joining me now from malibu, councilman for the city of malibu, california, bruce silverstein, bruce, thanks for joining us. how are you doing right now? >> thank you for having me on, katy. i'm in tears here just watching your report. i don't know how to begin. i mean, i was on the phone this morning with the head of our building department, and i literally -- it takes a lot to make me cry. i have been a litigator for close to 40 years. we have just in malibu alone, we have lost unofficially 600 homes, which is pretty much, you're familiar with the area, the entirety of east malibu from the civic center area, actually from an area called sarah, all the way up to topanga where the fire came in, and that's just the same as what's going on in the palisades and topanga, in altadena. this is a catastrophe, and it's really hard to take in. we had a fire six years ago, the woolsey fire which took out 400 homes in malibu and a thousand or so throughout the county, and that was like world war i to world war ii. this is now world war ii. this is even worse. >> those who don't live in malibu or

bruce silverstein is here with us. thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us.for having me on. >> and by the way, your reporting and steve's reporting before you're spot on, just watching it, it's exactly what's going on here. so, you know, the fire is still active as steve just reported, fires are still being dealt with and will continue to burn no doubt for days. >> but the recovery effort has to begin immediately. and steve said that it's not it's too late to start the rebuilding. >> clearly it's too late to start rebuilding. >> but what needs to be started immediately is recovery. >> and by that i mean people don't have toothbrushes, people don't have clothes, people don't have water. >> they don't. people whose homes burned have nothing. they may be fortunate enough to have some resources they can lean on to before the insurance companies come in and give them something, but they've got nothing. we went through this six years ago with the woolsey fire, which was devastating, but not as devastating, if that. >> and that's so hard to believe. >> but i've not