we'll hear about the circumstances surrounding the crash of flight 3407 in buffalo, new york. senator byron dorgan chairs this two-hour hearing. >> we'll call the hearing to order. this is the hearing of the subcommittee, the senate commerce committee, cassette in aviation. i want to thank all of you for joining us today to talk about the importance of the issue of aviation safety. this is the second hearing that we have held this month to discuss the subject of aviation safety with a particular focus of the safety of regional carriers. in this hearing we will receive testimony from representatives of the nation's network carriers and regional carriers from the air transport association and from the regional airline association respectively. we'll also hear from the airline pilots association and from mr. scott mauer representing the families of continental flight 3407 which crashed on february 12th of this year in new york. i do want to say as well as i start this hearing i had intended and wished to have representatives of the carriers themselves at a hearing and so we did n

or rather in buffalo new york. this flight was operated by colgan air. the plane was operated by captaining co-pilot, both of whom had committed fairly long distances to get to work and were found to have had little rest before the flight. the co-pilot revealed her experience in flying in icy conditions in the transcript of the voice recording that i fred and i am sure my colleagues have as well. the captain had previously failed a number of flight tests. we will hear from the ntsb which has been investigating but it sounds like the captain just made the wrong decision at the wrong time, flying in very difficult icy conditions. at i worry when i have looked at this, and read the transcript of the cockpit recording and all of the other issues, that there are issues here of fatigued, training, commuting and perhaps salaries that could have played a role. i am concerned about the airlines and the faa's ability to prevent inexperienced pilots from flying planes they might be less familiar with than they should be organ

host: buffalo, new york on the democrat line. caller: good morning.n't know if you've ever been a smoker. i have. many other listeners this morning who have been smokers in the past have found it a living hell to attempt to give up cigarettes after they've been smoking them. the reason for that, as you know, is the addictive drug which many scientists say is ever bit as strong as heroin. my question is this. i assume congress will pass this and mr. obama will soon sign this giving this the fda authority to regulate the context. my question is this, this is the real $64 question americans should pay attention to. will obama direct the fda to regular the amount of nick owe teen in cigarettes. if that nicotine was reduced, americans could kick the habit easier and perhaps we could faster arive at a smoke-free america. guest: you raised a couple of good points. one being, you are right, this bill doesn'to+3 ban nicotine outright. some academics vo said if congress really wants america to stop smoking they would have banned cigarettes or nicotine. you rai

. >> but in cities like gary, indiana, cleveland, ohio, buffalo, new york, what are you sensing? >> i'm sensing people have grown up expecting a factory job. they don't have that factory job. they aren't quite ready for whatever new industry emerges. that new industry isn't hiring that many people yet and it's frustrated. and it has political ramifications for state and national politics. >> i think that's why you saw the obama administration last week dispatch secretary soles, a whole bunch of cabinet secretaries throughout the midwest to basically tell them we feel your pain and here's what we're trying to do to help. it's not enough, but i think that they are aware of the political ramifications and they want to show that they are on top of it, they are concerned. whether it's enough to get people through the crisis is a big question. >> final point? >> again, how they deal with this could really have an impact in terms of the next governor's race in ohio, the next senate race in ohio, on down the line. this is starting to actually give the republicans, which was the party out

. >> i am a member of the national press club and a freelance writer from buffalo, new york. in your earlier answer, you leave open the door for future participation in a democratic iran. can you tell us, if you have any research today, that tells how many people would support you in iran? in other words, in this turbulent time, what is your approval rating? >> well, people support me because of the very fact we're talking the same language -- freedom,, democracy, human rights. i'm not demanding people to support me today because of me. i'm demanding people support me so that i can best serve them achieve what their goal is, which is to achieve freedom. that is a totally different function. if tomorrow -- for the umpteenth time, i repeat -- if tomorrow in iran there was a choice for people to say "we want mr. pahlavi, after liberation, if we want to be in -- if we want him to be involved," we will hear the answer that. that question is irrelevant, irrelevant to what we're doing now. i have just as many supporters who are republicans and would want to have a republic in iran,

