so bruce ohr -- the situation with bruce ohr being tied to chris steele even after he's removed could be a perfect point if you're trying to understand why the four senators authored the letters to a.g. sessions and rod rosenstein for the special counsel to assist the i.g. >> harris: and to put a finer point on this, what you're saying, bruce ohr is still talking to the british spy after the british spy was told you're done. they're still have ago conversation. senators grassley, graham among the four telling bret baier last night that there could be criminal behavior. what do you make of that? >> i believe that there was. i believe there was misconduct as relates to how -- >> harris: criminal misconduct. >> at the very least, as generous and call it misconduct. but that's why you need to have an investigation. as you see in the letter that these four senators authored, they had over 30 questions to the i.g.. you need a special counsel to assist the i.g. in that effort because if there is anything more than just a procedure that needs to get involved, i'm highly skeptical that giving

i think between peter strzok, leamg, bruce ohr and andy mccabe, there needs to be the question askedir office? were they using their office. were they using it for partisan purposes? absolutely the question needs to be asked. i'm just personally not privy to information say should be fired. i guarantee alarm bells have gone off from all of us to say why were these people so involved with politics? i wrote a letter to the fbi director a week or two ago. and i asked can these people still search a database, can peter strzok, lisa page, bruce ohr can they still search a database to snoop on us maybe for political reasons for a warrant. i haven't gotten answer back. >> harris: that is disturb going they can still search a database. is he set to retire on sunday. we were trying to figure out what daily duties have been. more importantly you point out something different. >> yeah, bruce ohr his wife worked for the opposition research group that hired a british spy, was paid for by hillary clinton. should bruce ohr be able to search republican donors, republican officials and look at all of

few months ago that oh, it wasn't just the fbi but it was also the justice department again namely bruce ohrt just the fbi and justice department but it was also the state department knew about the dossier and had some impact there and then sort of raises the obvious question, well if it was the fbi, the justice department and the state department, did the white house also know in 2016 about the dossier before it was taken to the fisa court and was the basis for securing a warrant? that's a pretty important, we don't know for sure but lots of things start to point in that direction, so that's something that has to be investigated. david: that's an extraordinarily important question and once again shayla murray the former advisor to both vice president biden and president obama but for her husband to have been working for fusion gps it's kind of hard to believe she didn't know something about what was going on. >> yeah, exactly. david: we got to leave it at that congressman jordan thank you so much for coming in. >> thanks david take care. david: well some members of the mainstream media trea

details of the role of the anti-trump dossier and how it played into the campaign and how demoted bruce ohrife were involved. nellie ohr worked on opposition for fusion gps which was passed on to the fbi. once again, the deep state justice department is covering up evidence, misconduct, targeting president trump. it needs to come clean about the scandal and turn over the documents as federal law requires. let's bring in the power capable. i know they have some opinions. back from "outnumbered," josh homes. michael starr hopkins, democratic strategist. josh, i'll start with you. >> yeah. i think it's extremely important topic. we talked a little bit about this last hour. the importance of this i.g. investigation happening at the department of justice, which is not only going to get into the who, what, why, when and where where this investigation has gone into the clinton and trump collusion, but the internal process at doj. my guess is the lawsuits were necessary because doj was holding the documents to comply with that internal investigation. so i think we're close to getting the answers he

and it seemed that way for some time when you look at the ohrs, bruce and nellie ohr. now you are starting to see rod rosenstein, you saw him involved from uranium one all the way through everything. so this is the gift that keeps gig so to speak and not in a good way, that we are seeing more and more. and to see this couple, mr. cunning and miss murray. their relationship, and yet here we see this connection with fusion gps right on into the white house. gregg: isn't it interesting, glenn simpson gps's testimony under oath. he didn't disclose that information. he didn't disclose nellie ohr or disclose the biden connection as well. you are a lawyer. you know that deceiving a court, concealing evidence, is arguably a variety of of crimes. i can think of six different felony statutes that are violated. abuse of power. obstruction of justice. perjury. do you think that crimes may well have been committed that merit a criminal investigation? >> absolutely yes. i mean the bottom line is this should have been a criminal investigation ongoing. now we are hearing the a.g. is g

