buckley. i am not trying to be william f. buckley. and that legacy is such a heralded legacy.al respect for his legacy and what he brought to the table but i am not him and will not try to be him. >> stephen: it was a conservative show with conservative arguing with all sorts of people-- political, cultural. do you consider yourself a conservative? >> i consider myself a conservative to a certain extent. i moonlight as an l.g.b.t. advocate. i run an l.g.b.t. advocacy organization that works with republicans. ( applause ) we work with republicans and we make the case that freedom means freedom for everyone, and where that really lends itself at this moment in time is to securing full civil rights protections to l.g.b.t. americans because there are still 28 states where you can be fired for being gay, and it's things republicans don't know. it's mostly in red states. there are many people who are socially conservative who would not say i am conservative because of those views. >> stephen: what is your conservatism? what's the root of it? >> well, the history of the modern americ

buckley's "firing line" for a new generation.or a longtime admirers of the program, rest assured i plan to honor the high standards buckley set and will never compromise content for cleverness. now, throughout "firing line's" 33-year history, this program's host would evaluate the state of the modern american conservative movement, its progress, its pitfalls, its successes, and now, in 2018, its survivors and casualties. today, my guest will join that tradition. ohio's 69th governor john kasich is every liberal's favorite conservative and every conservative's never-trumper. >> [ laughs ] >> he came to washington amidst reagan's conservative revolution and culminated his 18 years in congress in the gingrich revolution. as chairman of the house budget committee, he worked across the aisle to balance the budget and reform welfare. some have said he got out of congress when the going was good. and as governor of ohio, he claims the conservative successes of cutting income taxes and balancing budgets, which helped him win re-election

one person that bill buckley did not like it all was gore vidal. most the time he was a gracious person and always but gore but all would try anyone. but he did say this funny thing that you quote and the next phase which is he wrote the only person who can never escape a boar is a man who needs his vote and i love that. >> guest: by the way, from his great novel i think the best novel about washington called washington dc. >> host: i think i read that a million years ago. you quoted that because you iran for state senate. >> guest: i ran for -- i was going to run for u.s. senate and i sort of dabbled in that and dropped out and i did run for insurance commissioner. >> host: how did that go. >> guest: i am here which means i did not win. my other favorite quote of gore but all is never give up an opportunity to have sex or be on television. classic gore that all. i still have the political bug and when you got it you have to scratch it or have the political agenda scratch it so i was always thinking about maybe i can run for state assembly or maybe

but here's a great line from bill buckley. he said one man sees a buzz coming and pushes a little old lady into the path of a bus. another nancy's advice come and pushes a little old lady out of the path of the bus and they're both condemned for pushing little old ladies around. it really matters why you are doing something. >> guest: right. i would agree. by the way, bill buckley, i loved, he was a friend of my, debated him on crossfire and we had some good times together. i admired him a lot, but i didn't agree with him on everything obviously. i think that's a simplistic approach to our foreign-policy latin america which as i say, overall is still not that good today. i never saw again the idea that danielle was a friend of the del, i think the dell was for the cuban people than -- and danielle was better than what i've get gets in an article abt the economic status of cuba compared under castro. >> guest: i'm always willing to learn more. as you know, then within is the whole iran-contra think that i just thought we should

bill buckley, my old mentor, used to say that this argument you made it that was so did we, suddenly it was interbeing for completely different purposes. let me get the let me get it out. there may be -- i may give you an element of that but it was not the primary reason. the fact is most of the time the united states when it did intervene was doing so to stop an even worse regime from taking power. even worse and we don't always get to pick an ideal beautiful democratic regime but here is the great mind from bill buckley he said one man touches a little old lady into the path of the bus and another man sees a bus coming in just the little old lady out of the pass of the bus and they are both condemned for pushing old ladies around. it really matters why you are doing something. >> guest: i would agree. by the way, bill buckley i love and he's a friend of mine going to be debated on crossfire and we had good times together. i admire him a lot but i did not agree with him on everything. it is a simplistic approach to foreign policy which is that overall it is still not that good today

