. >> bruce bartlett, you've been involved in the conservative movement for a long time and worked with republican presidents. what do you think of fernand's idea here, and it's not just fernand saying this. we're starting to hear maybe what trump wants is not the white house, but the angered and disgruntled base that he's built to go ahead and lose and then come to him and some sort of future media endeavor. do you think that's what he's doing, or do you think he's trying to be president? >> he's absolutely given up on being president. the appointment of steve bannon is a certainty of that, but i think there's another thing here, as well. i think he wants to not be embarrassed on election day. i think he's going to have to spend a lot of time in red states that should be in his pocket. i mean, he was in louisiana just this week. now, no republican should have to spend one minute in the state of louisiana to carry that state. so he's having to shore up red states that most republican candidates, romney, mccain, they had in their pocket on day one. he's fighting in places like utah, the

. >> i'm bruce bartlett. i guess i'm a citizen journalist now. i was the editor and publisher, coeditor oh publisher cofounder -my wife was hit and she's the other. for more than 50 years. i just like to say that whenever you get the guardian and jim lazarus on the same side, you must have a hell of a candidates. i don't see there should be any objection to the man of this kind of expansive background and backing to you should endorse him and endorse him strongly. i just want to make a very key point. i said i been covering and directing political coverage in san francisco for many years. i have never come across a politician or an attorney who is more qualified to serve in this particular job. this is uniquely particular job than kopp. i give you one reason among others. when mr. kopp was in the senate he was there for eight years. he was the go to guy for the california public association and their endless battles ferocious battles, with the secrecy lobby and in favorable government. that's who they went to first and that's why she could talk t

interest and that's where you see a kind of interesting cohort of people like andrew sullivan, bruce bartlett, connor and others have moved from the left to the right in reaction to a lot of the actions of the bush administration and the war in iraq and afghanistan. that is the point of a lot of these movements and also these kind of stories like the ones i tell happening in reaction to a kind of big political movement or moment in which one side or the other is ascendant and maybe from people's perspective goes to access so the big left to right movement that i deal with at least some sort of after the 30s and response to all the left-wing energy of the 1930s and the interest in communism and then also in reaction to the 1960s to the blac black feminism and rights and so i think that the reason that we are seeing more right to left recently is because that big movement and i would certainly say the exodus has been a right-wing access and there's been a reaction to that. i would guess now we seem to be in a momen the moment that boths are kind of have a lot of energy and illogical passion. i

interest and that's where you see a kind of interesting cohort of people like andrew sullivan, bruce bartlett, connor and others have moved from the left to the right in reaction to a lot of the actions of the bush administration and the war in iraq and afghanistan. that is the point of a lot of these movements and also these kind of stories like the ones i tell happening in reaction to a kind of big political movement or moment in which one side or the other is ascendant and maybe from people's perspective goes to access so the big left to right movement that i deal with at least some sort of after the 30s and response to all the left-wing energy of the 1930s and the interest in communism and then also in reaction to the 1960s to the blac black feminism and rights and so i think that the reason that we are seeing more right to left recently is because that big movement and i would certainly say the exodus has been a right-wing access and there's been a reaction to that. i would guess now we seem to be in a momen the moment that boths are kind of have a lot of energy and illogical passion. i

bruce bartlett, who wrote a lot of the reagan tax cut plan, he really laid out why you cannot attach bush -- those reagan tax cuts and compare them to what donald trump is talking about. >> why not? >> because reagan cut taxes from 70% to 50% and then to 28.5%. we're talking about going from 39.6%, which is our highest rate, to 33%. there's a lot of other things going on in the american economy at the time. so the smarter comparison that voters should be thinking about is to compare america's economic performance in the last nine or 15 years to how other countries have done and comparing today to then is a losing argument. >> i have to leave it there. so much more i want to ask you about. maybe tomorrow we can talk about the new polls that have come out showing who the trump voters are and who they aren't because they are surprises as well. >> very surprising. >> thank you, ali velshi, as always, and cristina alesci. >>> we're going to bring you hillary clinton's economic speech as soon as the mikes get fired up. we'll bring it to you live. make sure you stay with us. live shot from

omarosa, rick tyler, political analyst, and bruce bartlett. thank you all for being here. i want to start with where john hardwood left off, maybe ivanka, that has really influence over this candidate. newt gingrich on fox business on wednesday commented about the campaign. remember, newt gingrich is a close donald trump insider. he is somebody who was considered for his vp. this is what newt gingrich had to say about donald trump this past week. >> i think somewhat of trump has done is very self-destructive. i don't know if it is a fixable problem, but i think it is a very big moment for trump. he has got to find a way to slow down really learn some new lessons. this is like the apprentice, except he is the apprentice, not the boss. >> with that, i go right to the former apprentice contestant, o omarosa. you've interacted with donald trump before he ran for president. he is in his 70s. he is not capable of changing who he is. are the problems we've seen last week fixable? >> well, first of all, joy, let's remember that every single month of this campaign, someone is tryin

times," "the new york bruce bartlett wrote this op-ed.was an advisor in the ronald reagan and bush administrations. he wrote, "tax rates were very high when reagan proposed cutting them, much higher than today. from thetax rates world war ii era had been only by john f. kennedy. the rate above 50% were not bringing in much revenue because wealthy people were likely to invest in tax shelters. playede te reagan tax cut .nly a secondary role there is far more evidence in the last 35 years that tax increases to more to stimulate growth than tax cuts." let's go to california, john is on the line. good morning to you. caller: good morning. first of all, i would like to congratulate c-span for their coverage of the conventions. hearing the entire speeches is so important over the tax bite. i think that was really a good thing for c-span. on donald trump, i think he is following president obama who is a great orator, young, handsome. trump is bombastic and older. the messenger is different. if you look at his message over all, especially on taxes