who are these lobbyists and bundlers, and who do they represent?>> there are 58 lobbyists to 11 of them worked directly for the industry for exxonmobil, american petroleum institute and other trade associations, and the rest are hired lobbyists who work on behalf of a whole range of gas and oil and coal companies. overall, 58ese lobbyists have bundled money for the campaign. the total combined between direct contributions and bundled money comes close to one point finally in dollars, actually. amy: talk about bernie sanders and where he is getting his money from, whwhat your if yournding is, research on the campaign's. >> campaign a direct contributions from industry employees, which he is taken over $330,000 directly to sanders who has taken something like $50,000. most of this money for both is coming from employees. the pledge we have put to all of the candidates is to stop taking money from top executives, lobbyists, and company pacs. none of the democrats have taken money from company pacs. the top executives is an issue that may distinguish s

major bundlers, getting together to do what? raise more money for hillary. >> secretary clinton. so it's going to get even more, money, everything. she is such a -- >> call her dark money. >> money there's' not even attributed to -- deborah wasserman, the found -- >> you know it's not like a good nonprofit where you can do your dollar matching to what your dollar is buying. >> of the five people left running for president, there's an odd thing that's happening as a lot of people really like bernie sanders. even if they don't agree with him, he's the most likeable of the five and he's the most sincere of the five and most straight. >> i do not agree with his policies but -- >> in looking at polling this weekend bernie and john kasich are the only two with net positives. donald trump and the hillary clinton are leading. i want to talk about russia as well. so we've seen provocation. i don't know, is there any other word you would call having russian jets buzz our warship and then come back for more, getting 50 feet off a wing tip of a u.s. air force plane. >> this is a planned prov

our campaigns don't find our fuel in bundlers and special interests.ather directly from the people. >> for the democrats, new york voters had hillary clinton claiming victory and bernie sanders looking for ward to the primary in pennsylvania. >> thank you, new york! thank you. >> hillary! hillary! hillary! thank you all so much. thank you. you know, today, today you proved once again, there is no place like home. [ cheers and applause ] you know, in this campaign we have won in every region of the country. from the north to the south to the east to the west, but this one is personal. new yorkers, you have always -- you have always had my back. and i have always tried how to have yours. today, together, we did it again. and i am deeply, deeply grateful. i want -- i want to thank everyone who came out and voted and to all of you across new york who have known me and worked with me for so long. it is humbling, it is humbling that you'd trust me with the awesome responsibilities that await our next president. and, and to all of the people who supported sen

campaigns that she is going to regulate, have better regulations on wall street yet she's accepting bundlers on her campaign staff raised over $4.5 million for her, sneaky is adough super pacs channeling in hundreds of thousands of dollars. the problem with the democratic party is they're owned by big business. that's the difference between republicans and democrats. >> john layfield make sense of this. >> the demagoguery bernie sanders goes through and finds out he has no substance when he can't answer the question how would you break up the big banks? he talks about anti-trust, nothing to do with solvency or too big to fail. like the absend-minded professor you worry will show up in his bath robe the first day of school. >> we need to get both of them hypocrites t-shirts. thank you. eric, what do you guys have coming up? >> dagen, president obama mocking donald trump saying if mexico doesn't pay for the wall he'd freeze the mexican immigrants and send them back to their country. >>> two gap ads may be exposing common sense and people looking to be offended. cashing in, we'll see you the 11

our campaigns don't find our fuel in bundlers and special interests. but rather directly from the people. >> the trail doesn't get much better for cruz in pennsylvania. according to recent polls the campaign is looking ahead to indiana and other western states. >>> let's turn back to the democrats now and hillary clinton's resounding victory over bernie sanders. she picked up 177 delegates in her adopted home state and senator sanders picked up 105. clinton is under 80% of the way needed to clinch the nomination. and shortly after new york was called in her favor last night, she proclaimed that the democratic primary race is now nearing the end and victory is in sight. >> today you proved once again there's no place like home. [ cheers and applause ] you know, in this campaign, we have won in every region of the country. from the north, to the south, to the east, to the west. but this one's personal. and to all the people who supported senator sanders i believe there is much more that unites us than divides us. we started this race not far from here on

they are relying on bundlers. they have a dark money super pac. that comes from. published reports have said they raised over $25 million. we have no idea where that money came from. i think that is what jeff was referring to, the corrupt system of campaign finance owing those special interests when you get elected to office, and he is right in that regard. mark: up next, a familia new york voice kicks off the presidential subway series. ♪ ♪ john: the next stop is the subway. if you want to convince new york voters, you need to ride the train. we got them on a big apple scandal, somewhere in between the cab, but there was only one man to call on to put this on perspective, the voice of the new york subway system, bloomberg radio host charlie pellet. >> the new york city subway, a hyper fast labyrinth of 24 hour claustrophobic democracy, everyone together, every passenger equal. i have guided millions of subterranean souls. >> stand clear of closing doors, please. thank you for writing with mta new york city transit. >> in a way, it is like running

