the driver was ted bundy. that ended the most terrifying strings of murders in modern american history. and we learned how terrifying his story really was. >> there are an infinite number of ways to describe how a man comes to the point where he destroys human life. >> it's been 30 years since the execution of ted bundy, responsible for the deaths of at least 30 women. >> an anniversary like that provides an opportunity to look back at the legacy of somebody. >> it's a legacy that three decades later is still haunting so many. it's being retold in a netflix series "conversations with a killer", ted bundy tapes. and dramatized with the movie, extremely shocking and evil and violent. >> zac efron plays ted bundy, and we are taking his teen heartthrob image and turning it on its head. >> tonight we take you inside the story of a man who terrorized a nation, revealing new details and interviews. >> i never wanted to think people were born evil, but my opinion about that changed when i met ted. i think he was just

i think a number of things conspired to make ted bundy, ted bundy. filled with rage at his mother. ted was illegitimate. there were a lot of things for ted to be angry about. >> when you look at the childhood of serial killers, there are some common themes, and i see them in ted's case where there's dysfunction in the family. what happens is they grow up with a lot of rage, typically towards women. >> he wanted to be from a family that had money and he wasn't. >> it's another sort of checkmark to use against his mother that she didn't marry someone wealthy so he didn't have to steal to look wealthy. >> this is a guy who, from the earliest age, was a petty thief. >> he talks about having been a peeping tom at some point. >> the idea that ted bundy was involved in peeping actually makes sense because it's basically a training ground about how you isolate people, how you watch people, how you get into houses. >> he was a night person. he would get restless, get in his car and drive for great distances. so he was a roamer always. >> one thing we know is

bundy's permit.je mr. bunded that and stopped paying his grazing fees and that started the whole thing. >> the blm was threatening to decrease his cattle operation to the point where there'd bein nothleft. but ranchers can't just stop paying their grazing fees. even as a form of protest, it'si icult to make the case that if you stop paying, you can still continue operating. so the only action the blm can take at that pnt is to impound bundy's cattle. >> narrator: the bundys declared a range war, d the blm finally sent in armed agents to oversee the removal of the cattle. >> rangers and agents from several federal agencies are preparing to move against rancher cliven bundy. >> the bureau of land management came in and began to build their compound, and it was built like a military base. i'm, you know, saying, "dad, i really want to be able to do something if you need me to do it." >> narrato as the blm was impounding hundreds of the bundys' cattle, ammon's brother david began filming gont convoys. (indistin

he is theodore bundy, jailed in florida. >> bundy was living in tallahassee at the time when five floridas were attacked on or near the campus. two of the young women died as a result of the attacks. >> the police in pensacola, florida, stopped a man driving a stolen car and found to their surprise, and perhaps pleasure, it was bundy. >> step out, mr. bundy. what do we have here, an indictment. all right. why don't you read it to me. you're down for election, aren't you? >> mr. bundy -- >> you told them you were going to get me. you said you were going to get me. you got the indictment. it's all you are going to get. >> bundy, having had some law training and a great deal of arrogance, decided to represent himself. for him he was the star in the courtroom. >> since i have been in dade county i've been -- >> don't shake your finger at me, young man. >> inside the courtroom, the trial will be covered by a still photographer and one television camera. upstairs there are some 250 reporters and television technicians from around the country. >> bundy's personality is fascinating to a lot of pe

, we wanted zach to take his own approach to portraying bundy.tremely authentic and zach does a great job of portraying him. >> ladies and gentlemen, i am innocent. >> reporter: looking at bundy known as being handsome and charming before his brutal crimes were revealed through the eyes of his long-time girlfriend, played by lily collins. >> i feel like we're on top of the world. >> during this whole period from 1974 to 1978 was the period of most of his killings. >> he had this need for normalcy. he compartmentalized his life. he actually lived with a woman who thought he was prince charming. he was a wonderful boyfriend and by all accounts, a wonderful surrogate father to the daughter of elizabeth. >> you don't actually believe this garbage, do you? >> it's in all the papers, ted. >> we want to think serial killers are easy to identify and then we can avoid them. the truth is the opposite, particularly with bundy, he defied all expectations what a serial killer is. >> i'm more popular than disney world. >> elaborate eventually grew suspicious a

