last were at our hearing week, where bruce bartlett spoke, bruce bartlett being an advocate of supply side economics, partner with jack kemp in that regard. he said, let me see, i may have exactly what his words are. -- i ically said that don't know i don't have his used a ds here but he little profanity, maybe that's why it's not here. he said this whole supply side dynamic scoring pay for itself, it's just not true, nonsense, b.s. complete and total nonsense. it just doesn't happen. it never has. supply side has its own justification but it doesn't pay for itself. fighting -- we will be on the other side of that, weave better deal, our budget is a better deal, better jobs, better pay, better future for america's families, lowering the cost of living for america's working families, equiping them with the tools so that they and their families have a place in the economy in the 21st century. and we are fighting for that better deal right now. on another subject yesterday, mr. hoyer and i visited fema headquarters for a status update on relief efforts after hurricane maria. i want to th

no less a figure than bruce bartlett who works for congressman jack, a real supporter of supply-side economics, and as was said, supply-side turned into trickle-down, etc. as a proponent of supply-side economics he said, we never said it would pay for itself. e just advocated an economic approach. but anyone who says, and this is his quote, that as a whole supply-side dynamic scoring pays for itself -- part of this argument -- is all nonsense. it's not true. he went on to say that it was -- you finish the -- bull -- you finish the sentence. so here we are at a place where we can increase the deficit, decrease job creation, hurt the middle class, benefit the top 1% , add to the deficit -- the national debt in historic proportions that would be very hard to come back from, deficit hawks, if any of you exist over there. instead we have an opportunity today for a better deal for the american people. etter jobs, better pay, better wages, better future. where we lower costs for america's working families and middle class families and where we prepare them with the tools for the economy of

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bruce bartlett, who was one of the orchestrators of the supply-side economics said -- we never said it paid for itself. anyone that ever says it does, it's not true, it's nonsense. he went further to call it b.s. as i said, it ran sacks medicare and medicaid, adding tax breaks to corporations and the millionaires. looting the middle class. shaking down the middle class. ripping off the middle class. increasing the sackses of the middle class. so it devastates vital investments, as our distinguished ranking member said, good paying jobs, higher wages for working families, education of our children, health of our working families. it really is a good example of what they say that medicare should wither on the vine in keeping with their trickle down economics, medicare should wither on the vine because it will take -- half a trillion dollars from medicare in their budget that will follow. so republicans will harm veterans, rural america, seniors in children, again, all in the name of fast tracking trillion-dollar tax breaks for the wealthiest 1%. 80%. what more do you need to know? 80% go

take it from bruce bartlett, who was part of the supply side economics. if anyone tells you the tax cuts will cover the increase in debt it's not true. it's nonsense and b.s., except he said the word, which i will not go into here, but you know what i mean. in any event, it is again, the budget they creep -- created is not a statement of our values. it's not a statement of values. i commend our colleagues for their great leadership and members of the committees that worked so hard on all of this. we want to go to the table, put ropes in the table. what creates growth creates good paying jobs, to reduce the deficit. that ain't here. but it could be in a bipartisan way. thank you, all very much. now to you. sorry. i wasn't fully listening because it wasn't on subject. >> reality to the stories that the d.n.c. had a role in funding this dossier. did you have any personal knowledge? >> no. >> does it give ammunition to the president's claims that this is all somehow politically motivated? >> first of all, no, i had no knowledge of it, except i saw it on tv an

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take it from bruce bartlett who was part of the whole supply side economics with kemp. it doesn't happen. if anybody tells you that tax cut also cover the increase in the debt, it is not true. it is nonsense and b.s. except he said the words which i won't go into here, but you know what i mean. in any event, the budget they created is not a statement of they lues, the inequality create with their tax pan is not a statement of values either. i commend our colleagues for their great leadership and the members of their committees that worked so hard on this and really we want to go to the table in a bipartisan way. put growth in the middle of the table. what creates growth? good paying jobs to reduce the deficit. that ain't here but it could be in a bipartisan way. thank you all very much. sorry, i wasn't fully listening because i wasn't on the subject. >> had a role in funding this. did you have any personal knowledge of this? does this give ammunition to the president's claims this is all somehow politically a campaign against him? >> first of all i had no knowledge of i