i think the tragic crash in buffalo, new york, has activated a lot of interest in asking questions. did we drift along here and allow the creation of a couple different standards in training and so on and enforcement. we will know more about the answer to that as more disclosures come from the ntsb and so on, and we are learning some from last week searing and this week's hearing and for that we are indebted to the people who are witnessed. mr. mauer, we are especially indebted to you and the families who decided in the name of those beloved find a way to make a difference and make certain that others do not experience the same fate. so we appreciate all four of you being here. this hearing is adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> people don't want to think of roosevelts conversation as a policy as much as a passion. he put aside 240 million acres of wild america. >> from crater lake to devils tower and the grand canyon or president theodore roosevelt was on a mission to save the west. >> and so now as people are talking about environmentalism and green m

i think the tragic crash in buffalo, new york has activated a lot of interest in asking questions. did we drift along here and allow the creation of a couple different standards in training and so on? we will know more about the answer to that as more disclosures come from the ntsb and so on. we learned some from last week's hearing and this week's hearing. we have decided to, in the name of those we love, find a way to make a difference and make sure that others do not experience the same thing. this hearing is adjourned. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> coming up next on "the communicator's," a discussion on president obama's choice to lead the fcc. later, supreme court justice anthony kennedy delivers the commencement address at stanford university. then, bill clinton and the steady hoyer honor retiring democratic leadership ceo al from. tomorrow on "washington journal." a look at iran and the health- care debate on capitol hill with tony blankley and jon- christopher bua. later, a look at the cov

host: here is buffalo, new york on our democrats line. caller: hello. my question is, you said that in seven days of the intermission is deleted from your system, correct? guest: yes. caller: what about frequent fliers? does this policy get at par due in activity on line? people have to be cautious about putting their information out on the web like that. guest: that is a good question. it is the reason it has taken so long to get this program up and running, to guarantee the privacy protection. in the first couple of years there were legitimate concerns about this in particular. the whole system has been re- written to ensure the privacy. the two best things are that it only takes a limited amount of data, your name, gender, date of birth. it gets rid of it seven days afterward. host: "the new york times" article says it will begin to kick in later this summer. could you pin that down for a more exact date? guest: no, it is a moving target. it is up to airlines and travel agencies and everybody else to implement it. i understand the plan is to get a co

to buffalo, new york on the the republican caller: line good morning, thank you for taking my call. this concerns the previous cobbing of the geneva conventions were said not to apply to the detainee's we have now. in july george w. bush said plainly that the geneva conventions would not be extended to the detainees and no one spoke against it, not even nancy pelosi. she is now against the techniques that were used. i think of it as advanced course in. host: did you say it advanced coercion? caller: yes, we're not breaking their fingers are doing physical harm to them. host: how much of a say should congress have compared to executive authority? caller: if obama was look for advice that might be wise, but to have them make decisions for him -- there is a difference between the two branches, but to have congress decide what should be done, i did not agree with that. host: here is a story on the iraq as u.s. troops began to move out by tuesday. this is our reuters report. tennessee, good morning on the independence line. caller: good morning, and thank you to all of the cable companie

caller: yes, i am an independent from buffalo, new york. in my household we will give the president and incomplete. here is why. both parties will get anything they want. those guys want to make their hundreds of millions of dollars. they will get to. let's hope the president has not miscalculated this whole thing in a political sense and pays for this down the road. i am for the president and for this country, but let's face it. the banks, whatever they want they will get. trillion dollars have been put into this thing and i think we're missing the point -- there's a lot of stuff on the balance sheets which is not being talked about. we're guaranteeing all the deals. this whole thing -- let's hope that it works out. host: one more call from tacoma, washington on our independent line. sorry, wrong button. caller: yes, hello. i just want to say this -- the whole banking industry is based on the rothschilds and there's a famous quote from them and it goes like this "give me control of the money and i care not what laws your lawmakers make." t

