last remaining and him and another does p people, so they have to lower rubber life rafts as the bunson burper is come -- burner is coming around the rig. he's like holding the thing to the rig as the heat is coming up and burning his arm and he's trying to keep a grip while his arm is singing. it's dramatic, exciting, and scary. he survives this thing and goes home to recooperate, and the next thing you know, he's racing these boats, and the boats flip and he's wearing a caff lar suit, but cuts through the leg of the suit and almost se veers his leg,. his wife instantly goes online and puts all his boats for sale. [laughter] he sweet talks her and convinces her he's going to be safe now and then she has to go to a race again. she said he was being more cautious, but, you know, a few years are going to go by, and he'll take the same chances again that got him in this position because that's what humans do, and, unfortunately, that's the truth, and so the only way, john conrad says he thinks the way to make this happen is to encourage our best and brightsers to think about -- brightest to think