but here's the great line from bill buckley. he said one man sees a bus coming in pushes a little old lady into the path of what the bus another one sees it and pushes the little old lady out of the path of the bus. they're both condemned for pushing little old ladies around. so it really matters why you're doing something. >> guest: i agree. by the way bill buckley i love. we had some good times together. i admired him a lot. but i did not agree with him with everything. i think it's a simplistic approach to our foreign policy which is that overall it's still not that good today. the idea that danielle was a friend of fidel's, i think fidel was better for the cuban people and danielle was better than -- was. >> guest: then you get into the whole iran-contra thing but if they wanted to throw the sandinistas out which they did, find that was their choice. >> host: as long as the government -- luckily, it turned out differently. i'm partial you have a great quote in here from somebody, have to mention it now because we just say bi

i want to go "outfront" now to annapolis, to the mayor of annapolis, gavin buckley. thank you for being rit us. a terrifying and tragic story happening in your city. hard to imagine. can you tell us anything that you have learned tonight, mayor, about this suspect? >> i just want to first of all send our love to the families that are affected by this. we are a small community. the city of annapolis is about 38,000. and everybody knows each other in this town. and so they even let australians be mayor here. so it's a village. we're devastated. and we're especially devastated because we know the journalists. the journalists who sit through council meetings and report on us and report on our kids' sports teams and report on our cat up a tree and all that local journalism that's really important. this is one of the oldest papers in the kcountry so it's a devastating day. >> mayor, we understand he was not cooperative at first, that he, as you heard evan perez saying, his fingerprints appeared to be altered. it was unclear as to why. he didn't have an i.d. at this point,

conservative intellectuals and activists like william buckley, the editor and founder of the national warned that proponents of detente were falling for fake soviet overtures and in turn making agreements like the salt agreement that would weaken the united states. the new phyllis lashley report talked about the "fraud of detente." by 1975, president ford was starting to back down from his staunch support of this policy. under nixon, the administration had undertaken the policy of vietnamization, which had combined an intense secret bombing campaign and a gradual withdrawal of troops from vietnam. the problem for ford was that the strategy didn't work. and the aftermath was going to be a political problem for the president. the south was falling to communism after this long and devastating war. the fall of south vietnam to communism in 1975 and the unification of vietnam was a huge blow to the ford white house, right as it was fighting this battle with conservatives over detente. although president ford blamed the democratic congress, presidential advisors were shrewd enough to know t

. >> he fits into a tradition if you think about people like bo buckley and what bo buckley meant foronservative thought in this country. you come to people like bill sapphire who came out of nixon administration. >> he began as a walter mondale speech writer and new republic writer. it was krauthammer the word smith who coined the bush derangement sin dronel. and krauthammer who defined reagan foreign policy. >> he invented the reagan doctrine not reagan. it codified when a lot of sort of feelings that people on the right had. >> krauthammer took plenty of flack for his steadfast support for the iraq war. and was very tough on president obama. yet, he was equally comfortable taking swipes at hillary clinton. >> what she needs are lying lessons from her husband who is one of the great liars of all time. to do it with a smile and charm. >> and at donald trump. >> presidents don't talk like this. they never have. this is what it sounds like when you are living in a banana republic. >> he praised president trump as well. the game for him was philosophical not partisan. his conservatism w

as attention election that opened the way toward an interesting debate format in american william buckley went on to host fire i and other shows and there was intelligent debate but then i guess under reagan they passed the fairness and media law which opened the way toward the rush limbaugh's who are just totally partisan and you are not required by law to have an opposing viewpoint right and so year and a veteran of this industry did that what did that do it seems my point being that it open the way to this hyper partisanship polemicist fox news drivel but what is your view what you think you're exactly right so when you want to figure out how an industry works follow the money now you've got more and more outlets that are preaching to the converted telling people what they already want to hear that are paid for by brands that want to reach that particular demo so a lot of that because we're going to i'm a right when you talk about these hot topic issues political issues everyone knows the wedge words and the buzzwords and they they're no one ever has a meaningful insight into the debat

news is it's all basically polemicists that's right there's no debate we were talking about william buckley earlier and his debate with the gore of the doll during the nine hundred sixty eight presidential as a dench election that opened the way toward an interesting debate format in american william buckley went on to host fire i and other shows and there was intelligent debate but then i guess under reagan they passed the fairness and media law which opened the way toward the rush limbaugh those who are just totally partisan and you are not required by law to have an opposing viewpoint right and so year and a veteran of this industry did that what did that do it seems my point being that it open the way to this hyper partisanship polemicist fox news drivel but what is your view what you think you're exactly right so when you want to figure out how an industry works follow the money now you've got more and more outlets that are preaching to the converted telling people what they already want to hear that are paid for by brands that want to reach that particular demo so a lot of that becaus