could that be loretta lynch, bruce ohr? my questions for you what is the view of the trump campaign tonight about how vast this investigation should be and whether other players may soon be taken down? >> the trump campaign is not weighing in yet. but someone that has been intimately involved in a lot of news cycles and watching many of my colleagues struggle and suffer throughout these atrocities committed by their own government against them. this ridiculous witch hunt that was triggered by many of these individuals that we're talking about today to silently overthrow the sitting president of the united states. it's time to get serious. they're absolutely should be a second special counsel. we have to keep reminding people that the only reason we have this counsel is because fired fbi director comey leaked to the media and wanted to pursue this. those running that counsel are absolutely all compromised in my opinion because of the relationship that they had with many of these individuals. >> katrina, those are strong word

so we have sought, all communications, records, contacts, emails, texts concerning bruce ohr, the numberr at justice. his wife, nellie ohr, fusion gps employee. david: reiterate, fusion gps was paid bit hillary campaign and the dnc and to get dirt on donald trump and they came up with that. go ahead. >> right. she is in the middle of that up to her neck. very senior justice department official bruce ohr and his wife who is working for people that are dreaming up this dossier and along with christopher steele and funneling money purportedly from hillary clinton and to steele's assets, using his sources arguably were co-opted by or actual agents of the russian government. you want to find coclusion, start there. david: it is clearly collusion, as ridiculous some of these reports in the trump dossier and unverified as james comey, still people support, a huge piece appeared in the "new yorker" magazine, 15,000 word piece by jane mahre, one of the people that fusion was dumping information from trump dossier to, trying to defend not only christopher steele, also glenn simpson, founder of fus

resigned including james baker, james rybicki, lawyer lisa page and mike kortan and justice official bruce ohr. our next guest is among those who called for a special counsel to investigate surveillance abuse and fbi-doj misconduct. joining us is congressman ron desantis. he's the leading republican candidate for the governmentship of florida. good to have you with us, congressman. let's begin, if we may, with a call for a second special counsel. how important is it for mccarthy and scalise to 0 add their voices to the call for a second special counsel. >> i applaud them for doing that. and u.s. senators like chuck grassley and lindsey graham. i would call on our speaker of the house paul ryan to follow their lead and call publicly for the appointment of a second special counsel. ryan was publicly supportive of special counsel mueller. well, by golly gee you have got to support a special counsel now because you have evidence statutes were violated. can mccabe lie to the fbi and not have anything happen? comey has exposure for saying he has never been involved in leak. mccabe contradicted him.

this is in capacious to bruce ohr and his wife nellie. this scandal is getting bigger and bigger by the day. it was revealed earlier this week that he has received some responses about the dossier from some top obama officials. others so far refusing to comply. and finally president trump's major win with north korea is sending the media into a hate-filled frenzy. we may have peace in the korean peninsula. this breaking news that the president is planning to meet with the dictator is now apparently aggravating and incensing the left. >> it's a roll of the nuclear dice. in some ways the president kind of got boxed in here. he couldn't say no to this invitation. >> i think the entire foreign policy community freaked out last night when they thought trump was going to get in a room with this guy with no conditions and just start talking. >> we just gave jong-un something for nothing. >> this is the president we have, and he said yes to north korea. >> but he's not sending $150 billion in cash and other occur -- currencies. and this point wou

with respect to hillary clinton and donald trump, you have got the abuse of the fisa warrant and bruce ohr. the number four at the justice department playing shell games. >> that's a pretty extraordinary set of circumstances to really get someone work on this full time as opposed to doing an internal review and having a prosecutor based in utah do a review. he's not doing a prosecution or investigation. he's monitoring the paperwork created by the i.g. gregg: it's cops investigating cops. the letter sessions sent to congress says huber is doing his work from outside d.c. with all the witnesses and documents in d.c. and you are stationed in utah. but he's still with the department of justice so he's conflicted, isn't he? >> he's not necessarily conflicted if there is a commitment by the justice department to provide him the resources and they are honest about what the investigations are. i would suggest on general sessions to the point they are investigating, they publicly disclose them. it's not like there are any great secrets about whether mr. mccabe lied or not. and they can't talk abou

it is called upon to investigate act of high officials from james comey to mccabe to people like bruce ohr . the other reason, there is evidence that federal statutes may have been violated. you look at christopher steel, whether he was honest with fbi, and jim comey leaked his memos, wok of which very likely included classified information. you take this start from hillary clinton investigation, take that through conclusion, and so fall russia investigation, all the way to appointment of mueller, yes, the fisa abuses are a big part of that. but i don't think it is exclusive to that. >> the only way too get at the truth, correct? but the problem with it is it stretches out over a long period of time, this is round the country's neck are in for a long time to come. >> issue is that sessions said he would appoint inspector general. the inspector general would work much slower than a actual special counsel, the inspector general does not have subpoena power, he could not bring in steel, or mccabe or comey. so, you would get it done quicker, then also, yes, there have been special counsels tha

