at first there was shock , refusal to believe, then when bucha gostomel mariupol destroyed peaceful ukrainianies, killing adults and children, torture from rape, until the end we could not imagine that our neighbors were capable of such but now we realized we faced fascism in its purest form, which in terms of cruelty sometimes exceeds even german nazism of the 20th century marathon continues the only news on the air column accent my name is oleksiy fadeev and accent today we let's address the question of how russian fascism arose and how it will end, and our guests today are serhii puzan, head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, congratulations and dmytro zolotukhin, executive director of the institute of post-information society . congratulations, gentlemen. so, the first question for you is , in your opinion, when did it start with what started russian fascism? i think it is necessary to understand here that russian fascism and chauvinism in general are the consequences of that imperialism, which , actually, the russians professed during the entire time of their existence