bt even the people who don't like me don't call me a phony, they've gotten to know me. [laughter] but i think you can't back away from authenticity and i think one reason trump got elected was people said is not the way i would like to say it, i think that's who he is and as a result people were willing to take a chance. the single most important thing, you can tell when they are not. you look at certain candidates and they are trying to think of what the answer should be, figure it out what you want to hear and the american people have proven themselves so the only way to overcome any, there is no doubt that exists. i think certain candidates overcomeir that. i know i said only three but -- i am not telling her to sit down. [laughter] no chance. if i've got to get in trouble with this woman -- i'm okay with that. >> thank you for indulging me. i am a moderate, i did vote for biden, i will say that but i think people need to understand biden was a viable candidate, that was really at. it's not that people were in love with biden partly why he's struggling now, he's going way left and it's like what are you doing? >> i'm so glad c-span is here to get r this. >> i'm glad