buddy we both understand talking points of both side. bill: put new york in too. that is very interesting lineup, bradey, buddy -- >> i meant that affect shun atly. >> i'm not saying, i'm in the camp that believes donald trump will be a competitive race. but he opens up a number of other areas. if you think about arizona, think about texas, you think about the whole southwest of this country where he is offended large swaths of population. if you want to put donald trump's integrity against hillary clinton's i'll take that any day of the week. there is so much to dive -- >> i'm not taking you to atlantic city. that is a sad bet, my friend. bill: tony, hang on. brad, when you make that case, and donald trump starts going after the emails, and the server, and the money in the clinton foundation, i mean how do the american people view that? brad? >> you're talking to me? bill: yeah. >> well, first of all, i think polls have shown people are over that. i mean the benghazi investigation is petering, petering out on capitol hill because it was a disaster for republicans. bill: i said emails and server and m