. >> the number 4 person in the department of justice, bruce ohr's wife worked for fusion gps. he had dozens of contacts with mr. steele. the informant the fbi was using on the payroll of the democratic party. there's no way in the world he should have interacted with mr. steele because his wife worked for the same organization. so somebody other than the people in charge today needs to look at what they did yesterday. >> so as i listen back to senator grassley there, takes me back to a tweet by the president that said we're going to need investigators to investigate the investigators. >> when we look at the basis of a special counsel investigation, there's some kind of political consideration that would prevent the department of justice from doing what it normally does. it will be hard to think of a circumstance that more obviously calls for some additional outside process than looking at malfeasance in the doj itself. we've seen so much of it now where they put some sanctions in place, taken some action. clearly there's something wrong here at the top level. that's something

now, this is draws comparisons to demote a doj official bruce ohr and his wife nellie who worked on thatws dossier for fusion gps. other served as the national security advisor to biden. this scandal is getting bigger and bigger by the day. the house intel committee chairman devin nunes revealed earlier this week that he has received some responses about the dossier from some top obama officials. others so far refusing to comply. so, nunes is now threatening to issue subpoenas, which he should do. and finally, president trump's major win with north korea is sending the media into a hate-filled frenzy. the partisan press is absolutely going apoplectic over the fact that entrepreneurship's peace through strength approach dealing with little rocket man, kim jong un is now yielding positive results. we may have peace in the korean peninsula. this breaking news that the president is agreeing to meet with the north korean dictator to discuss denuclearization is now apparently aggravating and incensing liberal lap dog media people as they are physically incapable of reporting any positive news

investigators question whether there may be similarities to the case of justice department official bruce ohrho failed to disclose his contacts and worked with his wife, nellie ohr to compile the research that went into the dossier for fusion gps. a former national security adviser to the u.s. is also receiving a questionnaire. multiple attempts to reach murray were unsuccessful. harris? >> harris: that was a lot of information about how people intersect, catherine. >> there's so many data points that come back to fusion gps. it really begs further investigation. i'll leave it at that. >> harris: thanks so much. appreciate it. let's learn more. john whitbeck is a criminal law attorney and virginia gop chairman. great to have you on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> harris: we're going to talk about nunberg. but let's back up and talk about what catherine talked about. all the enter sections going to fusion gps. do we need to take another look at that company? >> yeah. i mean, clearly something there that we need to take a look at. the fact that the republican party is -- wants to look

namely bruce ohr. and then it was also the obama administration state department.ises another question. if the fbi now about it and the doj knew about it and the state department know about it, did the obama white house know about it as well? we don't know the answer there that's why the letter that devin sent to these 24 individuals, key people, you can guess who the likely suspects are, ben rose, susan rice, clapper, all of these keep people, did they know at the top levels of the white house about this dossier and did they know in the fbi took it to the fisa court. those are important questions and that's why we called for a second special counsel. >> trish: congressman, what if they did? >> then we need to find out and we need to know and the american people need to know and they need to be held to account if they took this opposition research document and knew that our fbi was taking to it a secret court to get a warrant to spy on a fellow american citizen. we don't if they did but that's what we have to find out. >> trish: so we might need to see another spec

you have bruce ohr whose wife is working at a place where they are subject of the investigation.xtraordinary circumstances galore. as jim jordan pointed out, what else does there need to be for someone to be appointed to investigate the fbi? you just can't investigate yourself. that is what they are asking john huber to do. i think it's unfair. >> shannon: i will keep it in the column for needs second special counsel. >> check that box for me. >> shannon: i know you are working on a much anticipated book about the deep state. do you think that's a legitimate problem here in these cases in washington now? >> i do. there is this bureaucracy that is so embedded. they know they can just wait out the politicians in my career oriented people and they don't want to scrutiny. that is why -- think about it. there have been subpoenas in place for information since september of 2016. that information has still not been made available. that alone should warrant a special prosecutor. that deep state, they don't want to be exposed. they don't want accountability and they will do everything the

