and wilkine brutus of wlrn, south florida's npr member station. welcome to you all.oining us. brandis, in chicago, of course, even as the trial was going on, chicago was dealing with the adam toledo case there in itself. what's the reaction been there to what happened in minneapolis? >> i think all of this has kind of reinforced what a lot of activists have already been saying, even since last summer, and even long before the george floyd death last summer. obviously, you're aware that we have the laquan mcdonald case several years ago, a 17-year-old young man killed at the hands of a chicago police officer, and he was convicted a couple of years ago. so a lot of folks are calling for a lot more accountability out of the chicago police department and the mayor, and, specifically, they want to see civilian oversight over the chicago police department, which has been something they have been fighting for, for quite a while, and they think will take quite some time before they reach something where both sides are kind of satisfied. >> yang: and, jason in st. louis, of c