the dossier was funneled to bruce ohr. he then took it to the fbi and the fbi can say wowr, we got a top justice official -- because at the time bruce ohr was one of the top officials in the justice department. he's giving the fbi the doses yay. that gives weight to the fraudulent document and again that's the basis for going to get the warrant to spy on carter page and spy on the trump campaign. lou: appearing before you this week will be nelly ohr as well as james backer, the former fbi general counsel. what are your expectations and is there any light that we're going to see illuminate further what is going on or is this going to be more behind, you know, closed doors. the american public now knows that there is rampant toxic political corruption throughout doj and the fbi and that a president has been wrongly, wrongly charged and investigated through a special counsel that was a complete conflicted contrivance from the beginning. >> right. no. when jim baker comes back -- we didn't get to finish that deposition. he had

is that in your mind with the goal of trying to figure out what happened with bruce ohr and with nelliehr and glenn simpson and christopher steele about how to this investigation get started? >> regarding the mueller team, all they can do is write a report and in that report, i think that if we learn conclusively how it started, that should go in the report also which would demonstrate the bias. but i need to point out having work with a special prosecutor that was a model of special prosecutors when you investigate the president, if you find evidence incriminating him or her, that is well and good but if you do not, you have not failed. all you're required to do is do a thorough job, the chips fall where they may. and i don't see the matter how many guilty pleas or indictments we've had, none of them have involved the president. >> melissa: thank you for coming on, we appreciate it. come back soon. >> thank you for having me. >> melissa: with a 2020 campaign season already ramping up, president trump was asked which potential democrat opponent he is most worried about. the answer may s

which had a lot of information for that. >> harris: and bruce ohr's wife? >> were to be scheduled to begin on friday. i said that now because they come in willy-nilly and sometimes they don't want to come, but she will be here and that will happen and should get some questions asked answered there. his relationship because she worked for his firm. we went out to give you a chance to respond to this since this committee would make mccarthy proud. what is your reaction to that? >> he knows is hyperbole, i had a chance to talk with him. during the event, during the deposition. very vicious and vitriolic and this deposition hearing was vitriolic. each side handled it professionally and did our best to try to get information out and we did to get information out and it was going to happen. we wanted to want to share with you the president's tweet on this today. is it really possible that bruce ohr was wife was paid by simpson and gps fusion and who was used as a pond in this whole scam parenthetically witch hunt is still working for the department of justice, ca

some bruce ohr's contact with the dossier in 2016.e answers is the co-founder of gps. he was here for a deposition earlier this week, where he took the fifth and also ignored reporters see questions. >> mr. simpson, what was on the memory stick that you gave justice department official bruce ohr in late 2016? mr. simpson? will you take our questions? mr. simpson, was any part of the dossier ever verified? how is refusing our questions consistent with your past job as a journalist, mr. simpson? mr. simpson, will you take our questions? >> reporter: simpson's attorney said he was taking the fifth because he testified in front of other committees and he felt this was really a circus and not a serious investigation. separately, we've heard from two republicans who have been in the deposition behind me this morning on the rod rosenstein issue. they both said that they were unhappy. one used the word that it was unacceptable, the terms that had been agreed to next week. this will be at this point a closed door under oath transcribed intervi

the narrative of the dossier, and we have information proving that christopher steele's telling bruce ohrt it to his friends at the special counsel, but none of it is verified. >> absolutely, sean. think about this. you have nellie ohr delivering information to her husband that he is holding onto. he is delivering that information to the fbi, t apparently. he is also being used as a backdoor to deliver information for christopher steele to the fbi after the fbi fired and basically dismisses christopher steele as a confidential informant. when they were gathering information, because he was leaking to the media. so how can congress get to the bottomki of any of this if nelle ohr is refusing to talk about the conversations she had with her husband? these are not private conversations between a husband and wife. these are conversations between an employee, a fusion gps, and an official of the department of justice. and congress should continue to demand answers from her, just as they did from james baker. maybe the person to ask about a lot of these questions is going to be around rosenstein

is it really possible that bruce ohr was wife was paid by simpson and gps fusion and who was used as a pond in this whole scam parenthetically witch hunt is still working for the department of justice, can this really be

