weaver speaking as the character of the geneva office building i'll repeat this l be guess building inspection commission dictionary a an important to approach the partners for the project right now we have no written relationship with the city it's incredibly important to have this before we talk about this partnership how we're raising money and how we're working with the city so obviously the board strongly proves approve and endorses it and >> is there any member of the public who wishes to speak seeing none, public comment is closed. i want to thank supervisor avalos for bring this and rec and park for presenting and mr. clerk if i could add my name a as co-sponsor. >> thank you and a for your interest in the carbarn i know you took a tour that's significant knowing the success of the carbarn is people acknowledgement across the city is a vital resource for the city thank you for reaching out and getting to know tim worthy who is doing a lunch for the fundraising effort this is a big step in order to show you that we made progress for the fundraising so colleagues, i urge your support and also i wou

violations it sounds like responsive and not comprehensive so of us went to meeting to the building inspection commission months ago we heard private retains and rental unit were not intishgd on a regularly basis so the home could have up to date wiring or plumbing and yet because there's no violations it could be rermgd and the issue is what about the safety of those in the unit that's been a short time rental or the next door neighbors or the upstairs or the downstairs neighbors if you've got older wiring or plunging you're renting anti 3 bedrooms of your house you you've got a problem if they all plug in a hair drying or tv you could have a short circuit and dbi is not considered this it is not before the building inspection they don't know had a code to apply a residential or commercial why can't this be on the joint meeting of october in joint building inspection they don't have a basis to know what code to use and the reminded requirement to register only the code violations you could have up to date wiring and still present safety southerners this is a safety concerns if the building has a fire. >

that could be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission. >> our next regularly schedule meeting is november 19th. >> okay. >> and so line of two, commissioner walker, and mar? >> commissioner melgar? >> just to reiterate the specifics short term rental legislation, and amendments, and including dbi and planning f they will come, also, specifically, the issue o it and if we could hear about the project and plan checks and with respect to that issue and have it on the agenda? >> okay. there was a point raised about the permit fees that we charged for the different, and i would like to do an internal audit and have it back to the commission and maybe it will come to where the fees come out and we will reflect for the past year and whether we adhere to the federal guidelines and how closely we adhere to the federal guidelines and the all of the different projects. one of the things brought up was the (inaudible) that the enforcement by the contractors, and could play, in the short term rental, legislation? and enforcement? and specifically it

legislation pending whether the go historic preservation commission or the department of building inspection commission we typically receive their recommendations and put them in the recommendation before you with the city attorney's office to integrate them i know that planning staff will glow the recommendations and i'll be happy to answer additional questions you have. >> commissioners tim frye planning staff as a couple of items in the draft resolution you'll see did mischievous at the last hearing issuing a letter but dealing with those mischievous we sort of stopped rethought everything and decided the resolution was a much cleaner way to express this staffs recommendation it's also in front of you if you turn to the back of the packet you'll see that 219.2 is expanded considerably and happy to walk through this 0 step by step from a process standpoint but average that i just leave it to you if you have very specific questions or topics you'd like to cover i'm available. >> commissioners? any items? commissioner johns >> well at the last meeting i expressed some concern about essentially voting f

planning department in guidance with applicable building codes including the department of building inspection commission that have not been addressed a hard cap of 90 days per year for hosting and non-hosted for subletting clauses i hope you'll consider those modifications in our changes to the legislation. >> thank you, sir. >> i'm john w i'm on the list i want to speak to two primary issues as those a homeowner my concerns about the registry and the cap on 90 days i'm concerned about my name and address and private information on a public registry i have no problem you, you keeping that but it doesn't makes sense to give out my information when you asked about why is there low registration in portland perhaps that's an issue there you have to set back and see how am i able to do this it didn't makes sense to drive things underground which this do did it say better to have the registration but a privacy issue is the concern the other issue on the 90 day limit again, i hope i'm not in perjury by leaving my home 90 days a year but i go on vacationed to europe and gone more than that time it didn't makes

>> good, morning is wednesday, october 15, 2014, this is the regular meeting of the building inspection commission. and i would like to remind everyone for turn off all electronic devices. and the first item on the agenda is roll call. >> president mccarthy? >> here. >> vice president mar. >> here. >> commissioner lee. >> here. >> commissioner mccray? >> present >> commissioner melgar. >> here. >> sxh commissioner walker. >> here. >> and commissioner clinch is excused and we have a quorum and the next item is president's announcements. >> madam secretary, if it is okay with my fellow commissioners i will take this out of order and go to item 5, supervisor scott weiner is here to give us a discussion on this as he has another appointment, if we could, if there is no objection we will go to item five. >> okay. we will be calling agenda item five.discussion of proposed legislation file no. 140954 ordinance amending the planning code to permit exceptions from dwelling unit density limits and other requirements of the code when adding dwelling units to existing buildings undergoing seismic retrofitting

. >> item 6,discussion of joint building inspection and planning commission meeting of october 2, 2014 and possible next steps in joint code enforcement efforts. >> >> and so, i am going to let my fellow commissioners talk and i know that there are commissioners who are happy with the meeting but with that, we start with commissioner walker that we should revisit and discuss the next steps. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and at our october second meeting, we discussed a lot of about code enforcement, between planning and building, and there are many issues that come up for the city, i believe, around change of use, and the current issues are there are a number of them, but it is a pdr to the office and it is housing to short term rental. and how our departments work together to enforce the rules. once the rules have been established. so, nobody that our, and especially our housing division, around the short term rental, we heard from planning and we heard from dbi both, about the process. and there was a lot of of discussion back and forth and there was a commitment to have the departm

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and addressing the concerns thank you to the department of building inspection and tom huey if you recall two weeks ago at the land use commission there were a number of committee members that wanted to have an opportunity to ask questions directly of dbi so we requested they be here to answer questions and with that, colleagues thank you for your patience and the public for your engagement on the issue why don't we precede. >> supervisor cohen. >> thank you i wanted to briefly talk about one amendment that i would like to talk will add to the particular to the legislation president chiu thank you for your leadership and everyone that's been part of the conversation many of the concerns i have stem from what i've heard from any constituents in the event of an emergency short-term rent short-term rentalers may not know the safety i'd like to put forth an amendment that requires the host to post a notice inside their unit on the back of the front door that details the information and the location of the fire extinguishes and any pool and fire alarms that are available in the facility i don't have the exact language but with my con

commission a a matter of the backlog of progressing the applications. >> my next question is for dee dee young and come back to planning so for the department of building inspection if the discretionary review is approved for the bed-and-breakfast is there a different code with the dbi alongside the code or under the residential housing code. >> the whole building converts or if there's a change in use that's under our building code for the multiple unit from rh2 to become rh1 that will be enforced with the whole building converted. >> maybe not a whole building but let's say a single-family home it's something i've heard two weeks ago there were people that owned single-family homes were retired and renting out their home close to 3 hundred and 65 days a year basically running a business they got a conditional use authorization so if the home got the bed-and-breakfast conditional use is there a different set of codes that the dbi enforces or continue to enforce under the normal residential building code. >> it's still a single-family home under the r3 it's hard to say it's a hotel but that's more in planning only one unit. >> okay. so when the planning i'm sorry