care and doing things like birds banner -- and the deck of the he liocarrier doing things like an bruce jenner tavis: you keep leading me down those one of about of conversation. -- this wonderful path of conversation. i've got myself in trouble many times on this program doing that. but i'm going to follow you anyway. you said something a moment ago that i've heard expressed by women on this program over the years. maybe i have -- i do not recall -- heard that kind of sentiment expressed by a man. and more accurately, a white man. which is "at this age" it does not tend to happen this way. i've heard women say that you get to a certain age and it is hard to find higher quality roles, roles that have been expanded instead of front. -- instead of shrinking. tell me what you meant by that. >> i think that is absolutely true of women, and it is strange. i guess, as a white male who looks like he might be a federal agent of some kind, there will always be a certain amount of opportunity. tavis: it is the glasses. >> i get to work in a suit a lot. when i got the script for this movie and i was -- t

. >> bruce jenner is the only person on the entire show who has done something. >> bill: olympic. >>ace. the irony is he is the only one who really had traditional values on the show. that's the irony of the whole thing. let's face reality since it is reality show. they are the masters of public relations. they donald trump on being the master of public relations. >> shepard: janine, what does it say about american culture when these people would w. no discernible talent are awarded to the tune of $40 million? >> no discernible talent it starts with kim kardashian, she can't sing, she can't dance, she can't act. she starts out with a sex tape. her father was a famous lawyer. it turns out that she had a sex tape and at the end of the day she is good friends with paris hilton. so then she moves up the ladder and she -- everyone out. i think americans like to look at beautiful people. they like to look at luxurious homes and cars and lifestyles. >> bill: there are a lot of beautiful people that don't make it in show business. don't you have to behave in a certain way. >> intelligence, e

meeting bruce jenner and the mom. what's going on?r weekend of endless dates, paparazzi friendly dates. of course. and then he went out to dinner with kim, her mother, kris jenner, khloe and lamar. and of course you know, they met the parents. except he had met them before. he's known them for a long time. even just last night khloe was on andy cohen's show and she said, well, i met him before. but it was the first time since this sort of dating hoopla that they all -- >> what's the real story? are they dating or is it something for the press? >> well, it is probably the only guy she could date that could get even more press than her previous wedding. except i do think it is real. it had been rumored for quite a long time that kanye had been after her. amber rose had hinted about it, too, his ex. so it does seem pretty genuine. >> all right. we have a wedding. neil diamond married his manager. he's 71 and she's 42. and this makes for -- congrats to him, by the way. >> yeah. >> how many marriages is this for him? >> this is his third m

. >> her stepdad, bruce jenner. he says he's not that excited about the couple.anye. rather, with kim jumping quickly into a serious relationship, again. her divorce with kris humphries isn't even finalized yet. >> not yet? >> no. >> on the rebound. >> that was fast. >>> so, okay. we've been talking about "the hunger games." and it seems to be the new "twilight." not just at the box office. the movie is inspiring a new trend in, get this, baby names. bianna didn't jump on that one. >> no. >> no. >> you know, all the jacobs and isabellas we saw last year. >> she did name her baby jake. >> oh. she's a "twi." >> yes. >> don't expect your kids to have a katniss in their class. according to the website nameberry, the hottest for baby names is rue, the girl that befriends katniss in the arena. the boys name doesn't go to the hunky peeta or gale. but rather cato. >> surprised that rue is getting the name. she's cute, though. >> she is cute. that's your "pop news." >> rachel, thank you. it's a pleasure to have you in new york. >>> and we will be right back. [ female anno

. >> bruce jenner is the only person on the entire show who has done something. >> bill: olympic. >> irony is he is the only one who really had traditional values on the show. that's the irony of the whole thing. let's face reality since it is reality show. they are the masters of public relations. they donald trump on being the master of public relations. >> shepard: janine, what does it say about american culture when these people would w. no discernible talent are awarded to the tune of $40 million? >> no discernible talent it starts with kim kardashian, she can't sing, she can't dance, she can't act. she starts out with a sex tape. her father was a famous lawyer. it turns out that she had a sex tape and at the end of the day she is good friends with paris hilton. so then she moves up the ladder and she -- everyone out. i think americans like to look at beautiful people. they like to look at luxurious homes and cars and lifestyles. >> bill: there are a lot of beautiful people that don't make it in show business. don't you have to behave in a certain way. >> intelligence, excellenc

so i just went with what i loved >> brian: except for bruce jenner. >> yeah. >> brian: i know the rumorsine. what about the other rumors? i saw on friday, i'm probably the last to know, kanye west and kim are dating. >> he has a k. >> brian: that's what i'm thinking! >> i think they're friends. >> steve: is this just a publicity stunt? that's what some of the gossip pages are saying? >> they say it all. they're definitely friends and been friends -- >> steve: are they more than just friends? >> brian: because he wrote a song with her relationship in it. >> i haven't heard the song, but i read on-line. i saw -- sing it. i want to hear it. >> gretchen: maybe it's just for publicity maybe for his song? >> i don't know. oh, to have that in there? i don't think so. who knows. >> steve: so there they are last week. can you stick around? >> yeah. >> steve: we've got a little more show to go. if you got a question for her, e-mail us right now. we got a little more time to ask her some of your questions we'll be right back. >> gretchen: we said we had questions from our viewers. one says, will yo

kanye west meeting bruce jenner and the mom?ther chris jenner, khloe and lamar. of course they met the parents except he had met them before. even last know khloe was on andy cohen's show and said well, i had met him before but it was the sort of first time since this dating. >> what's the real story? is this something for the press or are they dating? >> it is probably the only guy she could date that could get even more press than her previous wedding. except i do think it is real. it had been rumored for quite a long time that kanye had been after her. amber rose had hinted about it, too, his ex. it does seem pretty genuine. >> we had a wedding. neil diamond married his manager. he's 71 and she's 42. congrats to him, by the way. how many marriages is this for him? >> this is his third marriage, it is her first. >> that's pretty much a wrap on that. >>> let me ask you about jessica simpson. i have complete sympathy for this. it does feel like she's been pregnant for like three years. >> some of it is that she -- everybody keep