sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: bruce ratner is here, the chairman & ceo of forest city ratner companies. he is one of the nation's most successful urban real estate developers. 25 years ago he saw the potential to revitalize brooklyn that ambition lead to the metrotech center, a 16 acre corporate campus that has produced more than 20,000 jobs. today his attention is focused on redeveloping the atlantic yard site at the centre of that project the barclays center. it will be home to the nba nets franchise. they depart new jersey for brooklyn next year. i'm pleased to have bruce ratner at this table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: we do lots of architects on this program as you know. >> it's true. >> rose: your friend frank ghery has been on ten times at least. but not many developers. tell me how you see developers and you ho you-- what do you think of the role of developers and why should we add mayor them and why should we not so much admire them. >> that's a very, very good question. well, first of