osborne himself and not from prime minister tbor done brown. -- gordon brown. a little later this week a number of political figures are expected at the table, including john major, labour party leader ed millibland and -- miliband and ed clegg. we'll have live coverage of that all this week here on c-span2. >>> as this break continues, opening remarks from earlier today with former prime minister gordon brown. >> may i call this morning's witness, the right honorable gordon brown, please? >> thank you very much. [inaudible conversations] >> i

>> and from site to site, as you point out. >> brown: so what does that mean different from site to sitewell, the composition. in other words the collection of different microorganisms and the numbers that are present so if you go to even two different parts of your body, whether you're talking about your mouth or different parts of your skin, we'll have a very different collection of these microbes. >> brown: and each person has a very different collection? >> absolutely. you're going to have a different collection at different sites depending upon who you are, maybe where you live, what environmental exposures you have and so forth. >> brown: would i have different from my wife, for example, if i'm living in a similar environment? >> you almost for certain would because, of course, your own genetic makeup is different and there's an interplay of your own genetics and the genetics of all the microbes. >> brown: you receive said most of the time we live in harmony with these microbes8xn and in t i guantanamoer there's a beneficial quality to them? >> of course, we couldn't digest the fo

and as the president said today, it's the right thing to do. >> brown: all right, cecilia munoz, thank you. >> brown: for a different take, republican congressman jim sensenbrenner joins us from wisconsin. he is a past chairman of the house judiciary committee and has criticized the administration's move. welcome, congressman, cecilia munoz and the president said very clearly it's the right thing to do. you disagree, why? >> strongly so. now first of all the dream act was rejected by a democratic congress in 2010. now what the president is doing is having napolitano do selective law enforcement. the law is still on the books. if you are here illegally you ought to be subject to deportation. there should be no selection between people who won't be deported and who who will be deported. if you break the law, you will have to suffer the consequences. that's called equal protection of the laws. which is something our constitution guarantees. >> brown: of course the argument here is that these are young people who came through no fault of their own, no responsibility for why they're he. they ha

you couple that with two recessions and you've got this enormous challenge in front of you. >> brown:h, what would you add to this to help us understand where we're seeing it and how serious it really is? >> well, $1.3 trillion is a lot of money. that's about $9,000 for every u.s. household but, in fact, those numbers are predicated on the assumption that all the asset it is states have in the pension systems are going to earn 8% compound annualized returns with certainty. anybody who's looked at their own accounts lately know that's very difficult particularly in an environment where ten year bonds are yielding 1.6%. so in fact when one uses principles of financial economics used by insurance companies and used in europe for pensions it turns out the problem is a lot worse. 4.4 trillion or almost $30,000 per u.s. household. >> brown: so the underfunding is by that a multiple worse than even what... even with today's bad report. >> yes. a multiple about about three and a half times worse. that's because the accounting for public sector pensions is done in a way that doesn't properly r

we're getting a few not so nice gestures. >> brown: gestures you don't want to make for us. >> correct. >> a million signed a petition to bring scott walker down! ♪ >> brown: supporters of scott walkers democratic opponent, milwaukee mayor tom barrett, have their own brand-- make that band-- of political passion. >> when you mess with wisconsin, you're messing with something that's very basic to the heartland of america. >> brown: state by street, neighbor by neighbor, everywhere you turn in this state it is loud, raucous, intensely divided. >> it's become a little bit of a circus... wisconsin politics all of a sudden are no longer civilized. >> brown: and the candidates themselves say that what happens in wisconsin will resonate far beyond the state, as it has in >> we have been a leader. years and years ago, it was progressive on the left. a generation ago, it was welfare reform and school choice on the right. i think we're a leader again. >> brown: you've been talking about taking on the special interests, who does that mean? >> public employee unions. the leadership of our public e

