we'd like to strengthen the budget committee. we do think there is a role there. and what we would propose is including the chairs and the rankings of the relevant committees, namely appropriations, ways and means and finance, armed services, other relevant committees, and have them sit on the budget committee. and the reason we did this is we again looked at where the bottlenecks occur. it appeared to us that there is a disconnect in the current format where those that are drafting the plan and crafting the plan are not then responsible for implementing the plan. and so the idea here would be you have the appropriations committee, the ways and means and finance committees engaged early on in crafting that plan and then going forward and carrying it out. so you're creating buy-in at the beginning of the process. and finally, as matt noted, credible, reliable information is paramount to any and all of these efforts. the budgets and appropriations process overall. we would like to see investment in and support of those institutions, congressional budget office, the j

we'd like to strengthen the budget committee. we do think there is a role there and what we would propose is including the chairs and the rankings of the relevant committees ways & means and finance, armed services and other relevant committees and have them sit on the budget committee. the reason we did this as we look to where the bottlenecks occurred. appeared to us there is a disconnect between the current format between those that are crafted are not then responsible for implementing the plan. we have the appropriation ways & means and finance committee to engage early on in crafting a plan and then going forward in carrying it out so you are creating by en's at the beginning of the process. and finally as matt noted a credible reliable information is paramount to any and all of these efforts and the budget appropriations process overall and we would like continue to support those institutions the congressional budget office the joint taxation the government accountability office recognizing also that in many ways we just exp

welcome to the committee on the budget hearing on the congressional budget office's economic assumptions, baseline construction cost estimates, this is the second of five hearings the committee plans to hold on oversight of the congressional budget office. as we discussed during our first hearing, cbo was created 40 years ago as part of the congressional budget act of 1974. since then cbo has been a vital congressional support agency providing nonpartisan budgetary analysis and directly assist the house and budget committees. these hearings with cbo are intended to help us learn how much the agency carries out its mandate supporting congress in the federal budgeting process and what the agency can improve. cbo has not undergone a comprehensive review since it was founded but demand on the agency have undoubtedly changed since 1974. we are here to make sure the agency has everything it needs to effectively and efficiently fulfill its mission in the 21st century. last week during our hearing with cbo director doctor keith hall, and the organizational structure, and staffing assumptions, pr

the budget committees enforce the budget rules of the congress and they're not required to use cbo's estimates. the congressional act of 1974 requires that cbo produce cost estimates for every bill ordered reported out of a full committee. the authorizing committees. we also prepare estimates when requested at other stages of the legislative process. the budget act directs cbo to give priority to committee, particularly the house and senate budget committee. though we try, given our staffing, we are generally not able to satisfy requests for cost estimates that do not come from the budget committees, the committees of jurisdiction over the legislation, or the house or senate leadership. now to the content of our products. i'll start with the rules governing the libaselines and tn the cost estimates. section 257 of the balance budget emergency control act of 1985 defines the baseline and sets out the rules for its construction. for mapd b toir spendatory spen revenues, the touchstone is that we assume the current laws will remain in place and they operate as they're set in statute. for

budgeting. it also plays a key role in advising the committee is it enforces budget roles. without question, there are dozens of feynman and women employed by cbo including analysts, management, and support staff. for more than 40 years since its founding, congress has not undertaken a conference of review of cbo's structure and processes. it is still under its original permanent authorization. alarmthis not to raise about the future of cbo are question congresses need for it. it is simply a fact that serious oversight has not been exercised to make sure it has the tools it needs. that being said, our intention is the same. we want to better understand how cbo carries out its nonpartisan mission. during today's hearing, we'll take a closer look at the organizational operation including its staffing, .ssumptions, and work processes to provide an overview in how it has evolved i am pleased to welcome dr. keith hall. as director since i want to stress this series of hearings is not designed to be partisan or invite cheap shots. legitimate questions about how cbo operates. i am

to give a brief update on the status of the budget committee. reconvened for the current year process. we have met multiple times leading up to this point and continue meeting the next few months as the budget process continues. included in your packet was a list of some of the results of need assessment for the department submitted by division head, field and members of the budget committee and discussed those in length and anticipate discussing those with the mayor's office. so, they have graciously offered to host a meeting with the budget committee at city hall and we are currently in the process of scheduling that, most likely for early march. so, we have done that the past couple years, where the mayor's office gives an overview of the city's financial outlook, the budget process instructions and then serves as kind of a q and a session with the budget committee. we have had some initial discussions at the budget committee on how we would like to use that time, and i think it would be for highlighting the priorities of the department going