and, why is there is a discrepancy between your earlier testimony and that of justice official bruce ohr? what was on the memories deck. mr. simpson, will you take our questions? was any part of the dossier ever verified? >> house republicans also have called for nellie ohr, that's bruce ohr's wife, to testify on friday. and she worked for fusion gps but now, she could be a no-show. so why don't you show up to something like this? is there an inherent idea that you don't have to answer questions but the american public has the right to know? >> i don't know what's going on in that story. in the 2016 election ever die? >> not if you lost. >> they are not stumped stopping and, that's what glenn simpson has said. devon nunez did the same thing where he threatened to hold him in there and he came voluntarily. and glenn simpson's lawyer said he had been nakedly partisan and was all over tv. >> a lot of people ignore people and hallways. >> answer them in front of anyone. >> i've been known to share too much. i certainly don't want to answer those questions in the hallway but i think if you ge

also married to the twice-demoted dodge official bruce ohr. d they wanted to funnel phony information to the special council robert mueller. and nelly helped. and fox news learned that nellie ohr took the spousal privilege. mark meadows was in that meeting. he joins us now, along with fox news contributors sara carter, investigative reporter. and john solomon. well, at least she showed up. rosenstein is now rescheduled for the 24th. tell us what you can as it relates to us. >> the details of that particular interview are not something we're sharing publicly, but your lead-in is exactly right. we were trying to get to the connection between fusion gps and glen simpson. and ultimately the go-between, which was in our opinion at times nellie ohr to bruce ohr at doj and then to the fbi. and so a lot of the communication, he was actually a cooperative witness, but when it got down to the real details, she either didn't recall or they invoked a privilege that would say that the intimate conversations between a husband and wife could not be divulged a

has testified inconsistently with glen simpson, that's the issue, he said he met with bruce ohr the election, ohr says no it was before and after, so that misrepresentation, the perjure statement could bring criminal liability. this is about the fact that glen simpson could be in trouble. heather: he did not tell committees that he met nelly ohr, bruce ohr's wife who is apparently going to testify next week possibly. >> right. there's a reason for this, you don't take the fifth, you've got problems. attorney is giving advise for good reason. heather: should he be subpoenaed? >> he should be subpoenaed, should be brought before the committee and he could then take the fifth publicly. in that event, the congress can get immunity if they wanting to down that route or try to hold him in contempt if they do not believe he's appropriately invoking the fifth amendment. heather: give him immunity -- >> that's not what they are going to do. if you get immunity, you can't plea the fifth, you lost potential for criminal liability and you can be compelled. i don't see them doing that. i thi

on twitter, the president questioned why bruce ohr is still working at the justice department.er the deposition, republicans said they are reviewing mr. simpson's legal position. >> simpson has to have a reasonable apprehension of criminal prosecution in order to validly invoke the fifth. if not, you cannot just invoke the fifth to avoid answering congressional questions. >> a few more witnesses are expected on capitol hill this week. we expect their appearance is to be voluntary. the top lawyer at the fbi, and bruce ohr's lawyer. >> bret: catherine live on the hill. thank you. we will continue to follow that. officials in florida now say 16 deaths are being blamed on hurricane michael appeared that double the earlier estimate in the state. they say 12 of those deaths occurred in bay county, which took a direct hit from the store. that's where mexico beach is located. mike tobin is again there tonight. good evening. >> good evening. power restoration is in full swing, but it could still be more than a week until some customers have the lights back on. the cleanup is constant in

also married to the twice-demoted dodge official bruce ohr. wanted to funnel phony information to the special council robert mueller. and nelly helped. and fox news learned that nellie ohr took the spousal privilege. mark meadows was in that meeting. he joins us now, along with fox news contributors sara carter, investigative reporter. and john solomon. well, at least she showed up. rosenstein is now rescheduled for the 24th. tell us what you can as it relates to us. >> the details of that particular interview are not something we're sharing publicly, but your lead-in is exactly right. we were trying to get to the connection between fusion gps and glen simpson. and ultimately the go-between, which was in our opinion at times nellie ohr to bruce ohr at doj and then to the fbi. and so a lot of the communication, he was actually a cooperative witness, but when it got down to the real details, she either didn't recall or they invoked a privilege that would say that the intimate conversations between a husband and wife could not be divulged and cer

she invoked spousal privilege because she is married to bruce ohr. justice department top official demoted last year. next week deputy attorney general rod rosenstein faces off with some angry republican lawmakers accusing him of refusing to give up key documents in the russia probe and even more. bre, what can republicans get out of rosenstein? >> that will be interesting to see what they can get from him. everything that we have heard from the left about all the mueller investigation and everything thus far has been oh, we deserve transparency about everything that happened. and i agree with that. we 100% deserve transparency. and that includes rosenstein being forthcoming about whether the department of justice unjustly surveilled carter page, and how much nepotism was going on to spur what they were doing. i think we deserve to get to the bottom of the truth. rosenstein should consider that when he's going forward with this. it will be interesting to hear what the left has to say about all of this. liz: what was your take on it? >> bruce and nell