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george will, william f buckley.for me, a guy most people, not a household name anymore but irving kristol, who was bill kristol's dad, and profound influence on me, deep and abiding influence. i might disagree with them. i have disagreements with all of them. but those guys -- the biggest influence was my dad. my dad was a very cerebral guy. one reason i loved irving kristol's he reminded me of my dad. a little jewish intellectual whose idea of vacation was going from one side of the couch to another to read a different book or magazine. or go to europe to look at museums. one of his only favorite hobbies was going on long walks with his sons to talk about how bad communism was. those guys for sure. i could come up with some other names pretty easily but you brought up charles. i don't want to talk too much because it is bad luck to cry on c-span. the news about charles krauthammer is devastating and i know charles had a dr. strangelove persona on tv, kind of fry and stern and all that kind of stuff. more decent and

conservative intellectuals and activists like william buckley, the editor and founder of the nationalw, warned that proponents of detente were falling for fake soviet overtures and in turn making like the salt agreement, that would weaken the states. the new letter, the report, talked about the, quote, fraud of detente. by 1975, president ford was back down from his staunch support of this policy. nixon, the administration had undertaken the policy of which hadtion, combined an intense secret gradualcampaign and a withdrawal of troops from vietnam. the problem for ford was that strategy didn't work. and is the aftermath was going to be a political problem for president. the south was falling to communism after this long and devastating war. vietnam to south communism in 1975 and the unification of vietnam was a huge blow to the ford white house, right as it was fighting conservativesth over detente. although president ford blamed democratic congress, presidential advisors were know that mucho of the public would blame him. in the days before the final evacuation, people saw military a

george will, william f buckley.for me, it's not really a household name anymore but irving kristol who was bill kristol dad had a profound influence on me. had disagreements with all of them.. those guys were big influences on me. the biggest influence was my dad. he reminded me a lot of my dad. my dad was a jewish intellectual whose idea vacation was going from one seller couch to another to read a different book or magazine or going to europe to look at museums. those guys for sure, i can come up with some other names pretty easily, but just since you brought up charles, i don't want to bring it up too much but the news about charles is just devastating. i know charles had a strange love persona on tv. a more decent and humane human being, i'm not sure you could name. he was amazing. it is a whole that i don't think never be filled without him in ourur public life. it breaks my heart that he's gone. >> you talk about people within the republican party not getting along very well. only have stuff like what happened

coming up today another massive day of football host russia will buckley that for top spot in. one of the headlines this morning e.u. leaders have how to be informal summit on the.

. >> he fits into a tradition if you think about people like bill buckley and what bill buckley meantbegan as a walter mondale speech writer before his views evolved. it was krauthammer who coined bush syndrome. he defined president regan's foreign policy. >> it codified what a lot of ceilings that people on the right had. >> krauthammer took plenty of flack for the iraq war. he was comfortable taking swipes at hillary clinton. >> she needs lying lessons from her husband, to do it with a smile and charm. presidents don't talk like this, they never have. this is what it sound like when you are living in a banana republic. >> but he occasionally praised president trump. his conservativism was never about getting republicans elected. he loved baseball and "in defense of the f-word." he was unable to type, but rarely spoke of his disability. >> you are betraying your whole life if you don't say what you think. >> he was never nasty, a contrast to the name calling today. as a trained medical doctor, he used a scalpel, not a sledgehammer. in that sense he lifted everyone's game. >> shannon:

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. >> if you think of people like bill buckley and what bill buckley meant for conservative thought, bill >> reporter: began as a walter mondale speechwriter in the republic writer. it was a wordsmith, bush arrangement syndrome for his fiercest critics and defined president reagan's foreign-policy. >> it codified a lot of amorphous feelings people on the right hand. >> reporter: he took flak for his support for the iraq war and was tough on pres. obama but equally comfortable taking swipes at hillary clinton. >> she needs glasses from her husband, one of the great liars of all time, could do it with a smile and china. >> reporter: donald trump. >> presidents don't talk like this, they never had. this is what it sounds like when you are living in a banana republic. >> reporter: he praised donald trump as well, the game was philosophical, not partisan, conservatism was never about getting republicans elected. he ranged widely as a writer of beloved baseball to a defense of the f word. he dictated his column because he was unable to type but rarely spoke of his disability. >> you are betrayi

