and had to do with the budget. -- it had to do with the budget. we did think a number of people but i want to reiterate that, the mayor's office and the budget office, harvey rose, the comptroller, and they did a terrific job. to the many community organizations and members who participated, department heads and their finance staff. of course to my colleagues, each one of the supervisors, supervisor campos, farrell, cohen, a supervisor wiener, supervisor chu, and my colleagues on the committee. we need to thank our neighbor partners. they had played a tremendous role in making sure that we did have enough to be able to balance the budget. i want to call out the police officers association and the firefighters who did offer wage concessions or concessions that would allow us to balance the budget. i want to thank their membership and their leadership on this. thank you. president chiu: i want to add my thanks to everyone in the room starting with our budget share. thank you for all those sleepless nights and nightmares and for putting up with every

item # two, the annual budget. [unintelligible] >> and would you call from the 1:05 scheduled meeting. >> item #one fiscal year ending june 30, 2012 and 2013. item #2, fiscal year ending june 30, 2012, fiscal year ending in june 30, 2013. item #3 no, -- >> mr. clerk, we have to the bill agendas. 1:00 and 1:05. can i take a formal motion to combine the two? >> motion. >> ok, we can do that without objection. thank you, colleagues. this is the culmination of a of a very long budget process. before we take comments from individuals and give our thanks to those who worked very hard on this, i wanted to make a motion to accept a package that you see before you. what you see before you is a summary of the budget balancing plan. it represents roughly $17.3 million worth of changes and adjustments to the budget at this time. this represents roughly $3.1 million in changes and adjustments to the public health department. 2.5 to the human services agency. 2.3 to the children, youth, and family department. small restoration t

on the budget. that is good and appropriate. i also want to echo my colleagues as far as support of the nert program. i often wished there are other ways for san francisco residence is to take part in how we keep and protect our city, whether it be working with our rec and park department, working with our libraries, and working with the first responders. we have seen how valuable it is to make sure that our entire city is prepared for the next earthquake, for the next five years, for the next disasters. i think this program is incredibly important, and we need to nurture it and protected. again, happy to support that. supervisor chu: thank you. so we do have -- we have gone to the budget analyst report, in addition to the chief's comments. thank you to the mayor's budget office for providing the update with regard to the mou conversation. we have a motion to accept the budget analyst recommendation but cannot accept the policy recommendation. do we need a roll call on that item? ok, so we will take

budget analyst? >> madam chair, for the record, it is $52,981 all general fund recommendations. >> we have that amount for the cuts being proposed that the health service system, mostly in staffing adjustments, some copy machines and specialized services cuts. the department is in agreement with that? >> efp president chiu: can we take that without objection? ok -- supervisor chu: can we take that without objection? ok, thank you very much. the next department is the public library. >> good afternoon. i am the city librarian. we are in agreement with the analyst recommendations and very much appreciate the support and the help we received from javier and kate. we're pleased with the proposed budget. supervisor chu: thank you. >> madam chair, members of the committee, the total recommended cuts are $264,486. they're not general fund reductions. supervisor chu: thank you. and to the comptroller, because these are actually savings from the library baseline, these would remain within the library's budget

>> we are in agreement with the budget closeout. supervisor chu: can you articulate the items you're not in agreement with? >> sure. they relate to travel and training. we want to get more aggressive in the training area. supervisor chu: can you point out where in the budget analyst reports they are? >> on page, i believe, it is 80. the item of training. there is an item on there for training. it adds up to $12,000. another area we're not in agreement with the budget analyst john -- on is on page 81, the other current expenses for $495,000.200 $96. i missed one. supervisor chu: we just want to make sure we understand where they are. >> also on page 81, and i am sorry, the maintenance services- equipment. supervisor chu: $246.349 in total? >> and then on page 89, the travel expenses for a total of $10,000. 58,446. supervisor chu: ok, so far what i have got. page 80, $12,000.9050 on training -- $12,900 on training. maintenance. 82, $10,000 on air travel. >> madam chair, they disagree with the $495,296 on the bottom of page 81, also. s

