correct yes and it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority of critical incidents we should say to the bureau of criminal apprehension yes and that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers. yes. and so your role you heard this call came out and you kind of self assigned to show up here. and you did that because you wanted to make sure the scene was secure yes to make sure that the officers who have responded to the scene were doing the things that they should be doing in connection with a critical incident those are such as roping off or tying off the off the tape or taping off seem right putting up courage yes yes not permitting citizens to come wandering through the scene. canvassing the area i think you said and ultimately your role in this particular case was limited to a couple of hours of time making sure those things were done and until. b.-c. agents arrived and you handed off to see if you have such good and it was it was not until later that you were asked to review the body were.

of material? >> yes. >> you received extensive amount of minneapolis police department training materials, right? >> yes. >> received investigative reports from the bureau of criminal apprehension >> yes. >> you received video camera or video tape? >> yes. >> you received materials within the training materials but also contained videos for examples type of materials, right? >> i don't understand. >> i'll rephrase. sometimes in a powerpoint, there may be a video embedded in the powerpoint presentation. the video is an example of a specific training exercise or scenarios, you see all those? >> i did not, most of the powerpoint presentations were in pdf form so we could not view them. >> so you have not seen the training videos prepared by minneapolis police department? >> no. >> all of this material you have received is what you use in part to form opinions in this case, right? >> yes. >> you relied on the materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> some of the materials are completely irrelevant in this case? >> yes. >> such as the use of the taser. >> yes. >> the mounted patrol. >> yes. >> but you received other information that was informative and had an effect on your analysis

of commerce? >> white collar investigations. >> at some point did you leave the department of commerce? >> yes, sir. >> where did you go there? >> the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> 2014. >> that's where you are today, sir? >> yes. in the middle of 2013 to 2016, i was not. >> that's when you were working -- >> from 2013 to about 2016 i was not. >> that's when you were doing the corporate work? >> correct. >> a licensed peace officer, you are required to take ongoing educational credits, correct? >> yes. >> and you have done that throughout your career? >> yes, sir. >> when you were hired at the bca in 2018, what were you hired to do? >> i was hired in the metro homicide unit, so we investigated major homicides as well as officer involved incidents. >> when you were hired at the bca, were you required to do training for the bca? >> yes, sir. >> can you describe for the jurors what kind of training you had to do? >> search warrants and report writing as well as tactics, interviewing, interrogation. >> do you also have to spend some time at the medical examiner's office? >> yes, sir. >> describe that for the jury. >> i recently finished a program at the medical

of materials in this case, right? >> yes, i have. yes, i did. >> you received an extensive amount of minneapolis police department training materials, right? >> yes. >> and you received investigative reports, right? >> yes. >> from the bureau of criminal apprehension> yes. >> and you received videotapes? >> yes. >> you received materials within the training materials that also contained, like, videos or examples and illustrative type of materials as part of training materials, right? >> i don't quite understand. >> let me rephrase it. sometimes in a powerpoint presentation, there may be a video embedded in that powerpoint presentation. that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario-based trainings. did you see all of those? >> no, i did not. i wasn't able to. most of the powerpoint presentations were in pdf. i was not able to view the videos. >> you have not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police department? >> no. >> all of this material that you have received is, in fact, what you used in part to form your opinions in this case, right? >> yes, sir. >> you relied on those materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> some of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case, agre

of materials in this case? >> yes, i did. >> and you received an extensive amount of minneapolis police department training materials, right? >> yes. >> and you received investigative reports? >> yes. >> from the bureau of criminal apprehension. >> and you received video cameras or videotapes? >> yes. >> and you received materials within the training materials that also contained like videos or examples and i will husband twra difference type of materials as part of the training materials? >> i don't quite understand. >> sometimes there is a video embedded in a power point and that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario based trainings. did you see all of those? >> no, i did not. i wasn't able to. because most of the power paint presentations were pdf forms so i was not able to view the videos. >> so you have not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police department? >> yes. >> but all of this material that you received is what you used in part to form your opinions in this case? >> yes, sir. >> you relied on those materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> and? of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case, agreed? >> yes. >> such as use of the tas

