that was bucha, ukraine february 2023.hose home and business were occupied by russian forces. she was forced to live side by side with them until they left the city of bucha. the man with me in that clip is alexei goncharenko. he joins me now. he's a member of the ukrainian parliament. alexei, it is good to see you again. i'm sorry we're not together in person, but i wanted to talk to you about what you made of the discussions that have been going on for the last two weeks about how to end the war in ukraine, the discussions with russia that don't involve ukraine, and how ukrainians are seeing this. >> first of all. >> it's very. >> it's great. >> to see you again, and thank. >> you very much. >> that you. >> are covering. >> us still. >> covering our story. >> that's very important. >> because it. >> looks like. >> many people. >> already forgot. >> what had happened. >> what a. >> brutal invasion, what a. >> crime of aggression against our country. >> absolutely unjustified aggression against and killing of. hundreds of

bucha has become a notorious symbol of russian brutality. the russians took it over within days of invading. and in the month that followed, they killed more than 400 civilians, according to ukrainian officials, leading to global accusations of war crimes. images from that time ricocheted around the world. the priests left dead in a garage, his mouth open. the church choir singer and his family, their limbs cut off, their bodies burned. the woman shot dead, pushing her bicycle home. many people in bucha seem to be struggling to take in donald trump's comments. now he's going to help the russians. asked one woman. they destroyed everything here. and now we're supposed to give up? how does that work? then she answered her own question. if america leaves us, we are screwed. end quote. >> yeah. >> what are americans left to think about? about brutality. and about war crimes carried out by someone trump can't cozy up next to fast enough? >> this is a stain on on america. and it's an unbelievable, unbelievable betrayal of freedom loving people who

and we visited bucha. um, where senator tillis and i just went to the floor of the senate to talk about what we saw in bucha, a suburb of kyiv, where the russians came in. they held siege in that town for 33 days. they indiscriminately shot civilians. in fact, that was the target of what they were trying to do. we heard from the investigators who showed us the picture of the russian commander, who deliberately said, kill the civilians because we want to frighten the people of bucha and the people of ukraine. they committed all kinds of atrocities rape, torture and indiscriminate killing. over 500 people taking people hostage. we don't know. where a number of those citizens are today. that's the person that donald trump wants to give away the store. >> to. um. >> and it is. you never start a negotiation by giving away all your leverage at the beginning. and that's what donald trump is doing. >> and i just want to have one correction. president trump called president zelenskyy a dictator, not necessarily a t

and i believe that's bucha.h heinous war crimes and atrocities against civilians that that national security officials, you know, were emotional talking about it. i mean, people couldn't even talk about what they what they'd seen and what had happened. it happened, i think, the first month after the embarrassment of russia's botched attempted caravan to kyiv. and the reality is that that if we if we proceed with our capitulation to vladimir putin, the whole country could risk turning into bucha, and that would be on america's hands. that would be because of who we voted for, for president. and that would be on thom tillis hands, because instead of walking down to the white house and refusing to leave until donald trump talked to him, he did what john heilemann just said. he gave a speech and didn't say trump's name. >> yeah, nice speech, tom, but he had a chance to do something about this over the past few weeks during the confirmation hearings. you know, thom tillis indicated to some people, at least privately,

he's responsible for the bodies in bucha and for thousands across ukraine. and he's got to be held accountable. we cannot let him get away with t this. so i want to end by unde underlying -- underlining an important point. there is bipartisan support for ukraine in congress. i believe we will continue to support funding and that if we had another supplemental bill that came to the floor, it would pass with republican votes because americans like senator tillis and i and senator bennet who went with us, we have been impressed by the ukrainians' courage, by their resilience, by their willingness to defend their freedoms and our freedoms. they've kempt their economy -- kept their economy and their people going throughout this horrible war. but by june ukraine is going to start running out of what they need. that's why we need to use the nearly $300 billion of russian-seized assets to help ukraine rebuild. it's why i've called on secretary rubio to prioritize the waivers for unfreezing aid to ukraine. thousands of ukrainians have given their lives in the fight f

we saw that when we visited bucha, some people may remember this was a suburb of kyiv. it was under siege for 33 days held by the russians. we talked to the mayor, to the priest of the church, we saw the mass graves where we were were buried, the 500 plus people who civilians who were killed in bucha, they were killed just going about their daily lives. this is the picture of the body of one of those civilians killed. and you know how they identified her? it was her manicurist. she identified her by the manicure. we met with the investigators who showed us the picture of the russian commander who gave the order to kill the civilians. he did it because he wanted to frighten, the population. vladimir putin is responsible for this. he's responsible for the bodies in bucha and for thousands across ukraine and he's got to be held accountable. we cannot let him get away with this. so, i want to end by underlying an important point, there is bipartisan support for ukraine in congress. i believe we will continue to support funding and that if we had another supplemental bill th