mayor gavin buckley, thank you. >> thank you so much for having me.house issues a deadline ordering the justice department to comply with subpoenas over the russia investigation. some conservatives even threatening to take drastic measures against deputy attorney general rod rosenstein if they do not get the documents they want in one week, next. we had long deployments in iraq. i'm really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. it was my very first car accident. we were hit from behind. i called usaa and the first thing they asked was 'are you ok?' they always thank you for your service, which is nice because as a spouse you serve too. we're the hayles and we're usaa members for life. see how much you could save with usaa by bundling your auto and home insurance. get a quote today. >>> news just in to cnn, president trump's controversial pick to lead the u.n. migration agency has been voted down at its geneva headquarters. ken isaacs came under scrutiny after a report from cnn's own kay file earlier this ye

we have david buckley. dave is managing director in kpmg's federal practice, where specializes in investigations, forensic risk ations, and mitigation strategies for business operations. former inspector general of central intelligence agency, in the i.g. erved offices at both the department of the treasury and the defense, and, as a law enforcement professional in office of r force special investigations. in congress, he served as the staff director of the house permanent select committee the telligence, and as chief investigator on the senate's permanent subcommittee investigations, more commonly known as psi. extremely say i was lucky to have dave as a league psi and ing my time as uring my time at -- and i can outstanding.s we also have kathy buller. i.g. of the as peace corps since 2008. prior to that, she served for 32 ears within the i.g. community i.d.i.g., and the assistant i.g. resource management. served as chief counsel to the social security administration prior to becoming i.g.eace corps show

dave in buckley was livthis morning on fox 5.i i can'tne what it's like but i have to commend these guys for their, dedica journalists, don't make l a of money in small towns, and theye do it bse they just love journalism and i was saying how, you know, who e wouldect thatr that would be in job training. trying to be at a teacher you think you got to worry about someone coming into a classroom. you try to be a journalist and worrying about someone coming t your newsroom. i don't know what's hpening to our society but we need to resei and do sng about it. >> the capital gazette publish the paper with the front page bearing the photos of the five slain employees. >> president of museum institute is joining to his talk us, gene, good to see you >> under other circumstances i would have passed on this one day >> i understand that. i think yesterday when we heard the news andn whe it started to play out and understand the gravity of the situation, it strikes us here, struck us here very,ickly. >> it's just leunconscionab someone would

i do know mayor gavin buckley annapolis was supervi and in charge of participating in an active shooter training at saint mary's highlo school oneck down from the city hall in annapolis. that happened a week ago. that wasas reported -- that w reported on the front pagof the capital gazette. mayor buckley in his briefing today said that he was glad they had just gone through itus beca the response was accurate and responsive. >> okay. so, not the paper itself, you're talking about the mayor said, you know, some of the city officials had gone through that. .go ahead >> john, i was just curious in terms of -- you go in there from time to time and i think one thing a lot of peopledo t understand is a lot of people talk about the media, the media, the media. you know -- >> sure. capital are reallyithesee community instions where -- y >> exactly. ouame ivtgson report your neighbors' news. uno about the media, you don't think of local community papers like -- like thecapital. >> exactly. the capital keeps up -- keeps upith local news. we've just went through the primary election cle. they endo

joining me on the phone, the mayor of annapolis, zbafin buckley. thank you for joining us. i couldn't believe you when i heard you at the press conference discussing that early whier this week, tuesday, you were participating in an active shooter drill? >> that's right. we had a drill at one of the local high schools. it was a coordinated evident. it's not something you actually think you are doing to be implementing. it was shocking. i was pulled out of a conference. it was an amazing response by all the municipalities. >> what can you tell us. i know you have as many questions, and the people of annapolis have a lot of questions. this is on national tv it is a national scourge that we continue to cover mass shootings, but for annapolis this is even bigger. >> yau. we kind of accept this as the new normal. we have to look at what is motivating people to do this. this is a small town. this newspaper, we know those journalises. they are our friends. so when this stuff happens, it is a shocking turn of events. >> what do you do in annapolis on a night like this? we have discu

