most of the people that live in bubbaville understand the people in and the bubbles and here is why great everything we see on television and the movies is all about the bubbles. television sitcoms movies are mostly depicted whether they are crime shows, doctor shows or films. most of them are about people who live in bubbles, new york washington or california lifestyle. we kind of know what the people live like because we see it all the time. but how may times can you think of a television sitcom that treats religious people respectfully that treats us as if we really are pretty normal and balanced and engaged in people. we are usually presented as charlatans who are out to hustle people out of their money where mouth breathing knuckle digging the end of girls who are just so backward that we haven't modernized and we are highly educated incredibly anti-intellectual and therefore really just not up to the same level as the elite. that is what i'm speaking to. >> host: this is what i love about our long friendship. i am a nonbeliever and you are a baptist minister and yet we both have a d

president you need to reach out to people in bubbleville because you consider yourself part of bubbaville. how do you do that? >> think by being honest. the inches fluns of new york, i don't think many people who are honest about the influence of new york washington and hollywood. if they actually read the book, are going to say, no that just doesn't happen. i mean people are have some understanding about how influential the culture of those three communities are on fashion, finance, politics government music, entertainment, television i think they wop underuld understand, yeah, there is a difference. that doesn't mean that you don't relate, it just means that you recognize the difference. of course, dana, this book was not so much a political treatise as it is sort of a cultural review of the country and what polarizes it. i think it's not just polarized by democrats and republicans, i really do think it's polarized culturally. that's the essence of the book. it's not safe, sanitized, sterilized as you well know because you read it. i think you would attest to the fact that it is not a t