frank luntz calls barbara boxer a bubblehead. stay with us. donal logue is a talented actor whose credits include "the tao of steve" and "grounded for life." his new project is the fox drama "terriers." >> martha, i am over here and there is a bit of a problem. sorry? 3520 costa del madre? that is a bit different. ok. you are a peach. thanks so much. >> no problem. tavis: is he stealing dogs? >> he stole his dog. it is interesting. i think the show's tone is great. it is hard to define at first because it starts out like. this is kind of where they are and circumstances draw them into a world that has a lot more gravitas to it. it gets a lot heavier as it goes down the road. tavis: i do not know what you meant by that, but this is not one of those episodic things where every week there is a different show on a different thing. >> it has to build. we had a lot of these discussions. one thing i always find interesting about these kinds of shows were either in a certain situation these guys would be in real danger, and yet in the middle of bullet