buckley jr. some will breathe a sigh of relief.gorous contest of ideas to television for 33 years, longest running television host in history. nobody gives him credit for that. it's extraordinary and that's the tradition we're trying to do. bring back a really respectful exchange of ideas, so few places on television do you get to just be with one person for 30 minutes and do a deep dive on a single topic. >> you'll stick with a real long discussion in depth. >> in our media climate which is so fractured, a lot of people end up going to podcasts or other places for a deep dive on a single idea and that's what we'll return to television. thanks to william f. buckley jr. >> he was a legend as i said, conservative legend. you also come i guess from republican royalty. the great granddaughter of president hoover. >> it is a legacy that i am in the "firing line" legacy. i certainly understand what it's like. a lot of people care about carrying that torch forward and approach it with a lot of honor because i inherited my own and care so

it is in annapolis outside the city limits but the mayor gavin buckley on the scene with the governor larry hogan. this is a newspaper we deal with every day in the city of annapolis and older newspaper in the country and our hearts and thoughts are with the families. >> and you said that the mayor of annapolis is on location with the governor. are they expecting to brief reporters? are they just gathering information? >> they are. yeah. they're going to be briefing reporters soon. they'll be together and having a media briefing i think shortly. >> is there anything you can tell us about the number of casualties in this event? we have heard that from law enforcement sources that there were fatalities. is there anything that you can tell us? >> i can't confirm any numbers. i can confirm that i have heard from several reporters that i deal with that they are okay. there were a few on vacation. so that's good news. but i can't confirm any numbers for you. >> all right. thank you so much, susan o'brien and our thoughts are with the people of annapolis city and county today, especially tho

mr buckley who is here now you tell me that this. newspaper was an integrity part of this community how and where is the capital of that so the people that work for this news for this editor that they're our friends you know we see them like the local news they cover city hall. we have intimate relationships with all of them we know the first responders that went into the buildings that ran towards this is a small community thirty thousand people live in the city most of the five hundred thousand in the county but that the the town center really revolves a lot of around this newspaper and that's how we keep informed and we know that the suspect in this case had some sort of grudge against this paper but this was a not incendiary in any sense that the type of things i think were published can you describe the sort of stories that normally would appear you know what's so frustrating about this this incident is that this is not a left wing paper it's not a right wing pipe it's just a local. local community and it's one of the oldest pip

to france to convince european countries to drop support for the iran nuclear deal but as natasha buckley reports from paris french president among your micron was not convinced. benjamin netanyahu i arrived at the lease say for talks with a man who will not call just a few hours after iran had announced it was increasing its uranium enrichment capacity the israeli prime minister said the move was proof that tehran holds nuclear weapons netanyahu is in europe to urge either leaders to stop supporting the twenty fifty iran nuclear deal. and a cool that he's convinced will collapse i didn't ask france to withdraw from the just because i think the jews who is basically going to. be dissolved. by the way the economic forces but i think that there are two possibilities either iran dismantles its nuclear activities unilaterally under this pressure or there may be in the future in negotiations for better. a better deal the french president said the iran nuclear deal wasn't perfect but should remain the basis for a wider agreement if you don't because there's a need if we think it's not enough it

>> no, but i just spoke to the mayor of annapolis, gavin buckley and before that the director of emergey management services and their information is what you've been reporting in terms of the number of dead, the number of accasualties. the f that we still don't know the motive of the shooter and the shooter's apparently not cooperating with law enforcement. to my knowledge, they've not yet sort of done a search of the shooter's social media find out what the motive may be. but i do just want to salute the first responders who were souickly on the scene as i mean, you have thatrt ers a all around you. i mean, this is the capital gazette. i've been to this location. bill davis who is crime reporter who was tweeting out is somebody that i've known and he is ate great repor and it's just awful to see anybody or any entity become a target like this in this instance it's just a local treasure. this is how the community in annapolis and anneco arrundel ty, you know, gets its ne about wha happening at te local high school, what's happening in city government, and so our hearts are with everybod

mayor gavin buckley had this to say. >> they are our friends, we are grieving for these guys was they come to city council meetings, listen to boring politicians, they don't make a lot of money. just immoral. >> reporter: hitting this community so hard. governor larry hogan called this his hometown newspaper issuing a statement saying he is devastated and, quote, there is no place in our society for this kind of hatred and violence. the individual responsible for this horrendous crime must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i remember covering governor hogan a few months ago in a shooting in southern maryland not far from here at a high school. this community reeling but the "capital gazette" showing resilience and defiance publishing their paper today with those victims on the cover. we expect some point this morning some sort of news conference to tell us what else they learned. a search a few hours ago happened that jarrod ramos's house. rob: unbelievable to hear what could be the motive. jillian: first responders receiving praise for swift action responding to the sce

