and bruce weber was the photographer at the time. and when you went-- . >> stephen: still a photographer, isn't he. >> but at the time he was like the revelation. i mean he has been the revelation for many years now but then it was the beginning. and all the model agencies had all the models look like a bruce weber model and i needed to find my own so i found them at the streets, at parties, at restaurants. and i photograph them for these magazine. when she closed the magazine to go to vogue, i carried on finding the people but i didn't have the clothes or time to style them. so i decided to work on my light. and as in drawing you,the first thing you learn is nudes, i thought that to train my light i should do nudes as well. and it was an interesting moment because they would come in the morning when we were all preparing for whatever else we were doing the shoot. and i would do one after the other. and i have a collection of them. i started with the guys then went with the girls. i sort of felt hard ter to get the girls to do it. bu