that is in direct contradiction to what bruce ohr told me under oath last month.th. carley: simpson's firm was behind the controversial anti-trump dossier. president trump answering questions as to whether james mattis could be the next to leave the administration. >> i don't know. he hasn't told me that. >> do you want him to leave? >> i have a good relationship with him. i think he's sort of a democrat, if you want to know the truth. but general mattis is a good guy. we get along very well. he may leave. i mean, at some point everybody leaves, everybody, people leave. that's washington. carley: sort of a democrat. mattis has openly disagreed with president trump on several key issues including scrapping the iran nuclear deal and the role of nato. mattis has not responded. another royal baby is on the way. just five months after tying the knot, meghan markle and prince harry are expecting their first child. the news breaking overnight, the duke and duchess of sussex will welcome the baby in the spring of 2019, something very exciting to look forward to next he ye

. >> bruce ohr was on capitol hill in august for a similar deposition about how we passed the dnc and clintons dossier. on twitter the president questioned why bruce ohr whose wife nellie was questioned is still working at the justice department. after the deposition, republicans said they are studying the legal position. >> if indeed he has a reasonable apprehension of criminal prosecution, certainly it would be a proper assertion in his constitutional rights. if not, you can just invoke the fifth to avoid answering congressional questions. >> two more witnesses are expected to testify this week. former top lawyer at the fbi, james baker as well as bruce ohr's wife, natalie. >> shannon: thank you very much. house republicans investigated the investigators this weekend, there is the robert mueller investigation. as he noted, he is everywhere except the midterms. they are not talking about that. let's bring in former senior advisor, author of the deep state, jason. great to have both of you. before go to molar. i want to touch about catherine was talking about. the fact that glenn simp

we've asked for bruce ohr's three oh twos, and he won't let us see those.of all that, he was a no-show last week when he was asked to come in and give us answers under oath and now today, a key player in this whole affair took the fifth. so no, i have as big a beef with rod rosenstein as i do with jeff sessions because rod rosenstein is the one making it difficult to do our job as a separate but equal branch of government. >> martha: 's rod rosenstein's attorney disagrees with you, which i'm sure it is not a big surprise. talking about you guys, watch. >> this committee has largely conducted its business through secret, confidential interviews, binding witnesses and their counsel, to silence, while the members walk outside to all of you, the media, and the public, and selectively leak from those interviews to tell you what they want you to hear. >> martha: thus glenn simpson's attorney version of this. >> glenn simpson took the fifth today. you take the fifth if you believe you have some kind of criminal liability. that's the only reason you take the fifth.

he told officials he first met with bruce ohr after the 2016 election. but ohr's emails and handwritten notes show contact months before. ohr's wife nellie is also expected to testify. she did research for fusion gps. gregg jarrett, if they read your book, they would have known bruce ohr had contact with simpson before the election. gregg: they are the ones behind the hoax funded by hillary clinton that was feeding phoney information to the fbi. david: even if simpson does plead the fifth web is on record saying he didn't know. he is in trouble, even if he pleads the fifth. >> i read this testimony today. and a couple other things jump out at you. he insiste insist -- he insistey read it. of course he said i only met with bruce after the election. the documents show before. so he's in they will jeopardy. that's why he's invecting the fifth. david: he was linked to the russian disinformation campaign which is what a lot of the dossier was. i talked to the former head of the cia chief in moscow. and asked him what he thought about the trump dossier. he sai

bruce ohr said they met before the election and symptom reporting he met him after the election. does that say that he was meeting with him and feeding him information. >> the relationship between ohr and simpson and steele is a complicated one. and one that raises some questions. why was ohr involved in the investigation if he wasn't part of the investigation itself. there is no doubt there have been challenges with behavior in terms of specific individuals where that includes ohr or mccabe or lisa page or the like. but what is important is the overall investigation continues forward. it's been reauthorized repeatedly, parts of it include the carter page fisa, an appointee of this president. while a lot are saying look, it's true, i don't see the kind of global problem that a lot of people alleged today. >> michael usman is a major lawyer in washington, d.c. he represented the democratic national committee and hillary clinton campaign. during the campaign reports say he met and funneled information to the fbi on the trump campaign. did he have a legitimate reason to think the rus

