babysit bundy in florida.ould sit through his trial, and that's the way that it began. >> so where we are we? >> bundy took the witness stand wearing a port coat and a seattle mariner t-shirt. >> it was interesting to meet him because ted was so clever in a way that i was very unfamiliar. when i got started with ted, i said, okay let's take it from the top. let's go through your life. very quickly it was clear that ted taught of this as kind of a celebrity bio. that you know, he's ted bundy, the cover boy. >> for much of their conversation bundy talks in circles. >> i didn't really have any leverage with him. because he had all the knowledge in his head. and so for quite a bit of this one night i have an epiphany, if you will in this miserable hotel room i heard a playback how ted was described by everybody as boyish ch boyishly handsome boyish demeanor. and the more i thought about it the more it occurred to me that he wasn't just boyish but he was a boy. he seemed to be about 12 years old. so i said to mysel

for years cowell, otherwise known as ted bundy, confounded authorities with his killing spree.row, bundy agrees to a series of interviews. >> basically when i reached the car, what happened was i

you know it's true isn't it as soon as the word psychopath is out saw images bundy and jeffrey dharma and all those other kind of serial killers come creeping across our minds but actually when psychologists like myself talk about psychopaths we're actually referring to a person with a distinct set of personality characteristics characteristics such as. fearless nurse ruthless nurse kooris under pressure focus and of course that trademark lack of conscience and empathy not notice i haven't said violence there and notice i haven't mentioned intelligence either know if you've got those traits that i've just mentioned and you happen to be naturally violent and you also happen to be naturally stupid then your prospects my friend don't really going to be that great you're going to or wind up putting up all over someone's head or stabbing them in a bar you're going to end up in prison pretty quickly but if you have that constellation of traits i was just telling about and you are you happen to be intelligent and also not plan and then reuters the famous headline once put it you are morally

they consider fort hood massacre a workplace violence, which is calling ted bundy a bad boyfriend.ntaneous upset is euphemism for what we call terror. you heard of double speak. this is triple speak to confuse the listener and hide unpleasant facts. this isn't a george orwell book and four americans are dead. why the latest example of obama speak? timing. al-qaeda attack before the election, that is like a jerk throwing up in the punch bowl. the whole obama destroying al-qaeda story becomes shakier than ikeea bookcase. so let's blame amateur video maker. in plain language it's a coverup. the president talks about how great education is, he is the great unlearner. i get dumber every time i hear him, which is why the more he talks the more i understand him. all right, bob. all right. we know who did it now. >> bob: who is that? >> greg: the guy, the person who pushed the video. we now know. >> bob: who is it in >> greg: i thought you were going say who it was. it's the white house. yes, it was. >> bob: no. it was not the white house. what happened here, by the way, the attacks on sus

bundy comes from corporate campaigns as well as individual donors and foundations. we have a revenue generating model which is the first book. >> host: is there a special focus? preschool or classrooms? >> great question. first book has built a pipeline to serve all kids, eyeglasses serving kids in need for a reading is fundamental is a good example with 1900 programs supported as well as 40,000 others. headstart after-school programs, of entering '03 t nurse supported by first book. >> host: we are joined by the president and ceo from reading is fundamental. . . she wanted to take a book home. one of the mothers came to school to return the stolen books and i said no we want the child to have the book and that started a tradition where we might present a book helping the child's rights and earnings. one was thought to be the teacher to help children potentially at risk of not wanting to read now. we are here to help them in the joy of reading first by putting that book in their hands that they have chosen, and the notion of recent years we have really tried to stre

. >> jimmy: our first guest has graduated from beloved tv daughter kelly bundy to beloved tv mother thefe, her show, "up all night," it her show, "up all night" airs thursdays at 8:30 on nbc, please say hello to christina applegate. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> hi. all right. i know it is your birthday. i didn't want you to think i forgot. which i didn't. so i brought you, this is a candle. >> jimmy: yes. electric candle. >> this is a pillow. >> jimmy: thank you. that's nice. it's already, already got a stain on it. that's nice. where did this come from? >> the dressing rooms. >> jimmy: from the dressing rooms. that is very, very thoughtful. thank you so much. >> my dressing room. really my gift to you. >> jimmy: you are right. a good way of looking at it. how are you doing? >> everything is wonderful. >> jimmy: you are on hiatus? >> yeah, long three-month hiatus while the show goes through a metamorphosis. >> jimmy: metamorphosis. how much is going to happen? >> a big one. >> jimmy: everyone will still be on it i hope? >> they're going to do it just with kids. none tough us are actuall

and george bundy, his national security adviser, lbj talked about laying awake all night and thinking about the war. and he said that it is ..what is beyond me? what is vietnam to this country? and he realizes. it is of no great consequence to the united states. it doesn't mean much. except for the fact that if you do not stave off communist insurgencies, there is a good possibility that the communists would take more grounded or embolden the chinese in other parts of the world. in effect, in keeping the insurgents at bay in vietnam, you are ultimately preventing world war iii and playing out. he was a student of the domino theory. not the theory that came out as the cold war emerged in the wake of world war ii, the domino theory that played out during world war ii and led to world war ii. the conscience of neville chamberlain, the prime minister of united the united kingdom, going to munich and striking an agreement with adolf hitler that he felt would bring peace in our time. well, that's not what happened at all. what happened is he got world war ii. one of the things that lbj says