in the news this week as the national transportation safety board investigates the crash in buffalo, new york. do you think the issues that have come to light, including pilot pay, training and commutes need action from the airline need action from the airline industry? >> well, look, obviously, if there's an incident airlines and the f.a.a. -- thank you very much -- airlines and the f.a.a. need to look at every single incident to see what lessons can be learned from them. i think fully the most domestic airlines, most international airlines are extremely well run, at virgin we are proud of the fact that we have run an airline for 25 years without incident and i think you ought to be able to run airlines, unless you have extremely bad luck, without incident. as the safest form of air travel today. >> what do you think contributes most to your clean record? >> which clean record are we talking about! [laughter] >> the safety one. [laughter] >> i haven't looked at the other ones. >> now, look, obviously i think the most important thing, if you run an airline, you talk -- one talks about competi

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and things that tragic crash in buffalo, new york has activated a lot of interest in asking questionsd we drift along here and allow the creation of a couple different standards and training, and enforcement. it will more about that answer it as more disclosure come from the ntsb and so on and we're learning some from last week's hearing in this week's hearing ever that we are indebted to the witnesses. it mr. maurer, we are indebted to you and the families who decided to in the name of those you love to find a way to make a difference and make certain that others did not experience the same fate so we appreciate all four of you being here. this hearing is adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] some of the debate on the bill included comments from senators barbara boxer and john mccain. this is about 10 minutes. >> a message to the people of pakistan and that the united states has made a long-term commitment to stand by their side in the region and at home as they battle domestic insurgency and extremists. how

hearing on aviation safety and the circumstances surrounding the february crash of flight 3407 in buffalo, new york. then, president obama's choice to lead the fcc. following that on "america and the courts," supreme court justice anthony kennedy delivers the commencement address at stanford university. >> every weekend, "book tv" has the latest nonfiction books and authors. on "afterwords," a

. >> places like gary, indiana, cleveland, ohio, and buffalo new york -- what are you sensing? >> people have grown up expecting a factory job and they do not have that factory jobs. the new industries are not hiring that many new people yet. they are frustrated. it has political ramifications for state and national politics. >> that is why you saw the obama administration dispatched secretary solis and a lot of cabinet secretaries throughout the country to tell them that we feel your pain in here is what we are trying to do to help. is not enough, but they are aware of the political ramifications and want to show that they are on top of it and are concerned. whether it is enough to get people through the crisis is a big question. >> how they deal with this could have an impact in terms of the next governor's race in ohio, the next senate race in ohio, and on down the line. this is starting to give the republicans, the party at a favor in ohio, some real ammunition for a winning some seats in the next election. >> steve cox is with the "plain dealer. gentlemen, thanks for being

policeman and six or seven heads of states get picked up by anarchists including mckinley in buffalo, new york. but what was different about emile henry is that he took these bourgeois who are having a beer rate before bed and he said, they are the enemy. and i will kill them, they are with our. it is at the same time in the theater in barcelona, exactly the same time people john bonds into ordinary people and blow them up to and so that is what is important about terrorism because they're not shooting people with badges or corrupt officials or shooting as a state or in the case of the spouse of franz josef, that the emperor of austria and hungary who hated her husband gets or who was killed in a vengeance in the summer of it 1894. he does one have to kill the way that quote gone quote terrorists did in upon jab in the 1920's or the very famous scene everyone remembers in the battle of algiers where you follow the women in it and you have a great deal of sympathy for her cause. at least i.com the algerian cause. and then you see the people that are going to be blown up by the bomb. it is a hor

