both you and bruce babbot and other democrats seeking the nomination have made much of the fact you balanced state government budgets and administered the state in a way that claimed. i had lunch like this in a setting with paul simon. he seemed to ridicule that notion. what he said was kind of said the budgets, the combined state budgets of arizona and massachusetts would keep the pentagon running for about three days. the point is this was much bigger and the budget things are so much larger than that of a medium sized state. i'd like you to respond. >> the principal is the same. you make tough choices. do you provide the kind of executive leadership that you have to provide in these circumstances. i've gone through the last three weeks in which i've been putting my tenth executive budget together. there may be fewer zeroes on the end of the number. i had to confront the fact that my top budget guy had come to me and said sorry. i don't know what that would work out to at the national level. it's significant. i've had to go back to the drawing board. i'll have to say no to a lot of people,