also spoke to bruce hamilton, the president of amalgamated transit union local 1700.tu is here to express the point of view there is an alternative point of view in the u.s. labor and the point of view that really supports a real [indiscernible] reduces emissions. >> what is your position on keystone xl? >> the a was the first uniontu to oppose the xl pipeline back in 2011. since then, some other unions have joined us, which is very good. the national nurses union, twu, some with the cwa, and a lot of locals another unions have come into the fight against further expansion of dirty oil. >> and why? >> the primary reason is to save humanity on the planet. we also believe labor has a responsibility to really lead the transition to a low carbon to know carbon economy -- no carbon economy. if we don't, some kind of transition is going be made by big business and it will be very detriment to working people. >> talk about the kinds of workers he represented. >> atu represents most of the transit workers across north america -- but strivers, train operators in transit, bus c