staff between the house budget committee and the senate budget committee. it wasn't -- isn't that the original incarnation of the cbo? >> i'm not sure about what the original intent was, but certainly that characterization is right, that we're here only to assist the budget committees. and the rest of the congress. >> i -- my reading of history tells me the senate found it beneath them to share a staff with the house budget committee so once they insisted on having their own staff, we insisted on having our own staff and you were left to advise us both on the side. my experience, you talk about hiring people irrespective of political outlook, and i think that's very challenging. my experience with cbo directors, i tend to learn more about their politics when they're gone than while they're there. we see a lot in hindsight, but i look at -- i'm reading from a cbo cost estimate of the american health care act, and the top line says this, cbo and jct estimate enacting the american health care act would reduce deficits by $119 billion over the coming decade and

i think what was actually true the budget committee was corrected to give stronger role, and budget committee. under the original committee you were to be the joint staff. isn't that the original incarnation of the cbo? >> yeah, i'm not sure what the original intent was. but certainly that characterization is right. we are here only to assist the budget committees and the rest of congress. >> my reading of history tells me the senate found it beneath them to share staff with house budget committee, so once they in his on having their own staff, and we have our own staff, and you were left to advise us both on the side. my experience, you talk about hiring people irrespective of political outlook, and i think that's very challenging to do. my experience with cbo directors i tend to learn more about their politics after they are gone than while they are there. we see a lot in hindsight. i'm reading from a cbo american health care act. and the top line says this, cbo estimate that enacting the american health care would reduce federal deficits by $119 billion over the decade. and increase the nu

and the overall budget committee? >> the board of supervisors committee? that budget and finance. >> i thought there was another -- i know there's a budget committee for the board, but i thought there was another budget committee that worked -- that worked together -- i thought it was headed by the budget analysts. >> so they are essentially the board's representation, and they work after the mayor's office has submitted their budget. enthuse analyze the budget and work with departments and that's where the budget negotiations and budget hearings come into play. we work very closely with the mayor's budget office over the next few months until the mayor's submittal and then there's the controller's budget office that handles more of the technical side of the process, but also termly with the fire department committee, and then, in past years, we've worked with the mayor's budget office as well. >> and getting back to the grant writers, how do we get the grant writer's position into this budget? >> so in line with -- i mean, outside of a -- an additional req

welcome to the committee and the budgetary on the congressional budget office baseline scoring. this is the second of five hearings the committee plans to hold the spring on oversight of the congressional budget office. as we discussed, cbo was created more than 40 years ago as part of the congressional budget and impoundment active 74. since then they been a vital support agency that provides nonpartisan budget analysis and assist in budget committees. the hearings are intended to help us learn more about how the agencies carries out mandates of supporting congress and the federal process and consider areas where the agency can improve. it has not undergone a comprehensive review since it was founded. the demands have changed since 1974. we want to make sure the agency has what it needs to fulfill its mission in the 21st century. last week during the hearing with the director doctor keith hall, we looked at the organizational and operational structure including staffing assumptions, processes and work products. today's hearing and at the next one for diving deeper to explore how

we'll let you know in early march as director corso let you know the budget committee will be meeting with the mayor's budget director just to have that conversation, i think your passion and your, you know, your candor is very helpful but i also hope that you'll understand sort of the constraints we work under. but would appreciate that if you were able to attend the meeting. i think it will be a win-win. >> commissioner veronese: i wouldn't expect that to moderate my passion for the issue. >> chief hayes-white: i think you would be hugely helpful. something for you to consider. we'll keep you in the loop on that. and then i think probably a larger discussion and i know we're running tight because we have to be out by noon, the reimbursement and how it works, i want you to know this is not a san francisco fire department issue only. for any urban jurisdiction with fire based ems, those are the returns on the care we provide. i would say in the 20th to 30th percentile. it's a national issue and it has to do with federal reimbursement and standard rate for an ambulance bill. it warrant

budget committee. maybe this is a question for the council. i assume the budget committee would be meeting on this matter since it is before them, but there may be something extraordinary, too, that could be done. i don't know. they have dual options, something extraordinary in the budget committee. sorry. well, it is before the budget committee now, anything you input back goes to the clerk and back to the budget committee. that is where it is at now. what they want to do with this proposal to meet with you, i don't know. i will say one thing, and that is that i have attended joint commission meetings like planning and other meetings on common interest issues such as seismic. this is done not routinely but has been done with some degree of frequency. >> thank you. >> commissioners open government. again, i understand your comments, however, for the public, i would like to point out what we end up having is going from a year and a half, two years whatever the length of time commissioner keen said the s

