a very liberal individualist approach the welfare state is an extra maybe you can afford it very bukhari in european countries like germany it's seen as something that's much more integral to society that's nice said part of people's lives as a social contract what's interesting now is that the u.k. used to be close to the job. perspective but my feeling is where now leaving your very rapidly in this card to perception moving much closer to the liberal market us more well peter aren't you a little worried about what's going on in the united states because i don't think that's a model really to emulate regulate you could finish there peter we'll go to a break go ahead. yes something the florist me a lot but there are issues that lie behind base how do you achieve growth in capitalist economies is the bottom line and show countries the euro pig and the us have faced a situation of long term decline in their economic positions their old feelings a new economic model that will give on why you see everybody else once a jumping or at first we're going to have to go to a break after a short bre