. >> there was no new ground broken and no mistakes made and both candidates governor quinn and brownerwere at their old selves before the tribune editorial board but as appearing before a big newspaper board like the chicago tribune is important for a candidate because if they receive the endorsement it can mean several thousand votes. governor quinn and his running mate power and republican all sat on one side of the table across from the tribune editorial seasoned reporters who fired off a bunch of questions designed to learn more about the respective positions of each candidate and walt both quinn and browner have made their platforms known tribune reporters wanted to know specifics about many different areas and this brought about some spirited almost angry debates between the two candidates. here is an example when governor quinn called him >> you made a fortune off the misfortune of vulnerable human beings and workers and consumers and will not take responsibility. >> if federal judge >> why were we not ever attacked? we were not. use it to clean up corruption in 2010. >> that wa

lot of folks have said the future of america, the demographic changes profound and were becoming a browner nation, if you will. we can is a good way of texas and the country or the way of california. and you talk about this little bit in your book, doing an analysis of latinas are hispanics in mexico versus california. let's talk about that. >> guest: i completely agree. i devoted a chapter to this because i think it accurate shows -- california's leading jobs or californian has i believe one-third of welfare recipients in the country. one-third of welfare expenditures. >> host: as their only what, less than 50% of the population? >> guest: yes. texas hispanics to a lot better in a number of statistics data to in my book, "a race for the future," and to california hispanics. in one of those particular areas what is most important is education. and that is the gap between non-hispanic whites and hispanics. hispanics, the gap is is a lot smaller, lots more in taxes than it is in california. telephony has the third highest in the nation. >> host: why is that? is it because it's a social welfa

a lot of folks say that the future of america, the demographic changes we are becoming a browner nature if you will -- nation if you own some folks have put it we can either go the way of texas as a country are the way of california. you talk about this a little bit in your book. latinos and hispanics in mexico, talk about it. >> guest: i completely agree. i wrote a chapter on this because i think it actually shows california is bringing jobs. california believe has one third of the welfare recipients in the whole country or one third of welfare expenditures. >> host: wow. less than 15% of population. >> guest: less than 15% of the population. texas hispanics do a lot better in a number of statistics that i talked about in my book "a race for the future" been to california and hispanics. one particular area and to me one of the most is important which is education and that is the racial gap between non-hispanic whites and hispanics. hispanics, the gap is a lot smaller, a lot smaller in texas than it is in california. but california has the third-highest in the nation. >> host: why is ba

. >> in part because america itself is blacker and browner than it once was.ch as network tv is finally noticing there are black people, in the sense of finally coming along. the other part of television now streaming on our devices is very different. i want play a moment of "transparent" and ask you about this. >> dad is a woman. >> are you saying you're going to dress like a woman all the time. >> honey, my whole life i have been dressing up like a man. this is me. >> so transparent is going to push us to manage and talk about and think about transcommunities in a new way. this is a far edgier and deeply compelling television. >> yes, i think "orange is the new black" opened the door to talk about this. and it's important for a company like amazon prime because it is unlike anything on tv and i think it is the best show of the fall. you're not going to see these characters anywhere else on tv. >> when you say that, i remember when fox first -- i remember when fox first came to air, it had a lot of the diversity shows on it. and then it shifted overtime, but