of commerce then? >> yes, sir. >> and where did you go after that? >> the bureau of criminal apprehension. >> when were you hired by the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> 2018. >> and that's where you are today still? >> correct sir. >> so initially licensed in 2007. >> yes. >> did you maintain your license as a peace officer during that entire time period? >> no. >> when -- >> 2013 to 2016 i was not. >> that's when you were working -- from middle of 2013 to 2016 i was not. >> and that's when you were doing the corporate work? >> correct. >> as a licensed peace officer, you are required to take some on going educational credits kreshgt? >> yes, sir. >> you have done that throughout your career with the exception of that two year period? >> yes, sir. >> when you were hired at the bca in 2018, what were you hired to do? >> i was hired in the homicide unit. we investigated major homicides as well as officer involved incidents. >> when you hired at the bca, are you required to go some -- through some training specific to working for the bca? >> yes, sir. >> can you describe for the jurors t

of materials in this case right yes it is that you received. an extensive amount of minneapolis police department training materials right yes and you received investigative reports from the bureau of criminal apprehension correct yes and you received video cameras cracked or videotapes. and you received materials within the training materials that also contained like videos or examples an illustrative type of materials as part of the training ritter right. let me rephrase sometimes in a powerpoint presentation there may be a video embedded in that in that powerpoint presentation and that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario based dreams did you see all of those no i did not know it was able to because most of the power point presentations were in a p.d.f. form so i was not able to view that ok so you've not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police are you know. but all of this material that you have received is in fact what you used in part to form your opinions in this case right yes you relied on those materials to a certain extent yes and some of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case reed yes such is the use of th

yes. nelson: it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority to the bureau of criminal apprehension quick. >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers right? and then to make sure the scene in doing the things that we should be doing in connection and then to tape off the scene. so not permitting citizens to wander through the scene. or canvassing the area and then it was limited to a couple of hours to make sure those things were done. >> that's correct. nelson: it was not until later that you are asked to review the body worn cameras of the officers and is a force and then to do such a use of force analysis. i have no further questions. >> did that also capture the bystanders on the sidewalk during the incident. >> with that group of bystanders in your assessment was an uncontrollable threat to the officers at the scene? >> let me ask you this way. would there be other ways for officers to deal with bystanders? >> yes. nelson: could that include calling for backup? >> yes and then consider using amount of force that there is concern about the

yes. nelson: it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority to the bureau of criminal apprehension quick. >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers right? and then to make sure the scene in doing the things that we should be doing in connection and then to tape off the scene. so not permitting citizens to wander through the scene. or canvassing the area and then it was limited to a couple of hours to make sure those things were done. >> that's correct. nelson: it was not until later that you are asked to review the body worn cameras of the officers and is a force announcer: we have the entire trial on our website. you can watch by typing in derek chauvin in the library search box which you can find on our homepage. also available are briefings, house and senate floor speeches, and other events available at c-span.org. monday starts the second week of the trial for derek chauvin, the former minneapolis police officer charged in the death of george floyd. watch live coverage of the trial monday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2, online at c-span

for los angeles police sergeant jody steger and special agent with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension. >> yes> thank you, your honor. sergeant steger where we left off i think we were talking about how bystanders began to congregate around the event. right? >> probably so, yes. >> and you would agree that over the course of time, the bystanders some of the bystanders who were observing the event became more excited. >> more concerned i would phrase it. >> their voices grew louder. >> yes. >> they began using -- name calling. that's what i'm trying -- >>ng correct. >> and as that increased or as the time went on, the intensity of the crowd increased? >> yes. it became more concerned. >> now, we -- looked at i'm going to talk about exhibit 110 if we can publish 110. this again being what some people call the use of force continue or control and response training guide correct? >> yes. >> essentially, this is a graphic illustration in terms of based upon subject's behavior how much force is authorized, correct? >> correct. >> the focus being on the suspect's behavior initially correct? correct.