instead of admitting that she quite regularly accepts money from the oil and gas industry and has bundlers from the lobbyists of those oil and gas companies. instead of acknowledging that, she has tried to put sanders on the defensive and that's the reality of this campaign. bernie sanders is just comparing records which is what all candidates do and that's her job. she didn't talk about the e-mails. let's remember that. he took the higher road there. >> both sides are kind of accusing the other of denying, attacking and spinning. matt, last word on this? >> yes. so just so the audience understands, the democratics have taken 2% of the money donated by the oil and gas industry so far. the republicans have taken 98% of the money. >> doesn't count super pacs. >> that's right. it doesn't count super pacs. that would be against the law. so what we're trying to say here is that some of these attacks are insinuating something that is really not the case. that's why i think sanders is a little desperate and hillary is in front. >> thanks to both of you. appreciate it. two days away from wisconsin

private conversations that they will not participate, they will not show up at the convention, and big bundlers have said, we will sit this out or we may even send money hillary clinton's way if she is the nominee. there is that restlessness within the financial matrix of the republican party. that may be an empty threat, but it is a concern for the republicans. it is a dilemma built atop an existential crisis. what is the republican party now? what are its foundations to those issues? what are its tactical approaches? not just in the voting booth, but winning back the presidency. all three of those things have been deployed to this conversation and have been unresolved for years and the donald trump phenomenon is a manifestation of that. charlie: some say, you democrats will face the same thing down the road. you have the beginnings of the same kind of split. mr. garrett: that is potentially true. one thing that is true in traditional politics is that demographic advantages do not last forever, because demographics change constantly. they are not linear. you cannot project them for 30 years. n

they are relying on bundlers, big money. they have a dark money super pac out there.have no idea where the money -- every citizen counts. published reports has said its raised over $25 million. we have no idea where that money came from. that is what jeff was referring to. a corrupt system of campaign finance, special interests that paper campaigns, and a windows special interest -- and owing those special interests when you get into office. he is right and that reference. mark: does hillary clinton owe the family that lost loved ones in the iraq war and apology, as your candidate suggested? tad: what bernie suggested is that we are going to -- is that if we are going to quality -- going to question his collocations-- mark: we have to go to a heartbreak. thank you tad, we will be right back. ♪ ♪ >> our next guest is to guests that two -- two guests. great to see you both. casey, let me start with you. you think offenders campaign was looking for a fight here and that's right that's why senator sanders reacted the way he did? do you think he's generally angry? >> i thi

they are relying on bundlers, big money.e way, they have a dark money super pac out there. we have no idea where the money that, every citizen counts super pac. published reports has said its raised over $25 million. we have no idea where that money came from. that is what jeff was referring to. a corrupt system of campaign finance, special interests that fund campaigns, and owing those special interests when you get into office. he is right in that reference. mark: does hillary clinton owe the family that lost loved ones in the iraq war an apology, as your candidate suggested? tad: what bernie suggested is that if we are going to question qualifications, we should put into play the issues where they have differences. mark: i'm sorry, we have to go to a hard break. thank you tad, we will be right back. ♪ ♪ john: our next guest is two guests. casey hunt who joins us from rockefeller plaza. and abby phillip. great to see you both. casey, let me start with you. do you think the sanders campaign was looking for a fight here and

great newspaper, reports that paul ryan will attend an exclusive meeting of republican financial bundlersy, organized by todd rickets. a conservative donor. you might remember, donald trump told his family to, quote, be careful when he heard they had donated money to an anti-trump super pac. meantime, ryan's predecessor, john boehner, is onboard. he says if no candidate came up with the majority of 1,237 in the first ballot, his vote is for ryan. luke russert joins us on capitol hill, and we're also joined by michael steele, who worked for a pro-jeb bush pac. thank you. hey, luke, you've got a good nose for up there. what do you smell? i want this on record, what do you smell about the movement's behavior, whatever, about the speaker you cover? is he hoping to get drafted? >> well, the establishment certainly would love for him to emerge from a contested convention and grab that mantle, chris, but everyone within his operation here on capitol hill, his pac and outside group, they're all very tight-lipped and said no, no means no, he cannot grab this nomination, because he has not run for

also has also cited a greenpeace report that claims "clinton has taken $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlerse donors connected to the fossil fuel industry," although in clinton's defense, the vast majority of that went to a super pac supporting clinton, which she has legally barred from coordinating. voters can decided for themselves how much any of this matters to them. but it's probably not wise to assume that the voters who are concerned, specifically young people, are just naive and misinformed, as clinton seemed to imply yesterday on "meet the press." >> i feel sorry sometimes for the young people who, you know believe this. >> right. >> they don't do their own research. >> seth: well, young people feel sorry for you that you can't get into da club. [ laughter ] now, there are some in the media and the democratic party are who concerned about what they say is the increasingly negative tone of arguments like this, but it's important to remember that this happens every time there's a contested democratic primary. first, one candidate promises not to take any money from fossil fuel interes