sally buckley.ir warnings that they are giving and keeping in touch with our guests on site and monitoring on an hourly basis. what advice are you giving to your guests? just to advise if they are off—site, as we are not affected by smoke we can carry on as normal for the time being but we have a procedure in place if we need to evacuate. what would be the circumstances if you needed to evacuate your camp? if we see the fire travel down the hill there is a large section of woodland behind the park which would mean we have to have our wits about us and get moving quickly. as i say the wind at the moment is travelling in the other direction so that is quite positive news for us. thank you for talking to us, sally. we appreciate it. sally buckley. women could no longer be sent to prison unless they commit a serious crime under plans due to be announced by the government this morning. the ministry ofjustice says its abandoning building new women‘s prisons and instead is funding new residential women‘s c

. >> mayor gavin buckley, our thoughts are with you this morning. please let us know how we can help, and thank you for the first responders there. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> that mayor obviously still dealing with the aftermath, noting how the first responders were working hours later. noting how the reporters from "the capital gazette" are reporting on themselves even as they are watching their friends murdered. >> we are hearing again and again how tight-knit this community was. we need to work together. but this went deeper than that. this is a paper that was -- is absolutely a part of this community. and to hear the mayor talk about the fact that, look, we're all in this together. we all have the same goal at the end of the day. we want good schools and clean water and we want our trash picked up. there is a conversation that needs to happen. >> there is. the last line of the brief note they put on, that we might be better citizens. and the editorial page editor, he said he treated every city council race like it was a presidential rac

buckley? i think you are first at the podium. >> thank you very much eleanor, senator levin, it is a pleasure to see you again. linda, bob, and the staff of the levinson that, thank you for holding this important event today. as you heard, i spent decades in government, most of my time in government was in an oversight capacity, both on the hill and inside the executive branch. i will specifically talk about becoming -- because you have a lot of ig's this morning, the time at the central intelligence agency because i think it will give you a little bit of perspective, little difference between what a 1978 ig authority has with relationships with congress versus an intelligence community inspector general. as mike horowitz said, we are bound by law. that is a good thing. our authorities are in the statute, and our limitations are broadly in the statute as well. as the central intelligence agency, the law really died our relationship with congress -- guide our relationship with congress and the

dignity and you always knew you were in the presence of a superior intellect.i think he ranks with bill buckley- - crystal is one of the top conservative intellectuals of the last 50 years. he was one of the great defenders of our civilization and he represented what was best about it. his voice will be missed and never replaced. >>chris: is there one story from your days as a college graduate dealing with charles krauthammer? >> i once inserted a typo late one was almost going to print. i had to tell him this the next day. he wasn't mean or nasty about it but i remember still, he said why did you do it? [laughter] like i killed my mother. we came to joke about this over the years. >>chris: you were on the other side facing charles krauthammer and it always struck me that whether you agreed with him or not, charles wasn't always like i think we would agree. if you ignored him, you missed out on an important part of the national conversation. >> without a doubt. it comes to mind because i was on the opposite side that people talk about wayne gretzky or michael jordan as knowing where the puck or

buckley, for me, guy that most people don't really dishes not a household name anymore butter irvingcrystal. i had disagreements with all of them, but those guys were big -- tom sole another, a big influence on me. the biggest influence on me was my dad. my dad was very cerebral guy. irving crystal reminded me of my dad his idea of a vacation was going from one side of the koch of the other to read a different book or magazine or go to europe to look at museums and his idea -- one of his only favorite hobbies was going on lock walks with his sons to talk about how bad communism was. but those guys for sure. i can come up with some other names pretty easily but -- just since you brought up charles, i don't want to talk about him too much because it's a bad look to cry on c-span, but the news but charles krauthammer is devastating and the thing that people dish know that charles had sort of this dr. strangelove persona, wry and -- a more decent and humane and -- mench like -- he is an amazing man it and is a hole that i don't think can ever be filled without him in our public life, and

we are told by the mayor, the mayor of annapolis, gavin buckley, just said there are three wounded. and five would have been killed. the number of injured we have herd was as high as seven. so at least this is a far better number than that. the three wounded. your thoughts on the shooting itself. >> well, first of all, you have got five families that are dealing with something when they started the day, a beautiful day in the summer on the east coast, a beautiful city in annapolis. i can't imagine having to go through that. it sounds like law enforcement gave the proper training and put that in place and the raped response. these are men and women who step in the line of fire. run into the situation, totally unlike what happened in southern florida. and you have got to be proud of those families. they put their lives on the line for just this moment. and it sounds like they did a wonderful job. but it's the shooter and the shooter alone that we need to blame. and we need to learn more about him or her as soon as possible. it sounds like it's a male. but let's learn what happened the

