but throwing out the bad ones, keeping the good parts of simpson-bowles, keeping good regulations bunot ones that were too onerous. did you not see a pivot? >> well, yes and no. i mean, i think the main thing is that his critique of obama care, anderson, which just like about everything else that governor romney did during the debate, was appropriately respectful, civil, but extremely toh and fact-laden. he laid out a systematic and devastating critique of obama's record on health care, including the independent payment advisory boards, across the board cuts in services, including $716 billion in draconian cuts to providers, nursing homes, hospitals and doctors under medicare, including $2 trillion in new spending, including dozens of higher taxes, and his argument was mr. president, this is a big government scheme that doesn't work for trying to take over one-seventh of the gdp. i think for conservatives that was a rallying cry. >> would you say it was a game changer or is that going too far for you? >> well, i think it's too early to say that. look, i worked on the bush campaign in 20