. >>> one of the most infamous serial killers, ted bundy. tonight 30 years later the traffic stop that finally ended his reign of terror. his last victim just 12. now the loved ones all these years later and their vow. here's matt gutman tonight. >> i am not guilty. does that include the time i stole a comic book when i was 5 years old? >> reporter: for years, ted bundy had killed dozens of women across the west. the former law student, charming and chatty, somehow outsmarting police again and again. >> no man is truly innocent. we all transgressed in some way in our life. >> reporter: bundy escaping twice, once from a colorado courthouse, then slipping through the ceiling of his jail cell. in 1977, on the run again, this time to florida where he would kill two sorority sisters at florida state. his final victim a child. >> kimberly leech disappeared in the middle of the school day. >> reporter: kimberly leach was just 12 years old. >> she had been placed in the -- the -- little lean-to shed in the hog pen. >> reporter: the man who took so m

and zac does such a good job embodying bundy. >> the film looks at bundy noted for being handsome andg before his brutal crimes were revealed through the eyes of his listening-time girlfriend. >> duringd you know, from 1974 to 1978 was the period of most of his killings. he had this need fornormalcy. you know, he kpormt liesed his life. so he actually lived with a woman who thoughts he was prince charming. he was a wonderful boyfriend and by all accounts a wonderful surrogate father to the daughter of elizabeth. >> you don't believe this do you? >> it is in all the papers. >> we want to think the serial killers are easy to identify and then question avoid them. but the truth is the opposite, particularly with bundy. he defied all expectations of what a serial killer. >> is i'm more popular to disney world. >> elizabeth eventually grew suspicious and reported him to police. but continued to charm women, escape police custody andhoible finally convicted and sentenced to death in 1980. mike wilber nbc news. >> and the controversy continues. >> stay with us. we'll be right back. .8 classi

>> reporter: for years, ted bundy had killed dozens of women across the west. the former law student, charming and chatty, somehow outsmarting police again and again. >> no man is truly innocent. we all transgressed in some way in our life. >> reporter: bundy escaping twice, once from a colorado courthouse, then slipping through the ceiling of his jail cell. in 1977, on the run again, this time to florida where he would kill two sorority sisters at florida state. but his final victim, a child. >> kimberly leech disappeared during the middle of the school day. >> reporter: kimberly leach was just 12 years old. >> she had been placed in the little lean-to shed in the hog pen. >> reporter: the man who took so many young lives, finally caught during a traffic stop. >> he finally tells officers, i am ted bundy. >> his name is theodore bundy, and he's wanted for questioning in 36 rape murders. >> reporter: his trial a spectacle. his execution cheered. every year since, kimberly's friends gather by her gravesite. >> i don't want people to remember ted bundy, the monst

ted bundy. you been involved in how many homicides? >> we came up with 30. >> could have been well over 100. we'll never know. >> we collectively still have this fascination about him. >> this new film in which zac efron plays ted bundy. ♪ >> ted could be classy when he needed to. >> the ladies loved him. >> it was almost theatrical. >> how do you vanish? >> there was almost a taunting quality, like catch me if you can. >> what do you got there, bob?

bewanted him to take his own approach to portraying bundy.authentic. >> ladies and gentlemen, i am that innocent suspect. >> the film looks at bundy, noted for being handsome and charming before his brutal crimes were revealed through the eyes of his long time girlfriend played by lily collins. >> when i feel his love, i feel like i'm on top of the world. >> during this whole period, from 1974 to 1978 was the period of most of his killing. he had this need for normalcy. you know? he compartmentalized his life. so he lived with a woman who thought he was prince charming. he was a wonderful boyfriend and by all accounts a wonderful surrogate father to the daughter of elizabeth. >> you actually believe this garbage do you? >> it's in all the papers, ted. >> we give the audience the victims experience of deception. we want to think that serial killers are easy to identify and we can avoid them but the truth is the opposite, particularly with bundy. he defied all expectations of what a serial killer is. >> elizabeth grew suspicious and reported hi