barrasso: the house has presented a budget, debated a budget, passed a budget. nothing in the senate for over 800 days. people tell me over the weekends you have to stop spending money we don't have, stop spending money we don't have. they say we expect better, we expect better of those who are elected to go to washington and represent us. we expect better. and the thing they also believe is that of the money that they're spending -- that they're sending to washington -- it's their money. it's not washington's money, it's their money. the money that they're sending to washington, people don't believe they are getting value for their dollar. if you said of every dollar you send in, how much value are you getting back? it's at an all-time low, less than 50 cents on the dollar people think they are getting value. people want efficient government, effective government. that's not what they are finding today. they are seeing amazing amounts of waste and fraud and abuse, but fundamentally they are not seeing a budget, a road map from which to make a plan and then live

it was my first budget process. i would like to thank my colleagues for guiding us through a fairly peaceful and good budget discussion and process. i want to take the time to think a lot of the committee folks who are an important part of this budget process. there was a budget six stakeholders group from multiple different services that really helped to guide our office in setting principles and values and also help to lead and facilitate our budget town hall meetings. one of our facilitators was here. i would like to thank the budget just as coalition for continuing to advocate for the most essential services and helping us to prioritize what our communities can and cannot live without. many groups to the time to live and reside in city hall. i would like to think the mayor's office and the budget director and also our comptroller for really working with our office and getting us through the first year. i would like to thank the mayor's office. we're working with the community and a lot of people and making june

budget, that's worth $17 million. many of the things that are important to us, making sure that we support small businesses is emphasized by allowing us to add additional resources to our office of small business, something that is very important to many of our businesses in the community. not only that, we have been able to add and will take a look at public safety in other places where we are seeing different supervisor and different boards having decisions to layoff officers. in san francisco, this board, we have prioritized making sure that public safety is a significant concern and is a top priority of this board. we cannot do that without the leadership of members of this board and all the partners to make sure that we do fund the police academy class in the coming year. again, republic comment before on the drop program and what we would expect as on retirement -- expect to see on retirement. we have been able to work very closely with our community advocates to make sure we are restoring and making adjustments

page 46 of the new budget booklet. i noticed that on page 46, on the proposed budget for 2011 and 12, there were some words that were changed and i could not figure out why they were changed. the revenues went up. it was not by much, but it went up by $300,000 or so. i do not know where that came from. the expenses went down i guess $2.50 million. i am just curious. where did we cut? and there is i guess the revenue -- these numbers below would be related to how you answer it. there is one more question. at the bottom of the page, if you could explain -- at the bottom note, there are benefits cost increases and for low savings. in the june 14 document, you have put $5,368,000. it was reduced in this document to $2,687,000. i want an explanation of how that happened. that is on page 46 and i have questions on two other pages. >> before you start, could i point out one thing? i just wanted to say that the first reading document that the vice president is pointing out -- it is true that there were some different figures t

>> a discussion of the budget. good >> we brought forth no recommendation after discussing the budget to the general board. >> thank you. i now need a reading of the resolution. superintendant. >> thank you. this is approval of the fiscal year 2011-2012 adopted -- this is the superintendent's proposal for the adoption of the fiscal year recommended budget i can just read the first paragraph. the recommended budget for the san francisco unified school district and city and county office of the education should be approved as the budget for fiscal your 2011-12, and be placed in the official files of the secretary of the board of education. the superintendent is authorized to make any transfers to correct erroneous account classifications or to affect any changes made necessary by the method of expenditures within the purpose of the appropriation. there is other boilerplate background information. president mendoza: thank you. we have quite a few public speaker signed up on this item. when i call your name, if you can

