buddy miller was all over the place, one of the bands i saw him play in, he was the drummer. and buddy's a monster guitar player and singer and it just cracks me up that he was drumming, he can do anything. so i got to know everybody and we became friends. and julie miller as well. who was julie griffin back then. - [eric] back in the old days. - back in the old days. - now you know steve back not quite as long ago, but this relationship with steve, this record is surely born of a relation that goes back many, many years right? - [shawn] it goes back many years, although we were more or less acquainted, didn't know each other as well as we know each other now. i was aware of steve, i had guitar town. i don't know when he put it out, early 80s i believe? - [eric] you were a fan. first and foremost. - [shawn] a big fan and i met him when i opened a show for him at the iron horse in north hampton, massachusetts and i opened the show and met him down in the dressing room very briefly. that was a big thrill. he was playing solo, i was playing solo. i really didn't see much of him a