. >> joining me is bruce bartlett, author of the new book, truth matters. t's really great to talk to you. your new book, which i have been reading through, it tries to disseminate for people sort of how to sort of protect yourself from fake news. but you also do talk about the fact that there are two silos of information, the conservative silo where they're getting their media from one place and everyone else getting their media from another. >> i don't think they want to be protected, unfortunately. you've got a huge number of people in this country who get virtually all of their news from fox where they listen only to talk radio where you really only hearing the right wing point of view from rush limbaugh or sean hannity. if they're looking on the internet, they're reading the drudge report or breitbart. they're in closed loop where they never hear many facts. they hear lies. and so when they hear the same lie over and over again, we know this is called the big lie technique that joseph gerbills invented back in the 1930s. unfortunately it works. >> peopl

joining us, bruce bartlett, he's the author of new book "the truth matters" and also with us is david k. johnston, the author of "the making of donald trump." bruce, we watched something no other president has done. takes a possible, important moving part of a tax bill and we know this part might just move right out of the bill and get thrown away but if it does we'll get something in return. he does it in the driveway with reporters. >> well, plus, i don't think he really has any clue as to what he's talking about. >> there's that, too. >> i seriously doubt he tells you what the 401(k) limit is, contribution limit is, the rules for putting money in or taking it out. he's grossly ignorant about all of these things. his own tax accountant has said he doesn't understand anything about taxes and any -- and then big deals, some of which as you know saved him millions of millions of dollars of taxes not motivated by tax considerations at all. the accountant out in the little office in queens figured this stuff out but it's right. just as a matter of negotiating strategy, what he is doing i

back with me political analyst carl bernstein and joining us is bruce bartlett, the author of the brandook "the truth matters, a citizens guide to sorting facts from lies." how do we avoid splintering into two separate americas in two alternate realities? >> i think that's already the case. what i found interesting in your introduction here is how a completely made-up story, something that's totally out of whole cloth forces its way onto a place like cnn simply because the right wing propaganda channel which is fox made it a story and they talked about it so much, you felt you couldn't ignore it even though it's complete nonsense, completely baseless, you had to report that it's something that is being discussed among the trump supporters and thereby lend inadvertently credibility to this nonsensical story. >> you can be critical here. do you think it's a mistake for me to explain what's being heard in right wing media? >> no. but there has to be a better way of doing it to discount the fact that fox is really just an arm of the republican party and should not be given the respect that

listen to what ronald reagan's domestic policy advisor bruce bartlett said. he said virtually what every republican said about staksz lie. reagan's omb director said the idea that closing loopholes and adding growth will pay for termina trillionions is irresponsible. the people in the reagan administration understand that when you give huge tax breaks to very, very wealthy people, the loss of revenue does not -- is not made up by economic growth. it's a fraudulent theory developed by the wealthy people. just coit i happen to believe if you want to really get the economy moving, you rise the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. provide targeted tax breaks to skmaub small businesses and working people. rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, create jobs. when you make public colleges and universities tuition free, millions of people will have the opportunity to go out and get the decent-paying jobs that are being created today that today they can't get. and when we do what every other major country on earth does, and finally acknowledge that health care is a right o

we have bruce bartlett. he worked as a senior policy analyst for the reagan administration.nks for being here. >> thank you. >> you were one of the brains behind the reagan tax cuts, and you are saying the republicans have been relying on that model for all of these decades and you now believe -- correct me if i am wrong, the idea that tax cuts will always suppur growth is a myth? >> yeah, it's economics. you have to see what is appropriate under these particular circumstances. >> why do you think it worked with reagan and not so well now? >> who says it worked so well? >> the growth was uneven. you had a bigger growth before the rich and the middle class, so where was the success? >> there were other things going on besides cutting taxes, and you had slashed interest rates, and the defense build up, which hardly anybody talks about, but that was a powerful spur to economic growth. the tax cut was just one of many elements, and yet in the decade of the 1980s, overall growth was less than in the 1970s, or 1990s, after taxes were increased. >> bill clinton raised taxes and gro

even bruce bartlett, the author omics" saying that tax cuts pay for themselves is nonsense. he actually said bull, which is half of what he said, but you get the idea. so this is not easy. nd we can speak and in the darkest terms how we're imposing this debt on our grandchildren and try to use emotional arguments, but the fact is we're dealing with a very realistic, pragmatic dilemma and that is how to do what the american people expect us to do without making the future impossible. t's not done by the republican budgets. we think it's helped along by the democratic alternative, and we look forward to having that debate just a little bit later this morning. so with that, mr. chairman, i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from california. mr. mcclintock: i would remind my friend from kentucky that ronald reagan reduced the federal income tax rate from 70% down to 28% and income tax revenues doubled. he's correct we expect things from our government. we've seen a 49% increase in spending in the last decade. have we seen a 49% increase in the quality of ed

