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president buell: so moved. commissioner bonilla: i would like to make sure that at our next meeting or at some meeting in the near future that we agendize the lincoln golf course lease. that course has been operating month-to-month, and there are some major issues out there. i think before the situation gets worse and i think we ought to look at how the lease is structured and if we want to continue at or look at some other options. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, we will move to 15, new business and agenda setting. there is no public comment. item 16, communications, no public comment. item 17, adjournment. president buell: seconded. all those in favor? let us go check the rest of that ball game. >> 911: fire/rescue, may i help you? >> caller: we have a fire at 1000 howard. >> 911: is everyone out of the building? >> caller: ahhhh, as many people as... >> caller: ...the raymond hotel's on fire and there's about 20 people evacuated. >> police: shots fired! >> police dispatch: okay, code 33 adam 11
president buell: so moved. commissioner bonilla: i would like to make sure that at our next meeting or at some meeting in the near future that we agendize the lincoln golf course lease. that course has been operating month-to-month, and there are some major issues out there. i think before the situation gets worse and i think we ought to look at how the lease is structured and if we want to continue at or look at some other options. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, we will...
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president buell: thank you, mr. hess. >> howard. >> i certainly support you chipping in a little bit to make all of this happen, but beyond that, we have all these office edifices down there, all these similar offices downtown would have shops and restaurants and coffee shops underneath. the area is pretty dead. we go there frequently for the opera, symphony, stuff like that. it's beyond your purview but i would support livening up, in europe, you have city halls where you get the best beer and bratwurst, certainly that would -- president buell: that would be a big improvement in this city. >> thank you. >> is there any other public comments on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? president buell: commissioner heirson. -- harrison. commissioner harrison: i look at this almost as a privatization of public spaces. we witnessed where people in the mission dolores park were upset about us putting vendors in their park for the parks department to generate money. under this situation, the park
president buell: thank you, mr. hess. >> howard. >> i certainly support you chipping in a little bit to make all of this happen, but beyond that, we have all these office edifices down there, all these similar offices downtown would have shops and restaurants and coffee shops underneath. the area is pretty dead. we go there frequently for the opera, symphony, stuff like that. it's beyond your purview but i would support livening up, in europe, you have city halls where you get the...
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president buell: thank you very much. we'll look into it. >> we have one more blue card and that's bruce mcclellan. >> hello, commissioners, i'm here talking on behalf of -- i'm bruce mcclellan, the concession heir down at the ma reena green. right now -- not today, but it's going to be coming up. you're thinking about putting foods carts down at the marina grieb. i think the food carts are a wonderful idea in many locations where there aren't any facilities to offer the same services that food carts can offer. however, at the marina green there is a facility, our facility, and i would encourage you at this time to just start thinking about the placement of these food carts. i know they're going to be in the different parks around the city. i think that's great. but not where you already have a business. it is going to impact our business. a majority of our customers are the bicycle rental customers who drive their bikes all along the marina green and they buy food at our concession. if you have these hoot carts further d
president buell: thank you very much. we'll look into it. >> we have one more blue card and that's bruce mcclellan. >> hello, commissioners, i'm here talking on behalf of -- i'm bruce mcclellan, the concession heir down at the ma reena green. right now -- not today, but it's going to be coming up. you're thinking about putting foods carts down at the marina grieb. i think the food carts are a wonderful idea in many locations where there aren't any facilities to offer the same...
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president buell: i hear you. the creamery is a nice, organic local producer. >> i am co-owner of the ice cream truck. i want to thank the department and the commission for giving us this opportunity to sell our wares in the park. in response to the concern about calories, i would like to just point out that i spent yesterday making mellon popsicle is that are sweetened entirely with honey that is from a backyard beekeeper in to run. no sugar, all for it, pretty healthy. president buell: sounds like a plan. >> we are very much looking forward to being in golden gate park and being part of that community. we hope that we can become something of an attraction. it is an out of the way place and we are getting our gears in motion for making certain that people know we are there and that it can become something of a destination in the park. we very much hope. we also plan to, as michael pointed out, it do cleanup in the park and make sure we are very much a part of keeping the parks beautiful and vibrant. that is all i
president buell: i hear you. the creamery is a nice, organic local producer. >> i am co-owner of the ice cream truck. i want to thank the department and the commission for giving us this opportunity to sell our wares in the park. in response to the concern about calories, i would like to just point out that i spent yesterday making mellon popsicle is that are sweetened entirely with honey that is from a backyard beekeeper in to run. no sugar, all for it, pretty healthy. president buell:...
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president buell: commissioner levitan. commissioner levitan: i don't want to put her on the spot because i know her, but i want to ask rachel to come up. i just want to ask you something and in the interest of full disclosure, rauchel and i know each other and we sit on a board together. but this would be helpful for you to answer. i've heard -- i'm hearing a couple of different arguments today and i think there's some muddying of what the real issue is. so what i'm hearing on the one hand in discussion of that petition, you know, contrary to what some of the other gentlemen said earlier, i don't think i agree that it is a national chain. and i think it's a little misleading to have that on a petition and to kind of get people into a lather about this when it is a san francisco-based, san francisco-grown business. but that's not what i'm trying to ask you. is this about blue bottle, or is this just fundamentally about not having something in the park? so if this was delores parka fay putting a push cart in the park, would
president buell: commissioner levitan. commissioner levitan: i don't want to put her on the spot because i know her, but i want to ask rachel to come up. i just want to ask you something and in the interest of full disclosure, rauchel and i know each other and we sit on a board together. but this would be helpful for you to answer. i've heard -- i'm hearing a couple of different arguments today and i think there's some muddying of what the real issue is. so what i'm hearing on the one hand in...
