>> guest: the buchanan administration was in power until march 4. they had to deal with the secession of the first seven southern states in the lower south. they had to figure out what would be the position that would take. the position during that was called the secession winter was that we should do everything we can to encourage the upper southern states, virginia, north carolina and tennessee, for example to stay in the united states. how could we do that by encouraging the union which was very strong. there were a number of compromises put forward at this time and among them was the first 13th amendment. do you know about that amendment? you don't. that was the amendment that had the support of southern union nest, and many northern politicians, including men that would be considered abolitionists politicians but who believed, as most northerners did, there is nothing that the north could do to stop slavery in the south because it was constitutionally protected. they wanted to prevent its extension the western territories. this amendment, the f

>> the buchanan administration was in power through march 4th and they had to deal with of secession of the first seven states and had to figure out the position that you would take a nap was called the secession winter - - printer that we would do all that we could virginia or north carolina and tennessee to stay in the united states how to redo that? the union investment was strong so to put that forward at this time do you know about that amendment to have the support of many northern politicians including men that would be considered abolitionists' politicians nothing the of north could do to stop slavery in the south because it is constitutionally protected but this amendment was floated and gradually became coalescing around the amendment and perpetuity in those states where it existed the 13th amendment you could never abolish slavery but james buchanan signed off and congress passed it to and i believe in three states began the process by that time for sumpter happened. it is a story that should remind us to not assume about the past to stop the war they did not want with gre

buchanan. you work in the nixon administration. the reagan administration, do you ever see it this bad? the media list of abusive bias, correct, i've never seen it this bad? >> first i thought sean spicer was very gracious in his departure. but to let me tell you, this is as bad as it was in thehe final days of watergate with richard nixon. though tremendous hostility of the press, the media, any of those press conference looking like things were in the forum, and i think the real problem here is that the president senses that the 80 you are the enemy, and i think the media if you watch all three networks and the major networks of the press,

. >> pat buchanan is a guy who worked in the nixon administration and pushing nixon to the right. 's worst nightmare. he starts talking to the american people who are feeling a little unsure as the reagan prosperity engine sputters. >> while george bush was an excellent foreign policy is president, he was not a good politician. >> to get to that. >> let me quote the words of one leader. >> pick this up or take it out of my pocket. >> george bush was a little awkward. it's like he's pretending to be a politician. he did not look forward to the '92 election. >> public criticism of his foreign travels, his trip to japan was about jobs. the result was hardly what his image makers hoped for. >> the lone camera in the dining room was locked in on the head table when president bush was overcome by nausea and fell trd. it appears he lost consciousness as he toppled over on to his host. >> this man who had overseen the soft landing of the cold war, who was chander in chief for a brilliant victory against iraq would be viewed as a weak leader. he vomited into the lap of the japanese prime mi

as a response to the watergate, roger ailes was the media consultant f or the nixon administration, with pat buchanan. , negativity.aid planned ass hub inative information 1972. they have gone to great lengths to discredit all of the media. now we are seeing the repercussions of that. important -- in order to manipulate people, in order to do things, every dictatorship does this. you first have to shoot the messenger. you have to discredit all media. -- the mediat was was made illegal in germany and we are inching that way. do not believe them when they say they do not believe the media, they trust drudge, fox, infowars. studies confirm that fox audiences are the least informed, less informed that people who watch no cable news at all. host: you mentioned the watergate era. let's look at what bob woodward from the washington post during forum aboutid in a the media coverage of president trump. >> at the white house correspondents dinner, you made an appearance with carl bernstein, your co-author and you got huge applause for one line. you said -- mr. president, the media is not fake news. elaborate.

buchanan. you work in the nixon administration. the reagan administration, do you ever see it this bad?of abusive bias, correct, i've never seen it this bad? >> first i thought sean spicer was very gracious in his departure. but to let me tell you, this is as bad as it was in the final days of watergate with richard nixon. though tremendous hostility of the press, the media, any of those press conference looking like things were in the forum, and i think the real problem here is that the president senses that the 80 you are the enemy, and i think the media if you watch all three networks and the major networks of the press, and the media are as hostile to this president as i have seen to any president candidate in my lifetime. >> sean: so what does he do, pat? you know how hard it is inside that house, and you see them media acting this way, what do you do? >> i tell you what is coming, and i think that the president senses with regard to mueller and special counsel, he senses that these folks are coming after him. i believe they are. they are coming after his campaign, his family, and