. >> the number four pick orson -- number four person, bruce ohr's wife worked for fusion gps. the informant the fbi was using on the payroll of the democratic party, there is no in the world he should have interacted with mr. steele because his wife worked for the same organization. somebody other than the people in charge today need to look at what they did yesterday. >> bret: do you think andrew mccabe should be fired before he retires? >> i am not sure i want to make that judgment right now. >> bret: do you think it could happen? >> i have great respect for the office of professional responsibility, and they have found something grossly wrong. i'm not going to draw a line on what should be done about it. >> bret: something could happen. >> we have raised enough questions about him over a period of time and i suggest that he ought to be fired. >> the punishment for violating the law should be you lose your job. if he in fact did authorize fbi agents to talk to the media and lied about it. >> bret: seeing what you've seen, you think he did. >> i don't know. here's what i do k

now, this is draws comparisons to demote a doj official bruce ohr and his wife nellie who worked on thatws dossier for fusion gps. other served as the national security advisor to biden. this scandal is getting bigger and bigger by the day. the house intel committee chairman devin nunes revealed earlier this week that he has received some responses about the dossier from some top obama officials. others so far refusing to comply. so, nunes is now threatening to issue subpoenas, which he should do. and finally, president trump's major win with north korea is sending the media into a hate-filled frenzy. the partisan press is absolutely going apoplectic over the fact that entrepreneurship's peace through strength approach dealing with little rocket man, kim jong un is now yielding positive results. we may have peace in the korean peninsula. this breaking news that the president is agreeing to meet with the north korean dictator to discuss denuclearization is now apparently aggravating and incensing liberal lap dog media people as they are physically incapable of reporting any positive news

and was a political document to validate in the intelligence committee because fusion gps hired bruce ohr'sife with money from the democratic party, so there is evidence that indicates that there were people at the senior level, the department of justice and the fbi who steered hillary clinton away from trouble and then manifested their bias to work against president trump before and after his election. >> melissa: one of your colleagues trey gowdy had more reason. to listen the less. >> will change for me was the knowledge that there are two dozen witnesses which the inspector general would not have access to. so your options are doj investigators themselves, they cannot do that because of conflict of interest. let the inspector general to which, i am a big fan of mike horwitz, but he has no jurisdiction of a witness that was at the department or never work there. when i count up 24 witnesses that he would not be able to access where he too investigated, yes, only one conclusion, that a special counsel. >> it is very significant, melissa, eight months ago 120 members of congress called for

dossier, that aussie information was leaked to the press, christopher steel was involvedru with bruce ohrion gps. you put these together and he ultimately gets fired, christopher steel, because he leaked the information to the press. did they tell that to the court in the fisa warned? i suspect not. this goes to the point that you have a fisa court is very serious. foreign intelligence surveillance act. >> sean: this is the point. >> that is what the special counsel needs to be looking out. >> sean: the fisa law is very clear. fbi protocols are very clear. they have a legal, moral, ethical, even by their own standards, obligation to verify and corroborate any materials that are set before a fisa court. it seems to be there a lot of issues in play. m exoneration before investigation. months before. that is unheard of. secondly, -- the witnesses were given immunity in that situation. >> sean: the witnesses weren't n interviewed. as far as when that -- when a draft of the report, remember this. andrew mccabe said that they would not have seen the fisa warrant without the christopher steele d

e-mail to sally yates when she made her big point to resign in the early stages of the -- >> and bruce ohr still has a job. i did a greer with sol. it's a sad day for mccabe. a good day for the country that we're beginning to see some heads rolling over there. a lot of americans have lost respect for the fbi. that's a terrible thing. we should have respect for law enforcement. when they leak, they like, frame people, try to corrupt judges that is unacceptable. it's great that we're starting to see that be taken -- held responsible for that. >> laura: sol, about 20 seconds. >> and i hope we do it on a nonpano nonpartisan basis. >> and you're right. if somebody did something wrong, you have to be punished. >> thank you for all. what a phenomenal panel. thanks for rolling with the breaks news tonight. you have to love this quiet friday night on the trump era. ed henry in for shannon bream is up next. fox news will be covering every angle of this story. ♪ >> this is a fox news alert. attorney general jeff sessions has fired the former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe. mccabe going on the atta