mayor lee: thank you, and they are brown, and thank you, everybody, for coming. -- thank you, mayor brown, and thank you, everybody, for coming. the years that followed the san francisco earthquake were filled with grandiose plans to rebuild our city. perhaps the best realize is the san francisco memorial -- war memorial and performing arts center. the ground was broken to build the war memorial in honor of san franciscans who had served during world war i. in addition to honoring those veterans, the memorial gave a permanent residence to the opera, the symphony, and eventually, the ballet. the war memorial and performing arts center has great historic significance, including housing, the signing ceremony of our united nations charter in 1945. today, we are making history erosity and support of mr. and mrs. stephen bechtel. with a grant of $1.5 million -- [applause] from there foundation and in honoring charlotte and george shultz, we are that much closer to fulfilling the original vision of the war memorial complex, which was to include a moral right in his courtyard. as a small token of

you know, and the-- as i said, the pressure is building for-- towards some kind of international intervention. >> brown: what do you see? what are the options? >> well, i mean, there are various different options that, you know, would basically create zones of syria in which the syrian government no longer has control and so forth. i think for a long time people were hoping that would act to speak to perhaps others within the syrian regime to bring about some sort of a change. there's been talk of a yemen-type solution in which,s in the regime would displace placeelassad and there could be a peaceful change leading towards a democratic transition but so far russia hasn't been motivate or maybe it can't do it, but it isn't happening. >> brown: which do you think it is, dimitri simes, from your talks with them? was there talk of any solutions possible that could possibly be accepted by the russians? >> well, i basically agree with everything michele dunne has said, but look at the situation from the russian perspective. the new president, pint, who doesn't view himself as a little puppy who will be treat

talking about it, it was the escape of this computer code, this computer virus. >> pelley: when you says.... >> brown when you say escape... >> literally it escaped. it was supposed to stay inside the plant and there were repeated attacks engineered in washington, in israel. they brought a new version in. it had a slight flaw in it. we've all gotten software over the years that needed a little bit more work and this one leapt aboard a laptop computer of an iranian engineer working inside the plant doing maintenance work. he goes home, plugs into the internet and it propagates around the world. suddenly everyone-- including the iranians-- realized that this was a cyber code attack so the iranians maybe for the first few years thought their equipment was just failing. they had bought pretty bad design now they realized the truth. >> pelley:. >> brown: when you put this into the drone attacks, how much debate was in there in the white house? debate over the effectiveness of this thing? because when you write about it, this makes it so interesting, this was was... with cyber weaponry it's like the early

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it would be bedlam in both cases tomorrow. >> suarez:. >> brown: you said germany is the heavy favoriteho do you think will win? >> i think the germans will win. you know, soccer is a game, you play for 90 minutes, you look up at the scoreboard and the germans have won. i think that's the way it will be tomorrow, too. i think the germans will win this one. >> suarez:. >> brown: what about the whole thing? do you want to go out on a limb with the whole tournament? >> i'm already on record with espn saying germany will win the tournament. they were my favorites coming in i haven't seen anything to change my mind. if you're watching the game tomorrow, watch for a man called swinesteiger. he dominates for germany and if you have an interest in the game watch for swinesteiger and you will see something very special. >> brown: the german powerhouse on and off the field. tommy smith of espn, thanks so much. >> thank you very much. >> suarez: again, the major developments of this day. a pennsylvania jury began deliberating the fate of former penn state football coach jerry sandusky. a short tim

-- chris brown you got to look out for drake. later in this broadcast. >>> new tonight, you may not have noticed but facebook changed your contact information. instead of the address you designated it shows a new address that ends with facebook.com. that allows you to communicate with other outside clients. they are looking to make it consistent across the site but if you don't like the change you are free to reset your information back to the way it was. >> reporter: the man accused of murdering 7 people was back in court today. in addition to the 7 murder charnels, one goh is also facing three attempted murder charnels. he is accused of shooting at oikos university last april. administrators say he was upset about a tuition dispute. he confessed to being the shooter but pleaded not guilty. >>> governor jerry brown is promoting a plan to keep college tuition costs from going up. it is contingent on voters approving a tax increase. if that happens university of california and california state university would get $125 million eac