we held over 10 budget town hall meetings. we've met over hundreds of residents, community organizations. we met with city commissioners, labor organizations, business owners, and activists, and throughout all those meetings, they are able to shift some $28 million in changes to the budget. this budget not only reflects our values, it is about the future of our city. you have heard all of those that you have attended. the budget town hall meetings and meetings with our community- based agencies. you need not hear from me today again about the goal, but i do want you to hear from people who i think are our challenge and reflective of our city, so i want to invite up to the podium today three people -- three students who will talk to you in their own terms about how they feel a city can be safe, a city that can be solvent, and a city that can be successful. if i may invite zack parker to please set up to the podium. he is 8 years old. he is going into the fourth grade at sherman elementary school. he likes playing basketball and

this is my third budget. and all told, i think, over the past couple of years, including this year, we will have cut close to $1.4 billion from budgets. and what was so unique about this year was the circumstances under which we were able to come together, and i want to thank mayor lee. i want to thank our budget office and the department heads for the spirit of openness with which you worked not only with us but with all of the community stakeholders who were here. i also want to thank my colleagues, not only for all the long budget meetings and some of the late nights, but for pulling together to ensure that we are balancing this budget across all areas of government, it across all services. everyone came to this budget with the spirit of cooperation, which is what we dearly needed this time. i do want to single out one person in particular. carmen chu is not -- not only is the chu family extremely proud of you today, but i want to thank you for having taken on the work that you to go to the last few months

back to the special ed budget i had in st. paul. it was similar. the same size child care. very similar demographics in terms of ethnicity, poverty, and things like that. i actually had more teachers and about the same number of paras, and the same size budget as this. we were spending less money on some other things. it is really some of those other things we are doing now that are going to take us a while to do differently. we can do them more cost effectively. but the change cannot happen as quickly as we would like it too. it is in those areas rather than the number of teachers. we do not seem to have too many teachers. this is always its own issue. the other thing is maybe there is someone who has done a study of the general fund contributions to special lead across california districts. in minnesota, we had someone who did that kind of work on an annual basis. if we could get a hold of that, we could see if we are off track from other districts. it seems like a big number, and i do not know if it is. commissioner wynns:

budget analyst? >> madam chair, members of the committee, our recommendations that we provided last week totaled 1,460,008 $67. we're recommending cuts of 1,000,00 $

budget process thus far. supervisor chu: ok, so, the redevelopment agency is in agreement. any comments from the budget analyst on the redevelopment agency? >> no further comment other than that our total recommended reductions are $459,572, including $215,999, which are general fund reductions. supervisor chu: just a question for either the city attorney or the controller's office, do we need to do anything else to get actually these recommendations? >> supervisors, know. if they agency concurs with the budget analyst recommendations, no action is required by the board. supervisor chu: thank you. supervisor kim: just wanted to thank redevelopment on the memo on some of my questions. i still have a concern -- this is not just redevelopment, actually. it is general, any reduction in funding for workforce development and job training, but i understand we have and others that led to some of those reductions. just showing that we have a continuance of job training. >> just to clarify, the committed -- the commiss

proposed budget for this year. we are spending a lot of time going like this. almost no one else is looking at the budget either online or in printed form with both books or in front of them were both budgets available. i realize that i -- it is almost impossible unless you spend all your time doing it to know what the numbers are and where that may be significant. i actually would like to see some references, which i have to say are in the budget, which are much smaller and less complex -- someplace in the budget where it says these are the significant deviations. instead of us having to say what is that, if you said you are seeing -- last year, we did some of the flexing. we also reorganize some of the departments. i ask the question, why we had 47 counselors listed in a department and there were not there next year. there were someplace else. if those things were explained, it would be easier for us to get a handle on what we are doing differently and where the cuts are showing up in the budget. i have a couple

with the initial budget, the republican budget, it talked about those issues. it talked about tax loopholes. i am amazed, as i sit here as a new member, listening to other members talk about tax loopholes and all these things everybody is grinding their teeth about -- we should have done things years ago, last year, the year before. none of that has come to fruition. now a catastrophe stairs as in the face if we do not do anything. >> we still have questions to come from mr. fisher and scott. we have 2 votes running on the house floor. we have been here for two hours. thank you all. we hope you will be able to come back after those votes. we will reconvene for questions from the other three members of our panel, and then we will vote. the rules committee stands in recess until the ending of the second vote. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> the house rules committee voted to allow four hours of debate on deficit reduction legislation. they had four hours of debate on the legislati