they're relying on bundlers. from that, you know, every citizen counts super pac, which published reports have said have raised over $25 million. we have nowhere tidea where the money came from. special interests which pay for campaigns, and then owing the special al interests when you get elected to office. he is absolutely right in that reference. >> yes or no, does hillary clinton owe the families who lost loved one in the iraq war an apology. >> what bernie was suggesting if we're going to question his -- >> okay. >> great differences. >> appropriate suggestion. >> we've got to go to a break. thanks very much, tad devine. we'll be right back. (laughing) there's nothing like making their day. except making sure their tomorrow is taken care of too. financial guidance while you're mastering life. from chase. so you can. then smash it into a tree.ch on a perfect car, while you're mastering life. your insurance company raises your rates... maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident f

our campaigns don't find our fuel in bundlers and special interests, but rather directly from the people. >> reporter: so cruz drawing comparisons to bernie sanders there, steve, painting himself as the outsider, something that he has done or tried to do throughout this campaign season in a cycle in which the outsider has done very well, donald trump, sanders himself. the challenge for cruz is that as he turns now into this contested convention possibility, he's got to explain the rules and the process to a group of voters that donald trump has brought under the republican tent, voters who may not understand that just because you get most of the vote doesn't necessarily mean you get the delegates or mean you get the nomination. so for cruz it's a process argument. for trump, more of a visceral argument to try to tell people, hey, i've got the most votes, you should make me your nominee. steve. >> hallie jackson with the cruz campaign. yes, those 54 unbound delegates in pennsylvania very significant. something we'll be talking a lot about in the coming days. hallie jackson, thank you for

because of the momentum, what they're actually saying is the washington insider type donors, or other bundlersn't giving anymore, because those people are giving to get something, whereas grassroots donors tend to say, they're giving to do something. they want to communicate through it, which is, actually, as conservative point in the sense that a lot of supreme court law talks about money as speech. people want to speak through their money for that support. we're almost out of time. real quick. >> they feel like they can't. they don't have $2,700 to hand over and don't is a bunch of rich friends. >> but they have 27. if you knock off a few zeros. kasie hunt, as always, thank you for your time. appreciate it. as merrick garland meets with more republicans on capitol hill, is he getting any closer to an actualonfirmation hearing? lawrence tribe who's talked to president obama, john roberts, elena kagan, ted cruz, and merrick garland, he's here next. using your airline credit card miles. and surprise! those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, making it really hard to book the flig

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her bundlers, 40 of them are attached to the fossil fuel industry.g away from fossil fuels, natural gas, petroleum, crude. >> they don't want competition because they are dinosaurs too. stuart: at this time every new yorker is benefiting from very cheap gas, natural gas for your house, very cheap gasoline, very cheap home heang oil in these two democrats are trying to kick them out of the state. providing all these benefits to poor and elderly -- >> that is the problem. we were always told low oil prices, low gas prices would help the economy. this is the most incredible attack i have ever seen. stuart: they are arguing against cheap gas and cheap natural gas. >> her attack on call matches saying they are going to kill the coal industry and kill coal jobs. this is a no-brainer for american people who care about jobs, care about industry, care about being able to do business in a less expensive way because of affordable oil. >> what happens to the consumer when gas is up to $3 a gallon again? stuart: france, let's go -- reports of 10,000 millionaires

our campaigns don't find our fuel in bundlers and special interests but rather directly from the people>> i was that was rehearsal. i don't know if anybody was there. >> he was just prepping. >> he did say he had a lot in common with bernie sanders. one thing he didn't mention they were both trounced last night but campaigns that are unlikely. >> people like bernie sanders. >> i do like bernie sanders. >> i was going say quickly, it's a parallel universe where donald trump is not the outsider, reality host and businessman. ted cruz and bernie sanders are sitting senator and -- >> it's not reality, it's what he's saying. >> this is a guy who went to princeton, harvard. >> harvard law. >> his wife works at goldman sachs. he worked at the bush administration of he was in the solicitor general's office. he worked on the bush campaign. wasn't he the texas attorney general? he was a texas united states senator. he's now presidential candidate. and the only one on the republican side that holds office in washington, d.c., and he's the outsider? >> with that resume, he's obviously a renegade. >

our campaigns don't find our fuel in bundlers and special interests. the people. agewide-eyed youth of any that have not given up on the hope that tomorrow can and will be better. ronald reagan and jack kennedy were outsiders. they both represented a whole new vision and vibrancy, a new generation of ideas. jack kennedy looked forward instead of back to the first half-century of world war. he knew america could dream and build if we were set free. rocketss for war, but for exploration. to us, theed out most powerful force for innovation the world has ever known. there we found new tech trade nears like bill gates, and a young steve jobs. they had vision and the freedom to build a new world that at the time only they saw because they were free. they challenged the way and changed the way all of us live, work, and interact. now it's our turn. this generation must first look inward to see who we really are after years of being beaten down. years of being told we could not, should not, for with not -- or would not. this generation needs to answer a new set