allowed to stay because we just can't live with the american public if we let these stated george bundy argues for getting rid of them. mr. kendig is -- if you cannot look at clinical militant assessments of what is and isn't a threat, we have to get rid of these. then you look at some of the other weapon system. it wasn't just about the bombers and long-range missiles but there was a lot of other military equipment and cuba. >> host: and troops. >> guest: and the troops is the issue here. the americans thought there were something around seven, 8000 troops. the assessments vary, change to the crisis. it started at about 8000 then it went up. the top they ever realized it was about 15,000 troops but, in fact, there were around the 42000 never understood how many were there. but on the 23rd of october, the day after kennedy's speech to the nation, they started sending over low-level surveillance planes but they started getting much more detail about what was on the ground in cuba. they discovered they were, in fact, these comments it's in cuba which was the first time they had been disco

george bundy argues for getting rid of them. and kennedy is persuaded that okay if you're not looking at clinical military assessment of what is or isn't a threat we have to get rid of them. you look at the other weapons system. it wasn't about the long range missile. there was a lot of other military equipment. >> host: and the tens and thousand of troops. >> guest: the troops were something here. they thought around 7 or 8,000 troops. assessment vary. they change through the crisis. it started at 8,000 and went up. it was 17,000 they were around about 41,000. they never understood how many there. on the 23rd of october, the day after speech to the nation, they started sending low-level surveillance planes. they started getting more details what was on the ground in cuba. they discovered there were in fact these combat troops in cuba. it was the first time i had had been discovered. they were organized to four groups. they had sophisticated personnel carrier weapons. sophisticated canyon they had nuclear capable rockets and so

and this man may end up being the next ted bundy. >> do they think one person is responsible for thehey do not. they think there's another serial killer and this highway, the publicity that it's garnered was a magnet for killers. >> the fact that it's called the highway of tears is such a very way to describe it. in your piece you said it's because it's a lonely isolated area. is there another reason why they call it that? >> simply because of all the women that disappeared, all the pain that's been caused. we traveled thousands of miles meeting these families. this suspect comes at the end of our story, it was a shock to everyone and a happy ending to this. >> all right. "48 hours" on saturday. thank you peter van sant. name of the piece is called "highway of tears" tomorrow at 10:00, 9:00 central time. >> if you think "new york times" was tough on guy fieri's new restaurant wait until you hear what anthony bourdain has to say. he's joining us next on the table on cbs "this morning." at the be table. he won't be on the tab >>> new research just came out. this is crazy. it reveals th

he once represented ted bundy and now defending robert bales.were charged with skills sexual abuse. he succeeded in having some of those cases dropped or overturned. >> it was completely false. made up. what's become known as the wenatchee witch-hunt. >> there's more they tricks with john. >> reporter: gary reason was the prosecutor then going up against john henry browne in the child sex abuse. >> mr. browne likes cases that are high visibility. >> reporter: the two attorneys were ready to present their cases to the judge and jury. gary reason had strong dna evidence. but john henry browne had a strong card to play, a witness who claims she saw mackenzie strangled on videotape by someone else. >> have to watch somebody be tortured like they did to her. and kill her and laughed about it. >> reporter: the outcome was a courtroom drama that no one expected. >> so what's going on? >> this is what i love about "48 hours" case when it ends with, it ends with a drama that no one expect preponderance of the evidence "48 hours" has been working in this

course, the serial killer theory never does explain the trail of blood that led from brown's home on bundyll the way to o.j.'s home on rockingham, not to mention the mountain of evidence that also pointed to o.j.. megyn: trace, thank you. and for that we turn to our next guest who played one of the most critical roles in investigating the o.j. simpson murder trial. former lapd homicide detective mark fuhrman discovering one of the bloody gloves. mark's with me now, great to have you today. what do you make of this? >> thank you, megyn. megyn: well, it's kind of hard to find a place to start, but i think the first place we should really ask ourselves is when are we going to stop wrg falling for the o.j. baiting? this is really what this is. you have a serial killer that never was recognized as a prolific, organized or even interesting serial killer if he was. he takes detectives out to find bodies that he can't find, most of his murders are women that he met in bars that he lost his temper, his mo is scattered all over the place, he's disorganized. he didn't get the attention. he grabbed on

and this man may end up being the next ted bundy. >> do they think one person is responsible for thehey do not. they think there may be another serial killer. they twhi this highway and the publicity it garnered over the decades was a magnet for killers. >> just the nakt fact it is cal highway of tears is such a bad way to describe it. it's a lonely, isolated area. are there other reasons why they call that? >> simply because of all the women that disappeared, all the pain that's been caused. we travelled thousands of miles of this during the course of this meeting all of the families. the suspect comes at the end of our story. it's a shock to everyone. and a happy ending to this. >> all right. "48 hours" on saturday. thank you, peter van zandt. the name of the piece is called "highway of tears" tomorrow on cbs. >>> if you think "the new york times" is tough on guy fieri's restaurant, wait until you here what our next guest says. at ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> new research just came out. this is crazy. it reveals the closer you live to a bar the more likely you're to become a heavy drinker. y

brown once represented serial killer ted bundy and is now defending robert bales, the american soldierores of adults were charged with child sexual abuse. he succeeded in having some of those cases dropped or overturned. >> it was completely false, made up known as the wenatchee witch hunt. >> reporter: gary reisen was the prosecutor then going up against brown in the child sex abuse scanneding and he's the prosecutor now against kris wilson. >> mr. brown likes case that is are high visibility. >> reporter: the two attorneys were ready to present their cases to the judge and jury. gary reisen had strong dna evidence. john henry brown had a strong card to play a witness who claims she saw mackenzie strangled on videotape by somebody else. >> to watch somebody be tortured like they did to her and kill her and laugh about it never goes away. >> reporter: the outcome was a courtroom drama that no one expected. >> so what's going on? >> this is what i love about a "48 hours" case, it ends with a draum nah no one expected. working on this case for over two years. >> more than two years. it's