bulkeley here. [laughter] and he metaphysical problems like can help you with? [laughter] to which the answer is yes actually there are and the program here i hope he will agree is one way to address them. thank you. [applause] >> i've been reminded by a couple of remarks made this afternoon of a small incident that happened by now i guess it's about nearly 30 years ago. but it ties in with all these things about liberals and the jeal concert and bill's wyden greatest wide embrace. john had been at one point not long before a president, president or chairman, i forget which for democratic action that extremely liberal institutions founded in 1945 arthur schlesinger jr. and several other people mentioned today. i can't remember who all was in it but was really liberal and john roche had been the president of it. gradually as the world changed at least on foreign policy, he found himself much more in tune with the "national review" and many of his former allies in the john asked if he did write a column for the "national review" in the bill said a delighted, pleas