the budget was passed by the budget committee. this budget will allow us to position8 in the best in the senate. on behalf of the budget committee, i move out we approve that 20 18th budget as passed by the budget and executive committees. thank you. ms. mcdaniel: thank you. the adoption has been moved. do i hear a second? it is moved that sentiment that 2018 rnc budget. we will proceed with the budget. aye.e signify by saying ayes have it. bob just said no. did you hear that? i heard you. the ayes have it. the 2018 budget is adopted. thank you for taking on this role and for delivering your first committee chair. for the final committee report, i do not want to recognize him, but will recognize him. patriotsearing this jersey which is inappropriate attire. it is not part of our to corum, ron, ok? kaufman fornize ron the purpose of giving his first report. >> thank you. electede committee was in nashville, we have met three times. with the help of staff we are prepared an rfp that was sent in january to an extended list of cities.

with that rogan budget process we had a bicameral committee the way it works is with bipartisanship and here ends my statement. >> by the way i sincerely your leadership on this question you may not agree with every word but we believe the budget process needs reform and i appreciate your leadershi leadership. >> thank you for your comments. >> mr. chairman and also mr. mullaney for your time and your service asking about budget reform process that has been in place for 70s this is a disaster for the american people and we have to offer reform that can hold the stick for the american people but today more crumbs were announced for the american people bonuses from the developer in maryland metlife receiving minimum wages and benefit packages and raises and this is important to talk about the fact people are earning more dollars in wages are going up and packages are increasing now we have seen people reducing their utility rates so chairman what happens when people earn more money from a revenue standpoint? >> it goes up that is our projections so one of the things he mentioned was the r

. >> i think we're still having those discussions at the budget committee level. but overall i think they've been as they have been, equipment, staffing -- on a higher level, equipment, staffing and educational outreach and continuation of those efforts going forward. >> president cleaveland: thank you and thank you to the commission for your continued support. madam secretary, please call the next item. >> item seven report from chief of department joanne hayes-white report on current issues and activities and events since the fire commission meeting on january 24, 2018, including budget, academy, special events and outreach to other agencies in the public and report from operations mark gonzalez on overall field issues, bureau of fire prevention and airport -- >> president cleaveland: chief in light of the time, please keep the report as brief as possible. >> chief hayes-white: that's easy for me. we're going to have to strong arm but i'm ready to roll. my report since the last meeting january 24th, i can skip budget since we had a robust discussion. it goes wit

serving on the budget committee for 15 years i've tried to work to solve our fiscal problems. toevoted much of 2016 working on bipartisan ideas to fix america's broken budget process. we were able to get a conversation started with experts while we made good progress at the committee level for a variety of reasons we did thesucceed in advancing kinds of reforms we need. i'm hopeful that learning from our recent experience the time to reform the budget process is now. to be successful, we have to have a partisan support. i'm extending my hand to the other side of the aisle, looking for willing partners to join me. i hope this renewed call for budget reform receives support from colleagues in the senate and even from director mulvaney. i welcome colleagues ideas on budget process reform, even on budget and on the programmatic proposals in the president budget. while these issues often divide, i believe we can find common ground and make progress. this is the way the legislative process is supposed to work. the way to approach the task ahead for us is to focus on what i call the 8

chris: i served as the ranking member of the budget committee in the house, now on the budget committeethe senate. look, there are a number of things going on. first, it was good that we got a budget agreement that will provide more stability and certainty when it comes to funding our defense, funding domestic priorities. am i worried about the deficits and the debt? yes, i am. i was very worried when we saw last december a tax-cut bill passed that the nonpartisan congressional budget office said would cost $1.5 trillion. essentially we borrowed $1.5 trillion, and gave it away primarily to big corporations and very wealthy individuals. we need to get a handle on the long-term budget deficit both from the revenue side. we also need to look at ways to, for example, reduce the cost we pay in the medicare program for prescription drugs. one of the proposals many of us have worked on is to reduce the cost of purchase -- restriction drugs over all here that would save money for the medication program. there are things we can do to reduce the deficit. the tax bill, that put a lot of gas out th

