anthony: with those as bruce richardson and founding partner. some say the leaks are great because it's pointing to transparency and others say it's well shaming. what's your opinion on the leaks? >> i think it's a lot like wikileaks. it went both ways so it scared everybody at the government levels because it was an illegal use of information but for the broader public people look at it and they say this is shedding light in bringing transparency. sunlight is the best disinfectant so maybe this will clean up a lot of shadiness in our financial system. >> i used that with my kids when i'm trying to get them to clean their room. you know vladimir putin. >> wei. and he is by far the most popular politician in russia and russian modern history since the fall of communism. anthony: you think he's one of their richest people in the world? >> i know this will go against the headlines but i think you will not find vladimir putin's identities and any of these panama papers because when you are the most political figure in the country, when you have been