don't have any official state department answer for you that russia is supplying arms to the carla bruni that is a violation. good morning just going into i'm here in moscow hawkins revue ah thanks so much for joining us this hour. with u.s. coalition forces advancing against the islamic state in iraq the city of tal afar thousands of civilians are being displaced say they're forced to flee from both coalition bombs and the threat posed by terrorists the situation in the city has deteriorated dramatically causing humanitarian organizations to draw comparisons to the devastation witnessed in mosul. but i want to. know. whether. or not your. mind. and you do you know. as the operations have been moving forward of course we see that there are a lot of others to be in that have been affected of course fifty billion hardly any similar consequence to what the mood for nothing on the love food nothing for what you're. going to get more and people who are living below. the men you know. ninety one shot. is the latest objective in the u.s. backed war on islamic states it comes off the recap sort

this is a real low point for the american experiment think it was nothing but bruni and such a brilliant moment to see that the head of the cia michael hayden try to defend the stupidity of government sanctioned rectal feeding. let's differentiate if we can for the sake of this conversation between the abuses the things that were not sent authorized to go nuts right such as the rectal rehydration stuff ok that was a medical procedure. that is a real patriot. i don't think you know how the human body works and how. it goes straight into your veins that way no need for peter or carrot sticks or force and all but a rug filled for. the first time the c.e.o. or its contractors are being held accountable for torture that's this is store a cold moment the historical moment my hummus flavor. settled out of court so they wouldn't have to go to trial and reveal all the cia's mistakes and hansing suffering the trials would last for a century and the judge would have to leave this family you wouldn't see as kids grow up imagine we started the trial with this mistake they cleaned their newly waterboa

i want to introduce john heilman and frank bruni, a columnist for "the new york times." here's your title, the white house reporter eli stokols and kasie hunt. kelly o, while we were watching the president's statement that took place about an hour and 15 minutes ago. he left that statement and he went into another meeting with two generals, general kelly his new chief of staff, general hr mcmaster, his national security adviser and the president was there. we're starting to hear some news leak out about -- from the press pool about that second meeting. so can we start with what is just wrapping up, that second meeting where they covered north korea, where he was with two generals who were not aware that he would use the words fire and fury when that was the threat heard around the world earlier in the week. can you start with what you know about this latest meeting? >> well, as news late -- as the first installment from brett was, what is coming is stunning. the topics from russia to iran and relations with north korea so as you pointed out this is happening now. we don'

let me go to you, frank bruni, for your thoughts with, one, his attacks on john mccain and, two, his posing the question that maybe george washington's monuments and thomas jefferson's monuments should come down next. >> let us not forget him taking this serious national moment to tell us how large his winery is. we'll talk about the 25 minutes not just for the rest of the week but for aening long time come. i was shaking my head. i felt like, minus the flames it was an act of self-imolation by a man who can't take criticism. he obviously meant what he said on saturday. yesterday he obviously only said what he said because he was being made to. it was a child pouting. a narcissist screaming. whatever hole he was trying to dig out of he made three leagues deeper. >> frank bruni here with us. joining him. michael steele, former democratic congressman from tennessee harold ford jr. and doug thornel. michael steele, let me go to you about any good donald trump might have done himself yesterday. we were on the air talking about it a little bit after it happened by calling out neo-nazis an

"new york times" columnist frank bruni puts it this way. i keep hoping against hope that a new challenge will tease out a new trump and if he ma lingers in the presidency long enough, he'll meander in the direction of eloquence slouched toward poetry and tumble into inspiration but trump's murk talk and tweets were like his fair weather father, childishly intent on superlatives, laden with boefs and lavished with discordant asides. jeff and anita are back with me. jeff, it's not unusual to hear the president talk that way. it was unusual when he uses the same words that by the way, we sometimes use when talking about the storm that our meteorologists use when talking about the storm. you've heard them before from the president as boasts and brags. and they seem out of place. >> and that's right. what's interesting is everything he's saying about the storm is true. it is historic and epic. thing most people are attuned to hearing from a president is sort of the approach that ronald reagan took after the challenger explosion or the approach t

with frank bruni, "the new york times" columnist. this tweet came within hours of the attack. i just want to sort of contrast that in reaction to what happened in that car attack in charlottesville, both by cars. >> right. >> both acts of terror. >> right. >> he needed the facts before saying it was an act of terrorism and this he knew -- any explanation in >> he didn't need the facts. when he said i needed the facts before i commented that was ridiculous. he was just trying to make excuses for that saturday comment which fell so short of what he needed to do. and this was still litigating the case on tuesday when he made the ridiculous comments about needing the facts. he didn't need the facts before he spoke about his wires being tapped. he hasn't needed the facts before half the things he said. he's one of the most fact impervious presidents we've seen. that was just a line. >> a short time later he tweeted again. and he said, study what general pershing of the united states did to terrorists when caught. there was no more islamic terror for 35 years. recycling a debunked a

we have with us katie hunt, eugene robinson, frank bruni, catty k, phillip bump, and robert costa.including new poll numbers, but can we pull up the tweet. kasie hunt left the side and was talking the president might do this and here it is. great to see that dr. kelly ward is running against flake, jeff flake, who is weak on borders, crime, and nonfactor in senate. he's toxic. kasie hunt, what's going on here? >> jeff flake has joined the others who have earned nicknames from this president. we'll see if it sticks. this is something that is a real sign of donald trump going to war with his own party in washington. jeff flake has obviously been one of the most outspoken here in what criticizing what the president has done across the board. he's been a long-time critic of president trump. he's one of just two republicans who are considered to be vulnerable coming up in the midterm elections, and if he has to go through a bruising primary battle, perhaps is beaten by a challenger who is farther right, somebody who maybe aligns more with president trump, it's a real possibility that ar