nellie ohr, the wife of bruce ohr, will be testifying on friday.to question her, obviously, about her involvement and operational role along with her husband, the fact that they were paid by fusion gps and benefited from the creation of the steele dossier as the central piece of evidence before the foreign intelligence surveillance court, a fact that was never disclosed to the judges at the court. we want to ask her about that. tomorrow, fbi general counsel, former counsel to jim comey and andy mccabe at different points in time will be able to shed light on the mccabe memos and the comey memos and the conversations that were taking place at the fbi about president trump and investigations into potential obstruction of justice charges against him. maria: and i believe the last time you questioned james baker, the top lawyer at the fbi, he basically said, yeah, rod rosenstein saying i want to wear a wire and invoke the 25th amendment to take down president trump, this was serious, even though later rod rosenstein said i was just joking about it. >>

official bruce ohr appeared on capitol hill today. nellie ohr worked for fusion g.p.s.2016 election cycle when her husband met with christopher steele about the infamous trump dossier. but during her testimony to a house panel today, nellie ohr invoked a spousal privilege in order to limit what she told lawmakers. she right to do that? why didn't she say? we are joined by a professorsa who has been watching this. thank you for coming on. i assume it's legitimate to invoke spousal privilege. sounds legitimate to me as a nonlawyer. what do you think she was hoping not to say? >> it's pretty rare to have a supposed acclaim raised, particularly with all the advancements that women have been able to achieve to have someone in an important position refusedio to answer questions fm the oversight committee by returning to a r spousal status, it is problematic, because there are serious questions raised here. conflicts in the testimony that people have cited. with regard to her husband. what we have to find out is what is the real record? when were the contacts made? who were th

bruce ohr wasn't part of the investigation. we have that. rosenstein testified to that.e russia investigation and the interviews are with two people that don't have security clearances. glenn simpson and christopher steele. there is no way that the documents could be classified. in fact, we have seen many of the notes and we feel like they would be illuminating and truthfully will show some of the inappropriate behavior that has happened at the f.b.i. and d.o.j. >> lou: thank you. good night from new york. see you tomorrow. >> now i promise you this maria tomorrow morning on maria in the morning you'll have some news one way or another that will be big in perhaps market moving. >> market moving indeed. trump administration and canada strike a last minute deal on trade and investors are applaud that move. big time u.s. investor looking at potential records for major averages today dow is up 210 points. and taking a look at stockses starting the fourth quarter doing well today after we saw a big gain in the third quarter, the the dow jumped 9% in the third quarter. the s&p

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bruce ohr wasn't part of the investigation. we have that. rosenstein testified to that.t of the russia investigation and the interviews are with two people that don't have security clearances. glenn simpson and christopher steele. there is no way that the documents could be classified. in fact, we have seen many of the notes and we feel like they would be illuminating and truthfully will show some of the inappropriate behavior that has happened at the f.b.i. and d.o.j. >> lou: thank you. good night from new york. see you tomorrow. (announcer) the following is a paid advertisement for time life's video collection. ladies and gentlemen, dolly parton. ♪ here you come again (announcer) it's country music's biggest night. ♪ just when i'm about to get myself together ♪ (announcer) when country's greatest stars perform on country's biggest stage. ♪ all my ex's live in texas (announcer) and now, you can have your very own front row seat... ♪ you picked a fine time to leave me, lucille ♪ ♪ with four hungry children (announcer) ...for the greatest live performances ever. here are

because he said that he hadn't had any contact with bruce ohr until around thanksgiving in 2016, butusand we're learning from some of -- now we're learning from some of bruce ohr's e-mails that it was august of that year. so they add -- had a lot to discuss before the election. there's so many people involved here, and sometimes it's easy to lose track of these players and how they intersect including michael sussman who was the attorney working for the law firm that was paying for the dossier. what was his interaction with james baker who was lead counsel at the fbi. what does rod rosenstein have to do with any of this? where was his oversight when all of this was going on, and should there have been more recusals in this case? >> well, i'm not saying there should be more recusals. i think jeff sessions should never have recused himself. but i certainly think rod rosen stein has some exposure, and he should have -- and a conflict of interest, and he should have recused himself, and i think he should be gone. but he's not. and so we're getting this constant morass of denials from the