the circumstances surrounding the february crash of flight 3407 in buffalo new york. this is a hearing held by the transportation subcommittee on aviation operations. it is about two hours. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i thank you again for conducting these hearings. i would just add my comments to yours. i agree with everything said about the concerns of this flight. a lot of us get on regional flights every week, going back and forth to our home states. we assume a lot when we get on a plane. i know all americans do. we need to make sure there is a standard of safety for every american. i am looking forward working with the chairman on language that would reveal the pilot record. some things seemed to make common sense right now. i do have the pleasure of introducing mr. scott maurer, who is the father of a 30-year- old who was in the 3407 crash. he was born and raised in at reading, pa., where they raised their daughter. he currently lives in south carolina. the appreciate you taking the time to come to washington. i think this is his third week here, and i know

if they are flying to buffalo, new york in the winter one would expect you would encounter icing conditionsof some sort. i come from the state of north dakota. i learned to fly many years ago and i have been on airplanes, small airplanes with a lot of build up on the wings, watching with flashlights. i have flown in a lot of i sing with pilots and with others. so i think it is an important question -- how much training exists before someone is put in a cockpit for this specific kind of conditions likely to encounter? i want to ask about this issue of the time in an airplane because i think that is also important. in the buffalo crash we were told that that carrier had had a training, they train their pilots on the stick shaker but not the stick pusher and so if that is the case i guess the first question in mind is if you're in a cockpit with a device called a stick pusher which is going to be a device that is going to automatically move you toward a some sort of that safety function in that fight, and have never had experience with it or not been trained in it, is that a significant effici

have read extensively about the most recent crash that occurred in our country, the crash in buffalo, new york. frankly, a number of things happened on that flight that caused me great concern. there were a number of mistakes that occurred, and number of things that to me were revelations that were quite stunning and led me to question was this an aberration, was it something that happened only in the cockpit of this one plane or is there something else at work? is there a set of standards that is applied one way in the one set of carriers and another way in another set of carriers? i don't know the answer but i think it is important that we ask those questions. the plane that crashed in new york was a q400 operated by a captain and co-pilot to have communicated long distances to get to work to meeting, found to have had a reasonably a little rest before the flight, the co-pilot raised issues in the transcript that i read in of the conversation in the cockpits of her inexperience with icing conditions. clearly that evening they were flying is significant icing. the captain had failed a number

. >> host: here is buffalo, new york, good morning on our democrats line. >> caller: how are you doinguest: good morning. >> caller: you said that there is information deleted from the system, correct? >> guest: yes. >> caller: i was wondering what about the frequent fliers and does this policy in any way direct brosnan activity on will line given this is a cyberworld and people should be cautious about putting their information out on the web like back? >> host: we will get a response, thank you. >> guest: the reason it has taken so long for this to get up and running is to guarantee the privacy protections and for the risk of lawyers there were lots of legitimate concerns about specifically the privacy of the data. the whole system has been rewritten to ensure the privacy of the data and the two best things are it only takes a very limited amount of data. you're name, gender and date of birth and is read of that seven days after you fly so take the minimum amount of data and get rid of it as fast as you can, i think are pretty good protection's. >> host: new york times says that it w

in any event, he decided to visit a clinic in buffalo, new york, fairly nearby in order to get the m.r.i. well, he did, and it too revealed a brain tumor. now mr. mccreef is suing the government's -- canadian government's health care monopoly for jeopardizing his life. i just wonder if we want lawsuits to be the answer to this. when you can't get the care you want, you have to file a lawsuit to get it. is that what we want here in america? kwropbgdz. there are also people whose car -- i don't think so. there are also people whose care has been denied. britain's national health care service denied smokers treatment for heart disease. and it's denied hip and knee replacements for people who are deemed to be obese. the british health care secretary has said it's fine to deny treatment on the basis of lifestyle. she said -- quote -- "doctors will say to patients you shouldn't have this operation until you've lost a bit of weight." end of quote, she said in 2007. that's easier said than done for some people. and in any event if they need a health treatment and they need it now, there is a que