at the end of my remarks called, i helped create the gop tax mess: trump is wrong" written by bruce bartlett, executive advisor to ronald reagan, who talks about this as "gop tax mythology. and says that rushing through a tax measure the same way republicans tried and failed to do health care reform should be rejected. he was one of the drafters of the budget act. he testified before this committee in 2009. the reconciliation process was designed to facilitate legislation to reduce deficits. chairman conrad took that view also. he adopted the rule that reconciliation measures must reduce the deficit. republicans read the -- repealed the conrad rule as soon as they were in power. now, here we are, passing a budget that is not a budget, with the sole purpose to line up a partisan runway for debt to -- deficit financed tax cuts for the wealthy. mr. chairman, we can do better. instead of using the budget committee to circumvent the regular order of the senate, which is our sole remaining purpose as i can determine we , should use it as a four room for real bipartisan debate on our nation's fisca

end of my remarks called, i hope -- called " i helped create the gop tax written by is wrong" bruce bartlett, executive advisor to ronald reagan, who talks about this as "gop tax mythology. for public and try to do -- republicans, what they tried to do should be rejected.'" senator robert c byrd was one of -- a late senator was a drafter of this act, he testified before this committee in 2009. the reconciliation process was designed to facilitate .egislation to reduce deficits chairman conrad took that you rule and he adopted the reconciliation measures must reduce the deficit. this was revealed as soon as they were empowered. now, here we are, passing a budget that is not a budget, with the sole purpose reconcilis must reduce the deficit. to line up for debt tounway finance tax cuts for the wealthy . mr. chairman, we can do better. instead of using the budget committee to circumvent the regular orchard of the senate -- the regular order of our senate, we should use it as a four room for real bipartisan debate on our nations fiscal health, including how to address our $20 trillion national d

bruce bartlett, the man who td "reaganomics" congressast week that now thinks it's bu. we, that's half of the word he used but you get the idea. the historicarord is clear. we went through this in the early 1980's, the early000's r george w. bush,nd we recently saw it play out to disastrous effect inansas. now congressionalepublicans want try it again. well know the truth. that tax cuts in this plan will inease deficits and debt by proxitely $2.4 trillion in the first 10 years alone and trillions min the years after. thisudget will blow enormous holein the federal budget which brings me to the second part of the republican deception. when the growth fails to happen as promised and these tax cuts keep digging our economy down deeper and deeper, republicans will bemoan the horrors of deficits and debt. these cries will lead us to the third and final part of the plan. they will call for -- ressional action, not to for the wealthy, but to drastic programs that people need, education, health care, research, infrastructure and veterans' benefits are already threatened in this

written by bruce bartlett, domestic policy adviser to president ronald reagan, who talks about this as gop tax mythology, and says that rushing through a half-baked tax plan in the same manner republicans tried and failed to do with health care reform should be rejected out of hand. the late senator robert c. bird was one of the drafters of the 1974 budget act. he testified before this committee in 2009. the reconciliation process was designed to facilitate legislation to reduce deficits. chairman conrad took that view also. and he adopted a rule that reconciliation measures must reduce the deficit. republicans repealed the conrad rule as soon as they were in power. and now here we are, passing a budget that is not a budget, with the sole purpose to line up a partisan runway for deficit finance tax cuts for the wealthy. mr. chairman, we can do better. instead of using the budget committee to circumvent the regular order of the senate, which is our sole remaining purpose, as i can determine right now, we should use it as the forum for real bipartisan debate on our nation's fiscal health

bruce bartlett, who was one of the orchestrators of the supply-side economics said -- we never said it paid for itself. anyone that ever says it does, it's not true, it's nonsense. he went further to call it b.s. as i said, it ran sacks medicare and medicaid, adding tax breaks to corporations and the millionaires. looting the middle class. shaking down the middle class. ripping off the middle class. increasing the sackses of the middle class. so it devastates vital investments, as our distinguished ranking member said, good paying jobs, higher wages for working families, education of our children, health of our working families. it really is a good example of what they say that medicare should wither on the vine in keeping with their trickle down economics, medicare should wither on the vine because it will take -- half a trillion dollars from medicare in their budget that will follow. so republicans will harm veterans, rural america, seniors in children, again, all in the name of fast tracking trillion-dollar tax breaks for the wealthiest 1%. 80%. what more do you need to know? 80% go