simpson what was on the memory stick thaw fav justice department official bruce ohr in late 2016?, will you take our questions? melissa: joining me jason chaffetz, former house oversight committee member and fox news contributor. those are good questions and probably ones catherine put together they would want to ask. what do you think is on the memory stick? >> something, very, very important because glenn simpson testified previously under oath. for him to now plead the fifth would lead to conclude maybe his testimony hasn't been consistent. at the key, at heart of this, melissa is the timeline of the department of justice laid out a timeline. you had james baker, chief counsel, others come testify and maybe paint a picture that is a little bit different and i'm not talking about being off by one or two dates but a significant gap in data and information that the committee wants to know about. melissa: why does that matter? because they seem like they're pointing out the fact that these guys were all working on the dossier and they were working on you know, what is the trump rus

nelli ohr, bruce's wife, can shed some light.e need to find out from her who was paid $35,000 for her work including if work on the steel dossier, why that fact, the wife of the number four person of the department of justice had operational roles in respect to the steel dossier wasn't disclosed by them. >> where is the crime? is it her husband or her? she did the research that was never verified on donald trump appeared put it in the dossier and put it on a thumb drive and gave it to her husband who wasn't working on anything abouttrum be at the time. >> the questions with respect to the fisa court and representations made. we are talking about getting the warrant to spy on an american citizen. if that was done on false pretenses with false information that's violating someones civil liberties under color of law. so, that's why we need to talk to nelli ohr and others to determine what the fbi knew, when they knew it. what the departmen department oe knew and why they knew it. >> it sounds like there was a group at the top of the

big issue, whether he told the truth about timing of meetings with the justice department, namely bruce ohr department in the middle of the election, in august of 2016. he tried to cover that up it looks like to congress and that's why he is facing some concerns about a perjury prosecution. brian: he looks like he lied. somebody is lying because they all can't be telling the truth because their stories are so different. tom, you're indefatiguable in pursuing the truth. >> thank you. brian: sixth death threat to republican candidate. why was she targeted? joins us live next. introducing the all-new lexus es. a product of mastery. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. with pro-skin technology. for two times faster absorption. so you can have worry free nights, and wake up feeling fresh and free. for a free sample visit tena.us you can do things like change your settings, learn tips and tricks, troubleshoot, and even manage your account. finding your xfinity username or wifi password, restarting your equipment, or paying your bill is easier than ever with x1. x1 help. another reason to love

simpson, why is there a discrepancy between your earlier testimony and bruce ohr? mr. was on the memory stick that you gave justice department official bruce ohr in late 2016? mr. simpson, will you take our questions? >> the session lasted 45 minutes. simpson took the fifth and allowed his lawyer to speak afterwards. the lawyer told reporters this was simply a political exercise designed to try and help the president in the russia probe. he said it was not a serious investigation. fox news asked the lawyer some pointed questions about the dossier and what, in fact, had ever been verified in that document. he seemed a little agitated by those questions. here is the attorney. >> russians tried to elect donald trump president. it's been proven. and you are quibbling about whether this little detail on page 127 was correct or not? it's absurd. you have to stop this. the big picture is that a foreign hostile power was trying to interfere in our democracy and presidential election. >> the lawmakers who were inside the session today said they fully expected simpson to take th

that is in direct contradiction to what bruce ohr told me under oath last month.ing the fifth. he probably should. he's in real legal jeopardy, very clearly someone is not telling the truth. the end of the day, maria, where we're headed here is no charges for collusion or obstruction with anyone associated with the trump campaign. maria: joining us right now is judge andrew napolitano. big week coming up on the hill, nellie ohr, james baker slated to testify. glen simpson said he's taking the fifth on tuesday. >> start with the easier one. glen simpson is getting good advice not to testify because he's already given some testimony which is at odds with others -- what others said. when you're in that box, the best legal advice is to remain silent. however, he has already testified as congressman ratcliffe just said before the house committee and by doing that, he may have waived his right to remain silent. once you break the right to remain silent, you can't pick and choose which interrogator you're going to answer and which ineight teainterrogator you're o answer.

