tip would show up at the west wing of the white house to have a bourbon with his old buddy jerry. that does not happen anymore and we find that the parties are 98. [inaudible] there is very little cross fertilization of ideas or realistic compromise and something has got to give. i don't know what it will be but i will tell you this, unless and until we do that we are going to have these types of crises which are showing up periodically for an indefinite period. right now in discussions with respect to what essentially is going to be the budget deal, we find out that everyone is thinking well we can do a little bit. what it needs is something far broader. as i have always said this problem we are dealing with day in the economy and the budget was essentially solved by simpson-bowles back several years ago and i recall very vividly saying when i saw that proposal come up from a bipartisan group of people, and was very rapidly accepted by all professionals, saying this is terrific. we can all work from here. it never happened and the reason it never happened basically is that we hav