715 pm colgan air flight 3407 bombardier -- thank you 400 crashed off of niagara airport in buffalo in new york it is operating as a part flight from newark new jersey. four crew members and 45 passengers were killed. of the aircraft destroyed by eight impact and afire one person in a house was killed and two individuals escaped the house with minor injuries. . . the ntsb has issued numerous recommendations to the faa on stall training, pie lit records, a remedial training, situational awareness, pilots monitoring skills, low airs ditto alert systems, a pilot professionalism and fatigue as well as aircraft icing. two of the series, aircraft icing in human fatigue are on the boards most >> while there are currently more than 450 open recommendations to the faa, on january 12 of this year, the faa took action on some of those recommendations when it published a notice of proposed rulemaking. >> race in numerous safety recommendations, the issue that we issued to the faa. in 1995 the ntsb issued recommendations for the faa to require an airline to evaluate an applicant pilots experience, skills an

grover cleveland was elected mayor of buffalo in 1881, governor of new york in 1882 and president in 1884. so in three years went from mayor of buffalo to president, first time he ever went to washington was for his inauguration. so it's kind of -- and it's funny because harry remembers grover's second election, harry was born in 1884, so the second time grover was elected, of course, it's nonconsecutive. i'm not going to do the math now but another great democratic president that harry was quite fond of. harry himself for his own unlikeliness was born 125 years ago. his early life was unremarkable. worked in a bank. he was a farmer. on his father's farm in grandview. he opened a haberdasher with his friend in kansas city. and in early 1922, there was a financial crisis in the country, a panic and he and jacobson lost the business and he was 38 and living at his mother-in-law's. at the time bess told her mother don't worry harry going places and her mother said, he better hurry up. the circumstances did not poor trend greatness but fate, destiny, chance, god -- something intervened as

the british also burned buffalo and neighboring blackrock. the pioneers of western new york fled east in terror. there was no defending the state western flank by the effective transportation of arms and supplies. the few roads were so abominable that the federal government spent a staggering $60 million on wartime transport, including a dollar a pound for cannonballs that cost a fraction of that to produce. the cost-of-living artillery from artillery from albany to them major-label warfront on lake erie was more than double its purchase price. transportation of material from washington to the lake was up to five times the production cost. the british blockade of american for a trip port, one wagon of war supplies loaded in worchester massachusetts arrived in charleston, south carolina, two and a half months later. nothing had changed dramatically in the decade since peace was restored until the erie canal opened on a fine fall day in 1825. so that sets the stage for what the country was like until the erie canal got built. before trains, planes and automobiles boats and hor

gathered in lake erie port of buffalo that 20 years earlier had been a marked man when developers map the leaders of it new york they have surged past regina to become the most populous of the united states. new york's namesake city new york city had recently displaced philadelphia as the largest city and was taking control of the american in fields, a driver as an accounting houses across the atlantic the words new york were becoming equivalent to economic opportunity for laborers, speculators and pro industrialists alike. and yet until this fine morning new york was no more assured of becoming the empire state and west virginia, pennsylvania or even ohio, south carolina or to one way. nor was the nation assured of becoming the global empire it remains. nikkei-225 the u.s. were so plural and few, not a single nation state but sought a states were a constitution limited federal government and as late as 1865 walt whitman and proclaimed with verbal plurality, the united states with a useful political stuff most needed poets, as opposed to needs poets. abraham lincoln declaring the union as getty. change the back

buffalo, that is how people went. and so when this first railroads were build in new york state, this first rail line was laid parallel tottery canal and later the first interstate west through new york was laid next to the railroad and, it wasn't until, really after the civil war, that the amount of freight carried by railroads exceeded the amount of freight carried by the erie canal and other canals. >> i have sort of a follow-up question, to that, actually, which is, are there any bits of the erie canal that are operational today, for commerce, other than just historical reasons. >> right. the -- i think i mentioned, the current canal is the third version, you know, this first canal was 40 feet by wide by 40 feet deep and an enlarged in the 18 0s to the 1860s and 1905 to 1917 the current canal was built, for motorized barges and mules go away and now motorized barges and the current canal is essentially much straighter and much broader than the original canal and there is -- i have been on the canal and there is now, probably not for several decades, has there been much commercial activity on the canal, almost enti