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break down, i guess, and that's when the tears flowed, and thankfully our mayor of annapolis kevin buckley was there and he held me as did the city spokesman. you will not see the city of annapolis crying, but that's what i did. it was an attack on annapolis and not only that, it was an attack on journalism. i'm a journalist and i'm upset by this. >> help journalists understand the unique culture of a small newsroom like this. >> we all know everyone in annapolis. we know the news makers, we know those that write about the news makers and those that photograph the news makers and those that -- those journalist ths th do that, we all know one another and we're on stories together. wendi and i rose up in the freelance ranks of the capital together. she stayed at the capital, i moved on. this is horrific what happened, and we should all be upset and we should all remember those five names. they shouldn't have died. and as i explained to my 16-year-old who was leaving in a week to go study journalism, this is not normal. this isn't how i grew up. john, this isn't how you grew up. this could ha

we are told by the mayor, the mayor of annapolis, gavin buckley, just said there are three wounded. and five would have been killed. the number of injured we have herd was as high as seven. so at least this is a far better number than that. the three wounded. your thoughts on the shooting itself. >> well, first of all, you have got five families that are dealing with something when they started the day, a beautiful day in the summer on the east coast, a beautiful city in annapolis. i can't imagine having to go through that. it sounds like law enforcement gave the proper training and put that in place and the raped response. these are men and women who step in the line of fire. run into the situation, totally unlike what happened in southern florida. and you have got to be proud of those families. they put their lives on the line for just this moment. and it sounds like they did a wonderful job. but it's the shooter and the shooter alone that we need to blame. and we need to learn more about him or her as soon as possible. it sounds like it's a male. but let's learn what happened the

that was, again, for everybody -- our acting chief, if major of annapolis, mayor gavin buckley. >> so the city sends its love and thoughts for all the families that have been affected by this horrible event. i want to commend our first responders for getting on the scene as quickly as they did and if they were not there as quickly as they did, it could have been worse. i have to say, it was a great joint effort by everybody. this is what we train for. a week ago we practiced for an active trainer situation. we couldn't have put any more resourc resources. if you look, a tremendous reresponse. >> [question inaudible] >> we can't confirm that. i'll hand it back to you. >> you can't give us a number of how many people? what's going on? >> at this point, we're still reuniting people with families and we're interviews the suspect. we don't want to put that information in jeopardy. that information will come out shortly. >> do you know if the gunman acted alone? >> we have one suspect. i'd like to introduce our state's attorney. >> good afternoon. we're on the scene to assist with the fanta

i've worked with commander buckley. yeah. >>commissioner cleaveland: well, thank you very much. amazing program. i think everyone that's involved with it and all the volunteers out there should be proud of themselves, helping not only to protect themselves and the city but others, so that's a greater calling. so thank you very much for your presentation, and we'll want to hear from you again. >> thank you, commissioners, and the president. thank you. thank you, chief. >>commissioner cleaveland: madam secretary, may we have the next item? >> clerk: public comment. >>commissioner cleaveland: oh, do we have any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam secretary, next item. >> clerk: item five, current department report, chief hayes-white, on current activities in the department since the commission meeting on june 13, 2018 including budget, academies, special events, upcoming retiermt -- no, communications -- tirement, communications and outreach to other agencies in the public, and administration, report on the administrative division, fleet and fa

buckley quote. people who compare the kgb to the cia, it's basically like saying that the person who pushes an old lady out of the way of a hurtling bus is the same as the guy who pushes an old lady in front of a hurtling bus, because either way, you're pushing old ladies around. that's what donald trump is doing. when he says yeah, putin kilts people, but hey, america kills people too. that is an utter insult for america. we do not do the things that vladimir putin and north korea do. and to suggest that there is a moral equivalence is utterly unpatriotic, and it's an attack on this country. and i think every patriotic american, but especially conservatives should be outraged by that. >> butalso, it's the same thing, though, if you look at what happens when you say fine people on both sides. i know people are -- charlottesville. >> yeah, but think about what you want about antifa. it literally means anti-fascism. when you say people who are fighting anti-fascism are the same as neo-nazis, it's exac