buchanan. you work in the nixon administration. the reagan administration, do you ever see it this bad?, correct, i've never seen it this bad? >> first i thought sean spicer was very gracious in his departure. but to let me tell you, this is as bad as it was in the final days of watergate with richard nixon. though tremendous hostility of the press, the media, any of those press conference looking like things were in the forum, and i think the real problem here is that the president senses that the 80 you are the enemy, and i think the media if you watch all three networks and the major networks of the press, and the media are as hostile to this president as i have seen to any president candidate in my lifetime. >> sean: so what does he do, pat? you know how hard it is inside that house, and you see them media acting this way, what do you do? >> i tell you what is coming, and i think that the president senses with regard to mueller and special counsel, he senses that these folks are coming after him. i believe they are. they are coming after his campaign, his family, and coming after hi

administration and watergate, they all went to prison, they testified, you testified. we have a little piece of video from your testimony. you say you had your brother sit behind you. why? mr. buchanan: i had watched all the others of their and they all andll the others up there they all had these lawyers beside them. and as soon as you have a lawyer, he's got a problem, he must have done something. i did not believe i had done anything wrong, that i did need somebody, just to be with you. so i called my brother on the day i was going to testify and i said, can you go over to watergate where i live with shelley? we will go to the white house to get breakfast and then go to the committee hearing room and he came up and i said, i do not need you to sit at the table with me, but i want you to sit behind me. in the book, i think i have a picture and it's got my brother behind me there and when they would take a break, he would go back in his room with me and we would come back out to the hearing, in and out. you wanted your brother there. i did not need a lawyer. brian: i'm not sure if it's your brother behind you in the videos we have, but tell us if you know who this person is. >> the

buchanan. the first four months of our -- over here on your right -- >> oh, i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i can't stop thinking during the first four months of our current administration about nixon's final speech the morning he resigned when he said things like, those that hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself. and also he said never be petty, and he was telling people like monica crowley at the end up of his life, asking rhetorically, why did guy through the fire if others were not going to learn from my mistakes. are you afraid that the current president is doing things that is going to hand the same sort of enemies the proverbial sword so that is a nixon said to frost, they'll stick it in and twist if will relish? >> i think, yes. i think president trump has gotten the worst media i've seen of any candidate or president for the last, i'd says, 18 months of his campaign, and first four months of his presidency. there's no question about it, and the mood in washington, dc -- let me say this about all that. the things have have broken so far in termsf substance, this is no watergate. we don't have a singlcrime yet that has been alleged against the

buchanan?. >> yes. but what was brought back from the ash heap of history was the statement from 40 or 41 the only people advocating against hitler was that jewish interest of the roosevelt administration still basically the israeli government but buckley went ballistic and he is still exceptionally bitter about it. been there were many others. to have a dispute and he gets a letter that basically says you have to stand up to these people but the only problem is that you don't amend your ways. you are not helping me. so that attack was also made earlier. >> but you brought up the immigration. ronald reagan was the great amnesty president. and that was with the issue that you raise. >> so let me just announce he will be signing copies of his new book so thanks for coming. [applause]

buchanan brought back from the ash heap of history charles lindbergh's statement in 1940-41 the only people agitating for war against hitler were the british interests, the jewish interests and roosevelt administration. so he says only people that wanted to invade iraq in 1990 under the first bush, okay, basically israeli government and its amen corner in the u.s. congress. >> i remember that. >> buckley went ballistic. and basically ran buchanan out of the movement. buchanan is exceptionally bitter about it. he has a memoir out. i don't know the current volume of it. deals with his feud with buckley. there were many others. i went through, i went through the papers. he had a dispute with the anti-defamation league and getting a letter from smith and said you have to stand up to these people. mentioning doctor interrogatory names. the only problem with you mr. smith, you don't mend your ways. i'm having a fight with organization and -- [inaudible]. you know, you're not helping me. you know. i mean there was a lot of that going on. and i did my best. but the his attack was also made earlier when he drove others out. >> he wasn't an anti-semite. >> you didn't bring up anti-semitism. you brought up imm

administration and take some of these roles. >> he did make the rounds on the sunday shows today. >> yeah, that's right. >> very interesting thought there. >> let's bring in patrick buchananer white house official, communications guy, speech writer and sort of poly math in our world of politics and media. pat, explain what's going on here what just happened >> what happened was the general came in, general kelly, and he basically was rappelled by what scaramucci said and how he said it and what he said about his colleagues this is not the kind of operation or individual that the general wants in his operation, and he exercised immediate and swift and decisive command and got rid of an individual, and it sends a message i think out to the country that you have a man in charge who is the chief of staff, who does decide on people who are, even those close to the president of the united states, i think it's an extremely healthy sign of the potential of the general. the general's job is obviously going to be a very, very tough one, bringing that staff under control and frankly moving to bring order, discipline and a chain of command to the white house, but his first step was d