for the dealer, i am a dealer owner of paddock chevrolet in new york or we employ 135 of the finest most hard-working americans in the buffalo area. i am proud to say that paddock chevrolet is currently the largest gm dealership in the nation and we have been proudly serving western new york for almost 75 years. i am really pleased to be here today. it seems especially appropriate for me at least since my father passed away exactly 15 years ago to this day. it was on that day the livelihoods of employees of my employees were passed on to my hands and our company's responsibility to our community had to be preserved. in addition to my responsibilities at the dealership i serve as chairman, gm's national dealer council known as the nbc for the past two and a half years position i was elected to but my fellow gm dealers. it this in our industry is this -- the u.s. marketplace for automobiles is the most open and competitive in the world. with that competition taking place across a wide variety of brands culminating dealers and now the internet. but it is a recognized fact that since 2006 in rapid decline of our retail business

buffalo, that is how people went. when the first railroads were built in new york state the first rail line was late right parallel to the erie canal. and later the first interstate was made right next to the villa. >> have of follow up question to that. are there any bets of the erie canal that are operational today for commerce rather than just historical reasons? >> right. a think i mentioned the current canal is the third version. the first down was 40 feet. 1830's-1860's. and then from 1905 to 1917 the current canal was built which is a canal for motorized barges. wheels go away. but rest barges. the current canal is essentially much straighter, much broader than the original canal. and there is -- i've been on the canal. probably not for several decades has there been very much commercial activity on the canal. it is almost entirely pleasure boaters. and there is a brief resurgence this past summer when gas went up to -- when oil prices spiked. some shippers briefly, apparently, shifted to the erie canal barges which are much cheaper than tracks on the interstate, at least when gas is over $4 a gallon. but that

it was specifically formed in the late 1880's out of new york to save the big game of america, to save buffalo, antelope, deer, caribou from being exterminated. they would commission articles and roosevelt would write them -- see, this one's on elk. these are great old books that roosevelt got very involved in bringing out these boone and crockett club books. it was about gentleman hunters. they were working to save animals to shoot animals. people have problems with that some today. but it was the hunters of america that really form the early conservation movement. it was done by field and forest magazine, and what became "field and stream" magazine, but all those sporting journals that started putting that you've got to have bag limits, you've got to put a fish back if it has eggs, you've got to not shoot a doe. we take this for granted now. but roosevelt was -- and george byrd grenel, at a ohio university, he proofread my chapters on grenel, because he's the other important figure in my book. grenel was the american authority on game. >> last couple questions. who pays for all your travel,

buffalo, that's how people went. and so when the first railroads were built in new york state, the first rail line was laid right parallel to the erie canal. and later the first interstate west through new york was laid right next to the railroad. and it wasn't until really after the civil war that the amount of freight carried by roads exceeded the amount of freight carried by the erie canal and other canals. >> i have sort of a follow-up question to that actually witches, are there any bits of the erie canal that are operational today for commerce rather than just historical reasons? >> right. as i think i mentioned, but birkenau is the current condition. the large part was done for the 1830s to the 1860s, and then from 1905 until 1917 the current canal was built, which is the canal for motorized barges and the mules go away, no motorized barges. and the current canal is essentially much straighter, much, much broader than the original canal. and there is -- i've been on the canal and there is now, probably not for several decades has there been very much commercial activity on the canal. it's almost entirely pleasure

so he went to the new york's central park menagerie and sculpted this animal and put him on the buffalo mcclendon came the most mass-produced image of a buffalo ever. when the coin started being cranked out, whoever owned this animal, the caretaker in central park decided it was getting too expensive to take care of black diamond, so put them up for auction. then he put it up for private sale and got an offer of $300 on fourteenth street. he wanted to get $500 so he got 304. he ticket to a meatpacking place, processed the animal and sold 1,100,000 pounds of meat off of it. 25 presses are cranking up the image every day. he hung it in his office until 1918. no one knows what happened to it after that. people who are into collins really want this head. when i was trying to find out what happened, i went to the bronx zoo and i met with a historian, he was telling me when he first took the job in 1980, day he got a call from a guy who said you might be interested because i have black diamond's head. the reason the guy called was a mistake because his memoirs got mixed up. the guy called mis

