brum: paul -- ken: paul, let's go to public works again.d you have in place that functioned? we don't think of public works being involved in disaster situations. mr. brum: well, naturally, we know that any time we have a disaster, that we're a big player in that disaster whether , it be a tornado or a flood. we know we're going to have to provide the heavy equipment necessary to assist the police or fire department. it's not unusual for us to dig for evidence for the police department or to assist with a hazmat operation. so i was amazed that my personnel were taking the initiative, because a lot of times when i would call for something, i would find it was already on the way. one of those issues was lighting. i said we will need lights to assist the fire department. they said we've taken care of it. we're headed that way. i found that happening a lot of times. i found that a lot of my people wanting to get invvolved that perhaps they didn't need be involved. we were actually having to hold some of those people back. ken: very good. thank

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brum: our first response was, some of my supervisors were there within minutes.actually utilized their pickups to take some of the walking wounded to the hot. -- to the hospital. then in return they would bring doctors and nurses and equipment back to the bomb site while they were waiting on a barricade crew who naturally were followed up. as soon as a bomb went off, i made call to my barricade people and asked them to head toward the site. and so within about 10 or 15 minutes, we had crews that were who naturally were followed up. on route that were actually there to support the police department in trying to take care of the perimeter to keep the people out that shouldn't be in the area. ken: and that raises an interesting point that we discussed earlier in the day. doctor, one of the things that we saw on television was just this massive response of volunteers. doctors, nurses. i don't know whether reports of the media requested doctors or nurses. off-duty police officers. firefighters, everybody came. what kind of -- let's talk specifically about ems, the pro

believe based on the lockdown churches around the world celebrate the holy day with no congregation in brum pope francis calls for global solidarity in fighting the coronavirus pandemic and the ceasefire as in all conflicts simply displayed normally packed with tens of thousands of worshipers stands does it also on the program. to the orders of citizens to stay in for 40 i doubt was europe's biggest metropolis is temple was deserted is that if you came into force more than 30 cities across the country to come to a standstill plus. study of harm of the easter weekend that's what germany's president told his country in a brick televised address friend fall to steinmeyer also said the crisis demands unity and the best of society. american held welcome pope francis has said a live streamed easter mass as the world's 1300000000 catholics civil rights holiday under lockdown but it is traditional it will be a message to what he called this year's easter of so he spoke in front of a small audience in some pages basilica instead of the 10s of thousands who normally gathered in the square francis cal

complicated to register for them especially persons without access the internet the computers will brumyou know we know the health care system is on the brink of collapsing it was that way before the pandemic began doesn't it make more sense for refugee refugees to stay in colombia fear. to be honest it doesn't make sense i mean just less that less than a few fragments of people listening in complete and from editing columbia knowing how to failure and how to feed themselves what a situation is not all of better and famous way take for example the column in capital city both of which has about 400000 friends leighton's 80 percent in this living in informatic can make these people struggling to make ends meet on a daily basis but to go back to venezuela means they need to show 1st buy from the 50 kilometers through then this month and range break quarantine and what's preoccupying me government is that there might be huge strain on the houses than in the border before the thing is right and you can raise their country limits and venezuela at the moment there are no guarantees for his saf

pete manningas from emergency medical services for oklahoma city and paul brum director of oklahoma cityrks. encourage you to call, once again 1-800-244-4084. as you move through this, i know you've all had a number of speaking engagements talking to different folks and things like that. what has been the reaction of people, your peers within law enforcement and fire and ems, sam, let's start with you as i know you've done a number of presentations. what questions do you get? what do people want to know? >> pretty much what we've talked about tonight. how they could expect to have to respond and the things they need to do, emergency plans that they need to put in place. i think one of the very, very keys that we always talk about is like paul brum said is having you a list of resources you could contact. we were very fortunate in one way that this happened at 9:00 in the morning and not at 2:00 in the morning. because some of the immediate responses we got from our community simply because it was at 9:00 in the morning may not have occurred. so that was extremely beneficial to us. but to

also with us is paul brum, the director and engineer of oklahoma city.employees were involved in the recovery earths. he was selected as one of top 10 public works directors in north america. gentlemen, welcome here. a great dealto discuss. i guess one of the combess -- questions since we brought bob and paul in, would be a massive event -- before we went on the air we talked about when the f.b.i. responded very quickly within the emergency. let's talk about that law enforcement and our corporation. obviously, you knew each other. knew the capabilities of of the departments. bob, what did you do when your agents were initially deployed? >> initially, my agents were deployed directly to the scene even before i arrived. they were assisting in the rescue mission of the initial response as well. and starting to -- to conduct some preliminary evident gathering and looking where perimeters were. when i arrived, the first thing i did was to seek out sam gonzales the chief of police because i knew primarily it would be the decisions that he and i made on the sce

. >> reporter: roger and mary >> roger brum blak wasn't just any pathologist, he was the head of thetment. in researching their final hours, reporter todd cooper learned the couple had last been heard from at about 2:00 p.m. on mother's day. >> one of the first things we found out about was the facetime conversation between both brumbacks and their daughter. and they were roaring with laughter at one point. so much that the daughter took a screenshot of the conversation. that's the kind of stuff that humanizes this, that makes -- you realize that this was just a lightning bolt in the middle of an otherwise normal mother's day. >> reporter: carol brumback, roger's sister, also spoke with her brother that afternoon. then two days later, a family member broke the awful news. >> well, he said, "roger and mary were murdered." and i said -- i said -- i said, "what are you talking about?" and he said, "they were murdered." >> reporter: what goes through your mind? >> you know, i had no idea. i had no idea, you know, what had happened. >> reporter: carol couldn't imagine who might want to ki