i am the mayor of's budget director. i appreciate your time inviting me here to speak with you on this measure. what i am here for today is to ask your support on behalf of the mayor for a proposal that he has submitted to the board of supervisors with the intent of placing it on the ballot this coming november. the essence of the proposal is that as you all know, the state sales tax rate effective july 1st declined by 1% bringing the tax rate from 9.5% to 8.5%. this was done over the objection of the governor. we would like to get the sales tax at the existing rate. we would like to offset some of the deeper cuts that were on the table absent that extension and the extension of some other revenues at the state level. as this discussion was playing out at the capitol in sacramento, in the mayor's office, we were developing the mayor's budget proposal and looking at some of the proposed cuts that were on the table and ultimately made the decision that the uncertainty about what was going to happen in sacramento and what t

however, they continued budget tracking. the budget presides in general city obligation. now it is managed again by the city administrator's office. >> so the city administrators of this is ultimately responsible. we look forward to getting that information. what is the end date projected? it is not clear from this report. this young, if you want to answer that, that would be great. >> i do not have a clear date. i am trying to get through phase one. i am sorry. i literally inherited this project. i would tell you what i know. we know the case management systems at individual departments have been funded. we are working with them to connect to the hub. my plan for this fiscal year is to get as many of the departments, including the police department, on board. once that phase is over, i see it at the end of the project. the program, which is different from the project, certain operational functions that have to continue. maintaining the hub, mainframe, we will always have a few staff around to do that. >> so how do you intend on making sure the project gets done? >> part

mayor's budget director. it looks like there is an agreement on the state budget, but as always, the fact that items have been adopted it does not give us complete clarity on where things stand. my office, the departments are going through the proposal right now and trying to assess what the impact would be. i would say the two biggest pieces that are going to provide us some uncertainty are the proposal on redevelopment. right now, it looks like there will be a significant financial impact on the city as a result of the redevelopment proposal. there are a number outstanding legal questions about how that is actually going to be implemented. it is probably going to take as a little while to comb through what that means for us. but it does look like the proposal is either we can allow our agency to be eliminated, or if we choose not to do so, we would be obligated to pay a significant sum to the state. it will have a financial impact on the city. i am confident it will take us a little while to sort out exactl

when you budget year to year under a balanced budget, maybe that falls by the wayside. agree with you. businesses and families in the count row, they live within their means, they make decisions on balancing the household budgets, we can make the same. >> wouldn't there be a way to accommodate the unusual questions, like the subject of war. if you balance the budget, with the expectation of peace and 9/11 happens and things change. >> all balanced budgets have a contingency if there is an event of war or national security implications. so that exists. i support it. in the 1990s when the balanced budget came up, we got over 100 democrats to support that. so there is precedent for democrats supporting it. >> any estimate tomorrow for the vote in the house, how many democrats -- what would you expect -- >> i can't speak for everybody. but i have yet to talk to a committee democrat who is going to support t. i think he is going to get zero. >> really? he has to get every republican, essentially. >> that's right. >> he could lose a couple. >> the concern i have and a lot of

that are expensive and when you budget year-to-year under a balanced budget maybe some of that fallsayside. i agree with you. businesses and families in the country live within their means make decisions on how -- we can do the same in congress. >> greta: wouldn't there be some way to accommodate the expenses even war if you have a balance budget and balance it for the next cup of years with the expectation you are going to live in peace on things change. >> all the amendments have contingency for exceeding the balance cap if there is war or national security implications. that exists. again i support it. in the 90s when the balance budget came up, we got over 100 democrats to support that. so there is precedent for democrats supporting it. >> greta: any estimate tomorrow for the vote in the house? what would you expect for speaker boehner's bill? >> i can't speak for everybody. i've yet to talk to a democrat who going to support it. >> greta: he has to get every republican. >> right. the concern i have and a lot of democrats have, this bill with its doubled tiered phase-this is desi