we followed the human rights violations in places like bucha, the rape and the torture by the russian army. those are all facts. russia is the aggressor. ukraine is the victim in this. so we now come to a more, if you will, transactional moment. putin has a stronger hand of cards than he did a year ago or so, simply because combat is hard and russia is a much larger country with more people and resources. so that brings us to the rare earth deal that you and nick were just talking about. i think it is time to put that together. but to do it exactly as you were discussing with security guarantees for the ukrainians. >> yeah. and that is what we kind of were hearing from secretary of state marco rubio. he he this week tried to explain that and say in his words that this was this was going to be a security guarantee because the united states would be invested with ukraine. do you think that that can actually work? >> i think that is necessary, but it's insufficient to comfort the ukrainians. and more importantly, it's insufficient to deter vladimir putin. look, i'll give you three things

in bucha. all of those things that happened, the reason that putin is a war criminal and considered as such by most of the western world. >> kim dozier, thanks very much for your analysis, i appreciate it. >> thanks. >> all right. time now for sports. canada gets revenge on team usa in an overtime thriller in hockey's first ever four nations championship. there actually is some politics in this story, but i am happy to have andy schultz here to talk about the sports of it all. good morning andy. >> yeah, good morning casey. >> so the four nations tournament, you know, was supposed to be just an all star exhibition, but, i mean, it really turned into an olympic gold medal type of atmosphere. both the u.s. and canada, you know, wanting to win this game very badly. and president trump even calling the team before to give him a pep talk. >> i'm a. >> hockey fan, i love hockey. the talent, the skill that you have is crazy and just go out, have a good time tonight. and i just want to wish you a lot o

i saw in bucha the mass aves when senator portman and i went there, i w the burned out apartment buildings in irpin. i saw the presidential. building where zenskyy is surrounded by sandbags and burrowed in there for year after ye after year, and the injured soldie and the people that come to minnesota to get prosthetic legs. i've seen it all. and for them to not even admit the truth is just disgusng. at this momentn our country's history. and i'm just glad i have. i do believe while our collgues on the republican side of the aisle has refused to stand up to some of these nominees that have been put forward, like kash patel day, except for two of them, senator murkowski, murkowski and senator collins. i do beeve they he come out pretty strongly when it comes to good guys and bad guys in this war, and the russianare the bad guys. you have senator the, who is the leader, there's no question who started the r. russia is the aggressor hereso we need to hear more of thatand then they need to put the presre on the president. this should be a pressure campaigngainst russia with our allies, not a c

accusations that russian troops were involved in brutalities, including mass rape, in places like bucha. so when you tell a ukrainian that they started the war, they look at you with with shock and disbelief and a degree of horror, considering what they've been through for the last three years, and a commander of this unit that i was speaking to said that it is having an impact on morale, it is lowering morale. and that is a very costly thing. when troops are still in the midst of a very hard fight. >> tell you, those are sentiments unfortunately shared by many of us around the world. i'm hearing that ukraine started the war. richard engel, thank you very much for the live report. the vatican says pope francis is resting and his condition remains stable as he is battling pneumonia in both lungs. it's going to bbc's claudio lavanga, who is in rome for us, where the pope is hospitalized. claudio. so i think this sounds like at least a bit of good news. give us the latest. >> hey, alex. yes. it sounds like good news. in the last hour, the vatican said that the clinical condition of the pop

europe who are supporting us, who are standing with us when we understand that what we have seen in bucha, in mariupol, exactly what the peace deal with russia mean to us and what they are capitulating to russia would mean to us, we will keep fighting. we understand what's at stake, and we will not take the deal. that is not in the interest of ukrainian people. >> as i always say to you, i wish you safety. i know that you were on the air recently and there was more incoming fire from russia, so we hope you stay safe. >> thank you jim, and glory to ukraine. >> well, time now for a look at sports. tiger woods paid an emotional tribute to his late mother as he returns to competitive golf. carolyn manno has this morning cnn's sports update. tell us about that moment. good morning jim. well. >> tiger woods. >> withdrew from last week's genesis invitational, where he's the tournament host, saying that it was just too soon to play after losing his mother. and last night, the 15 time major champion returned for the event, the indoor golf league that he helped. >> to create. three weeks ago, woods