bruce ohr testified about a month ago, or six weeks ago here on capitol hill.oluntarily to the hill. the person who has so many of the answers is the co-founder of fusion gps glenn simpson. this week he took the fifth. >> mr. simpson, what was on the memory stick that you gave bruce ohr in late 2016? mr. simpson, will you take our questions? mr. simpson, was any part of the dossier ever verified? how is refusing our questions consistent with your past job as a journalist? mr. simpson, will you take our questions? >> at the top of the report i was talking about these comments from two republican lawmakers and we've got that sound ready for you now. let's listen. >> i think it's -- instead of having him here under oath they are going to have some little game of patty cake with the committee chairmen and ranking members with no transcript or television cameras or no other members of the committee. >> what we heard from one democrat who was heading into the session is that he was satisfied with the terms for rod rosenstein's appearance next week and also eager to h

received testimony from the former general counsel to the fbi that it was center unusual that he had bruce ohrellie ohr that fusion gps hired to smear president trump. you mad the spowfs that individual shuttling information to the general counsel of the fbi to make political dirt look like a genuine basis to start an investigation. that's what's corrupt and we have to expose. lou: something i need you to help me understand. that's why rod rosenstein will go to the hill next week and will only be questioned by the chairman of house oversight and judiciary and the ranking democratic members of those two committees. that is to me infuriating because both claremen, trey gowdy and bob goodlatte are retiring. they never accomplished a single damm thing in their careers. and every investigation have have led has resulted in zero. am i wrong? >> this is a bunch of crap. you can't have a circumstance where some of the most of important facts the american people need to know whether the person running the frickin justice department wanted to wear a wire for cabinet officials unseat president trump. thi

. >> right, we know that bruce ohr was used as a back-channel by fbi to get information from christopherele after spying former british spy, and nelly ohr who was working for fusion gps a long time, she speaks russian fluidly, and she worked in soviet union at the time it was soviet union. lou: we have collusion. and if you will, a little con-- conflewence. people doing investigation for justice department, and leading it, they are the ones with connects to russia. it is most preposterous moment that anyone would contemplate in letting this so-called special counsel, bob mueller continue. the president is right, it is a witch-hunt, and -- anyway it is just rating. >> you . . including vice chair, that is senator mark warner. >> absolutely. lou: that is for next week. how about it. >> thank you, lou. i would love to be back. lou: you got it, see you then. >> thank you. lou: sarah carter. >> up next. latest on disappearance of saudi -- what was he? operative? activist. jamal khashoggi. >> and president trump refused to rush to judgment, we take to rush to judgment, we take that up and more

. >> we know that bruce ohr was used as a back channel to get information about christopher steele afterey filed the former british sky. we know that nellie ohr worked for fusion g.p.s. she was a professor that taught russian -- >> lou: so we finally have collusion. if you will, a little confluence. we have all the people doing the investigation for the f.b.i., the justice department and leading it. they are the ones with the connection to russia. pros 'er thous moment that anyone -- this is the most preposterous moment to allow this special counsel robert mueller continue. the president is right. this is a witch hunt. frustrating. >> you are absolutely right. it is frustrating and every bit of evidence points toward them not to president trump or the campaign colluding. >> we have members of the select committee with explaining to do, including the vice chair himself that is senator mark warner. so that is for next week. how about it? >> thank you. i'd love to be back. >> lou: you've got it. see you then. thank you so much. sara carter. up next the latest in the disappearance of the sau

sussman himself who was working with perkins was passing information like a back channel similar to bruce ohrker who delivered it to the counter-intelligence division. part of the imagination that the doj and fbi was trying to keep from the american people. they didn't want this information coming out. >> sean: a lot with held not to embarrass themselves in the name of national security. >> absolutely. >> sean: wasn't there an attempt here to show members of the elite were involved -- they wanted retribution for the firing of comey. >> that's right. the american people will be stunned tomorrow about the high level official in the doj. >> sean: alan dershowitz. i know you as a person. i know that politics is not bean ball. it's a blood sport. all of us are in the public arena. we will all get lied about. you have been lied about and i have been lied about. what they did to judge kavanaugh, the democratic party systematically ignoriing presumption of innocence and due process. i believe her but you have not heard from the other side. you are not that person. but that is your party. reaction? >>

ly tell you we know that bruce ohr was feeding information and christopher steele with information directlythe fbi and we learned today that there was another source as well that was getting information about the russian investigation to the fbi. i thought we knew most of this. mark me deuce and -- meadows were in the deposition together. so some important information we got today again, we can't get into the details but very important facts we learned today. lou: you feel like you're moving forward as you have sought to do throughout this outraged scandal that -- >> mr. rosenstein, lou, he's supposed to be next week. lou: congressman, we appreciate everything that you're doing, we appreciate your leadership. >> you bet. lou: up next senator lindsey graham booed by the radical left because he defended judge kavanaugh, but he had, i think, a perfect response. >> i'm the first person to say i want to hear from dr. ford, i thought she was handled respectfully, i thought kavanaugh was treated like crap. yeah, well, boo yourself. lou: boo yourself, we will have more right after the break on the