that the individual, christopher steele, who put that dossier together, was involved with bruce ohr,epartment of justice wife as far as working she was working for fusion gps. you stuart putting these together and then, of course, he ultimately gets fired, chris steele, because he leaked the information to the press. now, did they tell that to the court in the fisa warrant? i suspect not. but, again, this goes to the point that you have a fisa courts are very serious. foreign intelligence surveillance act. you have to have procedures in place to protect the american people. that's what this special counsel needs to be looking at. >> sean: the fisa law is very clear. fbi protocols have very clear that they have legal, moral, ethical, even by their own standards, obligation to verify and corroborate any materials that are sent before a fisa court it seems to me there were a lot of issues at play here and exoneration before an investigation, months before. that is unheard of. secondly, if you have. >> witnesses were given immunity in that situation. >> sean: what happened to the compute

question whether there may be similarities to the case of former senior justice department official bruce ohr. he was demoted for failing to disclose his contacts with the former british spy who worked with ohr's wife nellie ohr on the right that compiled the research that went into the dossier. former advisor to biden collin call. there on the right next to susan rice said he hadn't received the house panel questions but would come back to fox news if he had any comment. multiple attempts to reach murray were unsuccessful, sandra. >> sandra: catherine marriage, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> sandra: for breaking that story all day for us. joining me now on set anthony scaramucci former white house communications director and founder of sky bridge capital. anthony, welcome. i haven't heard from you lately. >> i miss you u hopefully get me back on the couch for outnumbered. >> sandra: that would be good. you go through the details of catherine herridge's report you learn more bias behind this anti-trump dossier. what does all of this tell you? >> it's interesting it's being uncovered now no

the situation may have similarities to former justice department official bruce ohr and his wife nellie. questionnaire is also being sent to another official who worked in biden's office as a formal national security advisor. >> sandra: catherine herridge, thank you for all that this morning. see you later today. >> bill: sam nunberg had a 180. at one hour he said he's not talking, and by sundown he changed his mind. >> sandra: amazing that was just this week. >> bill: 11 past the hour now. reaction keeps pouring in after president trump agrees to meet with the north korean dictator kim jong un. we will talk about that a lot more with senator marco rubio. and there is this. >> he said he heard noises and props. he thinks there's a shooting going on at the school. >> sandra: newly released 911 call giving us a chilling glimpse inside the horror of the parkland school shooting, as we learned new details about the response from authorities in the throes of those first moments. >> bill: president trump and the vice president hitting the campaign trail for republicans. there's a big vote com

i want to begin if i may with your lawsuit seeking bruce and nelly ohr's records to figure out the relationshipscredited phoney trump dossier and fusion gps's relationship to all of this. >> the american public deserves the communications, the records, the messages, the texts between ohr, the number four guy at the justice department, the same guy who served as the conduit. he was the go-to guy to funnel that information to the justice department and was a personal contact of steel. of course, his wife nellie ohr was work apartment fusion gps as an employee. ohr is the very next us of this information -- is the nexus of this phoney information flow. we need to see who was communicating with and what was communicated. lou: it seems that the justice department and fbi would want to have those answers themselves and taking action. on its face it's highly irregular conduct. it's highly inappropriate again. yet justice department and the fbi have done nothing more than demote someone. this is deeply troubling in is no sign they are going to expedite a response to your lawsuit. how long do you expect

you have lisa page and bruce ohr. you look at gofundme page why do people are donating to that. mueller. they are praying they can find russian collusion, think can't imagine the boomerang is against them. now we're investigate the investigators. we heard attorney general sessions is not appointing a second counsels looking even more. when you lie four times you could be in serious trouble. ainsley: there are consequences with their actions. amazing all of america doesn't have a problem what he did. it was wrong no matter what side of politics you're on. >> if it was apolitical at top of fbi and d-ej. one thing the administration can do to restore the faith. todd: talking about these kinds of stories, talk about mccabe, the upper echelons, this is not the rank and fail. when i was on scene in austin last week, fbi all over the place, in concert with austin pd did unbelievable saves lives from idiot. thanks for doing your job. thanks for helping out so much. they couldn't have been nicer. they couldn't have been more gracious. we understand what their job is committed to do it. w

