martha: wow, what a story we are joined now by bruce palmer the spokesperson for the national leadership the wilderness adventure program. good to talk to you today, bruce, welcome. this must have shaken you all up when you got word of this. >> absolutely. it's the worst possible thing that you could imagine. we here at the leadership school, we are pleased to see how quickly the alaska state troopers were able to step in and get a helicopter in the air and moving toward the students to support them, and then get them out of the field. and so, yeah, you get that kind of word it gets your attention really quickly. martha: i can imagine. you guys have been leading outstanding programs for many, many years for students across this country. this must have been, you know, a real kick in the gut when you got that phone call. speaking of kicks, one of the boys that we heard from a little while ago he said, you know, i just kicked him in the face, this bear, and, you know, basically kod him, that's what we do where i come from. is that what you trained him to do? >> not exactly. in terms of our