bryan stevenson can you respond to what he said? the issue of race when it comes to children who are in prison for life without parole, and also what is the response of your clients? you argued, won his case before the supreme court. >> i think what i have seen over 20, 25 years representing kids is that kids change and the powerful story you heard earlier is just a testament to how we have filled many of the kids in our communities. we have allowed them to become hopeless and brought into violent environments and thrown them away. we have to change that. that judge's perspective -- which are ultimately did change -- i think is one reason why this fight is so important. kids need to be oriented. they need to be inspired. they need to be energized. they have been condemned long before there were arrested too many kids believe by the time they're 13 and 14 that their lives have no hope. they're going to die or are going to die in prison. that hopelessness is very much what we're trying to respond to. it would make no sense to condemn

bryan. the speech so galvanized that convention. without that speech, he would not have been nominated. jump forward, stevenson, who does not want to run, delivers a welcoming address to the democrats. jump forward 50 years, barack obama, in effect, delivers a keynote. so you can still -- the the connection between bryan and obama is one speech can make a career. >> did he have any other government jobs? >> he was a congressman from nebraska. and he was a lousy secretary of state. >> for whom? >> for woodrow wilson. >> i wouldn't say he was lousy. he retired and resigned over a principled issue. and i always wondered why people like cyrus vance, why americans don't design when there's an issue of principle? >> his commitment to principle and still think he was a failure. >> you remember what cyrus vance resigned about? >> he did not. he opposed something and it did not. >> i thought he stepped down? >> i don't think so. we'll check. >> i thought he quit over the attempted rescue. i thought it was the rescue. >> i thought he -- >> so you think he did resign? >> i think so. >> so we're giving him a bad wrap. >>