he is a citizen of the lower brule sioux tribe and is an assistant professor of american studies at the university of new mexico. welcome back to democracy now! professor, it is great to have you with us. let's talk about the significance of this moment that president trump chose to seize on. july 3, in honor of independence day, he goes to not rushmore -- gold speculator, new york attorney, designed by a supporter of the ku klux klan. even as leaders of indigenous nations in the united states demanded he not come to the black hills. talk about the significance of mount rushmore for indigegenous people and that whole area. >> good morning, amy. yes, this is a very kind of important history to talk about because as you mentioned in the news brief, the black hills, or what we know as --, the cultural center of our universee.. more than 50 different indigenous natations actually he origin stories or ties or spiritual connections to the black hillsls. and the lakota people as well as the cheyenne a and arapahoe people, , when they signed the fort lemii treaty became the caretakekers of that

the-pi th ridge reservation, but the cheyenne river sioux tribe and the rosebud sioux tribe and lower brulehe law of the nationthe sioux nation. this is the only way that we're survive another euralague.o and a lot of our european brothers and sisters, either they feel extra brave because they'd svive so ma plagues. but we as indigenous nations have a very direct memory of what we went through with smallpox, cholera,panish flu. i mean, it-- it hits us harder because we haven't been exposed to those things for that long. >> sreenivasan: yesterday, the president spent quite a deal of time talkingbout how he wants to preserve statues and monuments and how he wants to enforce those laws. one of the subtexts was that if protesters got their way, mount shmore would be demolished or destroyed in some way. that-- that's a very important to think abecause someeads need o ople want to blow it up, and some people wantrship it like their gods. and so, somewhere in the middle of that, we need to have a-- a frank truth-telling and a conciliation so we can go forward in this country together we need to de

the tribes needs to be done no consultation was 10 iraq cheyenne river yanked in croll creek lower brule those those tribes along the river were never completed to begin with and that has to be done if you're talking about any major crossing along the missouri river or any other major crossing like the almost on for keystone x.l. are the misery for joy it's. still is a victory here a direct link to the grassroots resistance or is it more about the legal battle because as we know the pipeline to go forward it has been in operation for what 33 years until now. you talk a little bit of about where where this came from the roots of it well it all started with grassroots people and the grassroots people were the ones that were pushing our tribal governments to. see tribal governments are very reactionary they're not going to do anything like most governments unless the people tell them to do something great so the track the grassroots people really really stood strong and said hey we need our travel cover ment's to become involved and to take on this legal battle because these are not cheap b

state and international real cost as such as russia today the high court has ruled that russia today brule costs actually potential home just the prime minister agree with me that it's time to look again but the lesson from russia today to operate in the u.k. johnson rebuked him for a talk of defacto banning antti television in britain referring to appearances by samas and predicts as a jeremy corbin having appeared on this show but that hasn't stopped britain's state mandated media's fixation with the russia report who else to turn to them for analysis but the gray zone smacks movement all of the of the management of savagery joins me now by skype from washington d.c. max thanks so much for coming back on so i guess 1st of all what do you make of this report the expert witnesses on russia christopher steele and the intelligence services own institute for statecraft which are helps journalists get to the truth in the fast ways it was really remarkable for me to see someone who is been fully discredited in the united states in christopher steel appear as an expert witness just 2 days before

nick estes is a native american historian from the lower brule sioux tribe, the native american nationlaims ownership of mount rushmore, and the sacred black hills on which they were carved. he's assistant proessor of american studies at university of new mexico. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for having me. what do you make of donald trump? visit? donald trump's visit is really in response to a long—standing conflict that can be summed up injust the last couple of months even though there has been in between the governor of south da kota between the governor of south dakota and the tribes and, as you mentioned earlier, the governor has refused to the states. she has been very aggressive towards the tribes who have set up health check followed to protect the communities because, as some of your listeners may no, indigenous tribes in the us are chronically underfunded for healthcare and the infrastructure in place is very precarious so any kind of infection of covid—i9 such as here, can be devastating again about multiple generations of families. it is not that indigen

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