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president buell: please. i just found that -- that it doesn't help the public discourse if we start with an information that -- as i say, i would sign that. >> point taken. and also, you know, blue bottle is a $10 million to $20 million company that is backed by venture capitalists and they have an aggressive plan to spread their business around the world. they are opening in tokyo. you know what? that's great for them. but they don't need to come to a small neighborhood park and -- for pure profit. president buell: that may be. >> ok. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is steven elliott. i live at 19th and guerrero. i've been there many years. and i want to address some of the things that have been said, particularly by the opening speaker, about reaching out to the community. i don't believe there's been any community outreach on this. if you look at the rules under prop g, which would apply to a place like blue bottle, which applied to american apparel that was trying to open on valencia, there has to be
president buell: please. i just found that -- that it doesn't help the public discourse if we start with an information that -- as i say, i would sign that. >> point taken. and also, you know, blue bottle is a $10 million to $20 million company that is backed by venture capitalists and they have an aggressive plan to spread their business around the world. they are opening in tokyo. you know what? that's great for them. but they don't need to come to a small neighborhood park and -- for...
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president buell: commissioner levitt. commissioner levitan: i'm not putting you on the spot to speak for all peoples on this, but i'm curious. the dynamic that you're talking about at your cafe -- and that's what we love about independent cafes, especially in san francisco -- do you feel that that cannot exist simultaneous with something in the park? >> it could exist simultaneously with something in the park, but i don't think that's what's going to be created in the park. people that go there, they all go there in the morning with third dogs. i brought a dog and people were like, oh, my god, it's red, are you going to take him? all these questions. but you're going to have these kids going in the park and waiting in line for a cup of coffee. we live -- it's right across from a cafe, where i will see someone abandon their car, run across the sidewalk to get a croissant. blue bottle is great. they have a following, they make a great product. but do you need all that? the park is on record of being too many people going th
president buell: commissioner levitt. commissioner levitan: i'm not putting you on the spot to speak for all peoples on this, but i'm curious. the dynamic that you're talking about at your cafe -- and that's what we love about independent cafes, especially in san francisco -- do you feel that that cannot exist simultaneous with something in the park? >> it could exist simultaneously with something in the park, but i don't think that's what's going to be created in the park. people that go...
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president buell: commissioner harrison. commissioner harrison: the idea that's been presented here for them coming in and making money for the park piques my interest, not just for this area, but citywide and i wonder what can be discussed in that arena, not just for delores, but maybe further in the city. >> we absolutely welcome the conversation, commissioner. this is a combination of sort of a larger need to find sustainable revenue sources for the department. we don't have the luxury of thinking about all of our 225 parks as individual enterprises. and as you recall, we solved a $12 million problem by pledging to raise over $8 million in revenue. with that said, we still have 3.5 million of hard cuts, which resulted in 60 to 70 layoffs and reduction in services that the very same people in this room have articulated concerns about swimming pools and rec centers and it's a difficult challenge. and we want the community to really come together. we think this is about and and not or and we're hopeful that we can work with
president buell: commissioner harrison. commissioner harrison: the idea that's been presented here for them coming in and making money for the park piques my interest, not just for this area, but citywide and i wonder what can be discussed in that arena, not just for delores, but maybe further in the city. >> we absolutely welcome the conversation, commissioner. this is a combination of sort of a larger need to find sustainable revenue sources for the department. we don't have the luxury...
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president buell: commissioner bonilla.commissioner bonilla: i attended this meeting, there were some very consistent themes throughout the meeting. one was that -- and i agree with the community that there was not as much opportunity allowed for them to make input as should have been allowed, thus setting a more positive tone and setting the tone that we were there, the department was there, to get more input from the community on this project. the other -- i'll list a few of the consistent themes as quickly as i possibly can, the other is that the park is truly overburdened with use. trash, inadequate restroom facilities, and that -- that adding these new revenue-generating solutions will generate more -- even more impacts that would create, perhaps, more problems than we know -- than we know of at this time. the other consistent theme is that there was definitely a preference for having a -- having la cocina there, be a -- you know, allow la koci in a project -- la cocina to go in over blue bottle, that was clear. the ot
president buell: commissioner bonilla.commissioner bonilla: i attended this meeting, there were some very consistent themes throughout the meeting. one was that -- and i agree with the community that there was not as much opportunity allowed for them to make input as should have been allowed, thus setting a more positive tone and setting the tone that we were there, the department was there, to get more input from the community on this project. the other -- i'll list a few of the consistent...
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commissioner buell: i will confirm with my colleague about this. we are setting up this offer to say, "you have the opportunity to invest in these facilities and use that in the short term for the america's cup." do the $150 million in infrastructure repairs. as long as you want to use them, they are there for that purpose. at a time when the cup has been wrestled away from the team, whatever interval of time that is, there would have to go to the entitlement process to recoup their investment on the facility. in terms of staff investment, whether it is the planning department or any entity, in the undertaking our preparation, that would be covered by the $32 million. any future event or use of those facilities, and they would have to go through and complete environmental review to further recoup their investments. supervisor mirkarimi: if you may need more time to prepare for this, and that is fine. but i can't it is important that we learn from the experience -- but i think it is important that we learn from the experience of what it means to hos
commissioner buell: i will confirm with my colleague about this. we are setting up this offer to say, "you have the opportunity to invest in these facilities and use that in the short term for the america's cup." do the $150 million in infrastructure repairs. as long as you want to use them, they are there for that purpose. at a time when the cup has been wrestled away from the team, whatever interval of time that is, there would have to go to the entitlement process to recoup their...