buffalo niagra it and report. the flight was operating as a 121 scheduled passenger flight from liberty international airport in new york new jersey. the four crew members and 45 passengers were killed. the aircraft was destroyed by impact forces. one person and a house was also killed and two individuals escape the house with minor injuries. on may 12th, 2019 tsp, the three day public hearing on the accident in which we explored airplane performance, cold weather operations, sterile cockpit compliance, flight crew training and performance and fatigue management. i would like to note that all of these issues are pertinent to every airline operation for a major air carriers as well as regional air carriers. our investigation continues and we continue to make progress every day. i would now like to discuss some of the sports importance safety recommendations we have made over the years. the ntsb has issued numerous recommendations to the faa on stall training, pie lit records, a remedial training, situational awareness, pilots monitoring skills, low airs ditto alert systems, a pilot professionalism and fatigue as well as

buffalo news reported in they the 1995 trial of omar abdul rahman, the master mind of the 1993 world trade center bombing, terrorist confederates were planning to break him out of attica state prison in new york. an appeals court brief for the trial detailed the lengths al qaeda operatives would go to to break out of prison. their appeals court brief states, and i quote, mohammed sahid later described to selim a plan to break sayir out of jail he surmised if he and salim or others could get jobs with contractors providing the prison with sanitation or food service and if nasir could get a prison job that would situate him in the appropriate area they might be able to snatch him and hide him in a nearby apartment until it was safe to move him. the brief goes on to discuss several conversations his friends had with him while he was in attica. it talks about plans to murder someone who antagonized his supporters during the trial as well as the trial judge. . i quote, the four-hour meetings in the visiting rooms during which nasir railed at the evils of the united states and quote, sitting doing nothing, end of quote, while he sat in jail for doing his part in jihad. when told about the jailbreak

buffalo and one up in montana. >> one of the things you see throughout this center are stuffed animals. >> well, tax determiney -- roosevelt was trained in the arm of taxidermy. his teacher in new york was john bell who had been an audubon student. there was a linkage between them and young t.r. had asthma. he was very sickly. really from 8 years old on wards, he was obsessed with birds. he created his own roosevelt museum, brian. his father, theodore roosevelt's father was the founder of the american museum of enroll history in new york and young t.r. just became a bird lover. his first document we have of t.r. as a young boy is about birds and the last article he wrote before his death at age 60 was about birds and i'm not saying he just liked birds. he was one of the world's experts on coloration and variation on inventorying what we have and he created these bird reservations. 51 federal bird reservations that roosevelt created are now the heart and soul of u.s. fish and wild life. all of the people watching this have heard of fish and wild life but they don't know this began with this 51 bird reservations of roosevelt trying to save egrets and pelicans and others on both coasts

buffalo and one in montana. >> if one of the things you see in this center are stuffed animals. >> taxidermy was big. roosevelt was trained in the art of taxidermy. as a young boy is teacher in new york was a man named john bell who had been a student of audubon. there's a link to john james audubon and roosevelt. young teddy roosevelt had asthma. he was very sickly. from eight years old onward he was obsessed with birds. he created his own roosevelt museum, brian. he had -- theater roosevelt's father was a founder of the american museum of natural history in new york. young teddy became a bird lover. the first document we have of him as a young boy was about birds. the last article he wrote before his death at age 60 was about to birds. i'm not saying he just liked them. he was one of the world's experts on coloration and variation and inventorying what we have. he created 51 federer oberg reservations. today are the heart and soul of u.s. fish and wildlife. -- created 51 federal bird reservations. trying to state secrets and pelicans, etc. on both coasts. >> explain where this conservation training center is located. >> we are in west virginia in shepherdstown. it's a beautiful cam