. >> bruce ohr. >> number three guy in the department of justice his wife works for fusion gps. >> exactly> back to the dossier, all roads lead back to the clinton campaign, as well as collusion with certain government institutions people that had high power. >> massive conflicts of interest shoddy data secret spying on u.s. citizens that is a terrible story, that should be getting more attention. maria: you know what this is leading to questions about the fisa court the question now is are they going to continue to fund the fisa court or do away with fisa court. >> just re-- the court. >> judge napolitano's issue information should have been released by congressman nunes before reauthorization of the fisa court he questions why -- he finds trouble in why he waited. >> there needs accountability that is the problem we are not seeing any -- no one is no one is being held accountable across the board. >> the bias top of the fbi andrew mccabe his wife 700,000 dollars, from a major democratic donor you know, there you go. and then we saw all these texts, between lisa page, how much they couldn

. >> sean: how about bruce and nelly ohr? strzok and page? susan rice? >> sally yates?sean: james comey? sid vicious blumenthal? bill and hillary? obama? mccabe, lynch, i have a long list. john? >> there is a column in "the hill" by jonathan turley, i encourage everyone to read it. it said we just prosecuted michael flynn for false statements. what what if this report about g is true? what we prosecute him and treat him the same way? >> sean: is that equal justice under the law, john? >> that's the big question. can the justice department effectually do it when he was such a big part. >> sean: if i deleted subpoenaed emails, i wonder if i'd go to jail, if i acid washed my hard drive and beat up my blackberry and iphone, i want a will happen, sara. >> you'd probably be prosecuted and you would go to jail. that's a fact. that is the reason why these investigations are so important. they are not just a washington centric investigation. this is about the american people. thishi is about our fourth amendment rights when we think of fisa abuse, carter page, it's not just cart

agency has been besmurched by a group of people at the leadership, that's james comey, andrew mccabe, bruce ohrndermine who the country voted for it's really unfortunate. pete: we'll have a chance to hear more from you tonight on wise guys airs on the fox news channel but you've got a fantastic program. maria: we do the chairman of the house dish your it committee bob goodlatte, he along with trey gowdy have calling for second special counsel we'll go through the fireable offences that were clear and in your face about andrew mccabe, why he was fired and what this means. you have to ask yourself who was directing andrew mccabe and james comey. did president obama, did loretta lynch tell them, but did president obama do that tell loretta lynch that so how high this goes up this is going to be found out. rachel: wow. pete: and you have peter tiel also. maria: who says by the way, he knew that president trump would win and he thinks he's going to win again in 2020. ed: maria we want you to stand by with us as we bring in our colleague and friend bill hammer who you always see when there's a big el

james comey, like andrew mccabe, people over at justice like bruce ohr and others who were pushing throughgreat point, ed , and beyond that, you still have folks at the department of justice that were involved in the process, so include the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who signed off on the most recent renewal application of this fisa application, so for all those reasons, i think the american people would be concerned with the department of justice investigating itself in this circumstances given everything that we know, so why not appoint someone from outside the department of justice, give them a very narrow mandate to look specifically at the actions in 2016, 2017 as it relates to these potential fisa abuses. i realize that there is fatigue out there with the american people regarding special counsel s but i think if it's narrowly crafted for the specific issues that we're talking about, i think it's the best way to restore confidence for the american people in our justice system and the officials at the department of justice and the fbi. pete: representative our attorney gen

this group which included peter strzok, bruce and his wife nellie ohr. e worked for fusion that came up with the trump dossier. bruce was a high up figure in the department of justice and andrew mccabe. apparently andrew mccabe, assistant at the fbi, he is featured in the inspector general's report that is due out this month or next month. we've been hearing that there may be some blockbusters in that report about mr. mccabe. have you been hearing the same. >> we hear some things. i want to be careful on that. let's wait to see what the inspector general has to say. i will tell you this as well. we don't need to the inspector general that we know and eventually will share with the american people. i have to come back the to original proposition. how is it that director comey and the department of justice selected and promoted these individuals who were clearly so partisan, so actively partisan and so open about their partisanship? it casts a pall on the entire department, on the entire fbi. david: it does. >> for leadership like that so to be so aggressiv