the measure this staff was able to incorporate what happened at committee yesterday for the commission's hearings today. simile, the budget and finance committee the next time it meets will be bound by whatever this commission does today, you as your independent legislative body can and cannot do with this tile, and there in lies a little bit of the absurdity in the process right now. because while this should be an iterative process, it seems as if we're considering amendments to clarify and to in fact indeed strengthen this ordinance in our respective corners and not really having the productive and procedurally clear dialogue that is necessary for this to pass effectively. so yesterday at the bhoord, supervisor peskin expressed a desire to put forth a joint commission between the board of supervisors and this commission, and it was the best and elegant means of conversation between these two bodies and producing an anticorruption and accountablity ordinance that wo works and is implemented as quickly as possible. yesterday, we did introduce an amendment that would have deleted the date of january 1, 2019. in the intere

recently convicted of abetting dangerous bodily harm and has appealed to the new chairman of the budget committee paper has used terms employed by the nazis and conspiracy theorists. and the chairman of the judicial committee. has made speeches like i guess. the left party is a disgrace for germany the social democrats are a disgrace for germany the f.d.p. it's nothing new is a disgrace for germany. the green party to sum it all up is a disgrace for germany and every german parliament. our political correspondent for did of old joins us now from our report we just heard about how some leading the parliamentarians feel about their colleagues across the aisle in the bundestag what can we expect when they face off again today. well today as you already mentioned the refugee issue again is topic in the bundestag on refugees time reunification of refugees this is an issue bare the the fields this is our home turf they have they have a great strong strong stance against migration against refugees and so it's quite certain that they want to make a point here today of the debate right now is going on the

they have dual options, something extraordinary in the budget committee.

in the budget committee has of the chairman the chairman is for. the a.f.d. . if you could explain to me how is it possible how do you how do you work in government together with a member of the far right party when you yourself are from the greens but it's a hard time for me as you know i am on my car and by myself i'm born in turkey but i grew up in the very end germany and these days you're talking a lot off about german blonde and german existence and germany us especially and they want to show by each speaking by each talking in the parliament they want to show us that germany is a closed shop and we don't belong to death and you might have been to have you experience there personally oh yes i do every day but what do they say or do to get out of. the normal life you know we're talking about nor titian for example when they're talking about. their tissue and then there's nothing like that you don't have a reason coffee or german tea you are german but my in the us and it's like they're building up the walls are not brick walls but these are wa

in the budget committee has of the chairman the chairman is from the a.s.d. and if you could explain to me how is how is it possible how do you how do you work in government together with a member of the far right party when you yourself are from the greens but it's a hard time for me as you know i am on my car and by myself i'm born in turkey but i grew up in the very end germany and days they were talking a lot off about german law and german existence and germany us especially and they want to show by each speaking by each talking in the parliament they want to show us that germany is a closed shop and we don't belong to death and you know i'm going to have you experienced that personally oh yes i do every day what do they say or do to get out of. the normal life you know we're talking about nor titian for example and they're talking about your attention and there's nothing like that you know you have a reason and coffee are german t.v. are jarman benign us and it's like they're building up the walls are not brick walls but these are walsall mines and abou

>> we're still confirming exactly when our budget committee will be. >> if i was still the chair, then you'd know. >> i believe to the members that my committee -- just kidding. i believe that commissioner merase already announced the committee meeting date. the ad hoc committee on personnel members, labor relations and affordablity is meeting february 21st at 5:00 p.m. section m, other informational items, one request from creative arts charter school, prop 51, application. general counsel has encouraged us to allot a total of three minutes to this item. we do have -- let's see...posted in the agenda is the quarterly report on the williams uniform complaints and the acceptance of gifts, the monthly report for december 2017 and january 2018. we do have public comment on this item, joseph adams and fernando aguilar, excuse me. >> all right. nice to see you guys again. good evening, commissioners and deputy superintendent lee. i'm fernando aguilar, director of charter arts school, and i want to thank you for the time and opportunity to speak this evening. while i know there may be only a

these recommendations to congress are important for the budget committees in both chambers to consider as work crafting the budget resolution begins in earnest. without question there are plenty of worthwhile ideas included in the president's budget this year. first i am encouraged that the administration prioritizes and boosts the investment in our national defense with mounting threats to our security both at home and abroad it is critical that we provide for a strong and capable military. we must ensure they have the necessary resources into training to complete their missions with which they are tasked today and those with which they will be tasked in the future. i'm also glad to see the administration confront the issues of opioid abuse that has turned into a nationwide epidemic. more than 115 americans die every single day from opioid overdoses, so we can all agree this is a serious and rampant problem that can no longer be ignored. additionally, the administration's budget request calls for enhancement in america's borders reflecting president trumps commitment to address the br