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ted bundy has been in the news. >> ted bundy is charged with the murder of two florida state universityther murders in western states. >> he wants to know why they're not recognizing that he is among the elite serial killers. >> he sent a letter to kake tv, which was an abc affiliate here in wichita. >> this morning, kake tv was contacted by the person who police say they believe murdered four members of the joseph otero family. >> the letter in '78 to kake tv came in through the mail. just as a normal letter from a viewer, it appeared. and once it was opened, we knew we had something unusual. >> btk began today's letter with a question. how many do i have to kill before i get a name in the paper of some national attention? >> the letter indicated, in no uncertain terms, when was he going to get some national attention, that there were seven in the ground, there were many more to go. >> he says he is compelled to kill by what he calls factor x. >> in this letter he describes a factor x. he describes that as what drives him. he lets them know that he can't stop. the factor x makes him wa

if you will get netflix, you have people swooning over ted bundy in obscurity is what she deserves.and people do bad things in war. the problem with isis, it began evil. it wasn't like she joined a revolutionary group and they turned to atrocity. they started at atrocity. she joined something that was atrocious. >> katie: she tweeted about killing americans and other people saying go on drive-bys and spill out their blood, rent a big truck. we saw tax in europe devices affiliated people running over scores of people. she wasn't just someone who went over there to be in isis wife. she was part of the recruiting and the advocacy for terrorist attacks in europe and the united states. >> dana: and she speaks very well and she sounds very humble. you can get suckered into it. i think there has to be consequences for terrorism and i realize that she's a young mother but look, she made a choice. the problem for us is going to be that this is not the only one. you have to punish this one. isis is not an isolated thing. isis is one version. there's going to be another isis and there's going

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walls may look harmless, but like ted bundy, they can kill people. >> here, in one of the safest citiesited states of america, not because of walls, but in spite of walls. [applause] we know that walls do not save lives. walls end lives. >> tucker: [laughs] beto o'rourke. next time your church has a warm coat drive, give one to i him. walls end lives, that is what he says. they are murderers, you think that would be the final word on walls. once you accuse a wall of being a homicidal maniac, what is there to say? can you be worse than a murderer?? turns out you can, not only do walls kill us, the media told us this week, they are racist, as well. every wall is a cinder block, watch the mouth breathers of television explain. >> it is not killers and gangsters, the brown menace, as i call what the president is pandering. >> to blatantly attempt to stir up fear of people of color. of brown people. as my colleague calls it, the brown menace that he is tryingpl to scare you with. >> the wall is kind of a metaphor for donald trump's presidency. the foundation of the wall is hate. it is fear.

she claims florida secretary of state pam bundy witnessed the incident.s she was paid less than her white counterparts. the white house says the accusations are fabricated and absurd. >>> former fixer michael cohen appears in a closed door session with the senate intelligence summit. it will be followed by cohen's first public testimony before the house oversight committee tomorrow and another closed door hearing on thursday. cohen was convicted to lying to congress. he is set to report to prison in may. >> federal regulators want tesla elon musk cited for content. five months ago, he decided to tweet information. last week he promised on twitter tesla would produce half a million vehicles. this year. if found guilty of contempt, musk face possible fines and jail time. >>> we are careful when we pack, well you better be careful, any one when you pack for a trip. you never know what may slither . >> oh, no. okay. a scottish grandmother had her own version of a snake on a plane. she accidentally brought a python back to the uk from a visit to australia. >>

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bundi am looking at is yields losing. this is all about pessimism over trade.hot. european markets pull this lower. trading resumed after a three-day holiday. the president said he won't speak with the chinese president, it is freaking out the market to eight point. thatld point to the fact the german minister is here. they are speaking about brexit. charthis is a yield curve . it really works right now. we have negative yields in germany, positive yields in germany. here are the yields in october if the yield peaks. once important is the shift in the yield curve from october where the negative yield has gone from a five years out to nine years. this is the expanding negative yield that. charthe bank has a great of the expanded it negative yield debt. we are not yet to reckitt -- record negative yield yet, but we are getting there quickly. francine: this is talking about the same thing. the question of the day is when will the 10 year bund advance the 10 year yield. german yields are show or after the growth downgrade. rallies the debt to be expected. it's a va

ted bundy's wikipedia page or the script for the game of thrones.resident trump on several occasions. and there was also this adorable moment now going viral. 11-year-old joshua trump winning over hearts online after he appeared to dozen off in the audience. look, everyone gets tired. the young man has no relationship to the president but he was invited to the speech after being bullied at school for simply sharing a last name. guys? brian: it's exhausting. kids have to go to school at 7:30 in the morning. jillian: i get tired all the time. steve: a kid being a kid. ainsley: i thought it was late. we go to bed early. :00 speech is pretty late and these are children. steve: he is 11. jillian, thank you very much. brian: house minority leader kevin mccarthy was in the room last night as president trump gave his state of the union address. he was also at the super bowl and says the president sent a clear message about america's greatness. he will join us live. steve: what are voters saying about this speech this morning? todd piro down in florida havin