of materials in this case, right? >> yes, i have. yes, i did. >> you received an extensive amount of minneapolis police department training materials, right? >> yes. >> and receive investigative reports, right? >> yes. >> from the bureau of criminal apprehension, correct? >> yes. >> and you receive videocameras or beta tapes, , correct? >> yes. >> you receive materials within the training materials that also contains like videos or examples, illustrative type materials as part of training materials, right? >> i don't quite understand. >> let me rephrase it. sometimes in a powerpoint presentation there may be a video embedded in that come into powerpoint presentation, and that video is an example of a specific move or it may be i training exercises or the scenario-based trainings that you see all of those. >> no, i did not. most of the powerpoint presentation were in pdf form so i was not able to view the videos. >> so you have not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police department? >> no. >> but all of this material that you have received is, in fact, what you used in part to form your opinions in this case, right? >> yes, sir. >> you relied on those materials to a certain extent? >> yes, sir. >> some of those materials we

yes. >> and it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority of critical incidents, we should say, to the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers, right? >> yes. >> and so your role, you heard this call came out and you can self assigned to show up? >> yes. >> you did that because you wanted to make sure the scene was secure, right? >> yes. >> to make sure that the officers who had responded to the scene were doing the things that they should be doing in connection with a critical incident? >> that's right. >> such as roping off for time off the tape or taking off the scene i should say, right? >> putting up crime scene tape, yes. >> not permitting citizens to come wandering through the scene, right? >> yes. >> canvassing the area i think you said. and ultimately your role in this particular case was limited to a couple of hours of time making sure those things were done and until bca agents arrived and you head off, right? >> yes, that's correct. >> it was not until later that you asked to review a body-worn cameras of the officers and consider

yes, sir. >> and it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident, or the majority of critical incidents, we should say, to the bureau of criminal apprehension, right? >> yes, sir. >> and that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers. right? >> yes, that's right. >> and so your role, you heard this call came out, and you kind of self-assigned to show up here. >> yes. >> and you did that because you wanted to make sure the scene was secure, right? >> yes. >> to make sure the officers who had responded to the scene were doing the things they should be doing in connection with a critical incident. >> that's correct. >> such as roping off or tying off the tape, or taping off the scene, i should say, right? >> putting up crime scene tape, yes. >> not permitting citizens to come wandering through the scene, right? >> yeah. >> canvassing the area, i think you said. and ultimately your role in this particular case was limited to a couple of hours of time making sure those things were done, and until bca agents arrive and you handed off the scene, right? >> yes, that's correct. >> and it was not until later that you were aske

yes. nelson: it is minneapolis police department policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority to the bureau of criminal apprehension quick. >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers right? and then to make sure the scene in doing the things that we should be doing in connection and then to tape off the scene. so not permitting citizens to wander through the scene. or canvassing the area and then it was limited to a couple of hours to make sure those things were done. >> that's correct. nelson: it was not until later that you are asked to review the body worn cameras of the officers and is a force and then to do such a use of force analysis. i have no further questions. >> did that also capture the bystanders on the sidewalk during the incident. >> with that group of bystanders in your assessment was an uncontrollable threat to the officers at the scene? >> let me ask you this way. would there be other ways for officers to deal with bystanders? >> yes. nelson: could that include calling for backup? >> yes and then consider using amount of force that there is concern about the

of the squad 320 -- >> yes. >> -- prior to that second -- the defense request to view, right, squad 320 had been in the bureau of criminal apprehension secure storage from effectively may 25th, 26th, all the way until january when that was done, right? >> yes. not on site at our headquarters. >> at the secure storage location? >> correct. >> and no one -- the defense would not have had access to that unless you or another representative of the bca was present, correct? >> that is correct. >> and it is common, is it not, in your investigations for defense attorneys to ask to view pieces of evidence, right? >> yes, it is. >> and it's permissible? >> yes. >> and that was done in this particular case, right? >> yes, it was. >> and you weren't present at that? that was agent phil, i believe, that was present? >> correct. >> along with scott buehler? >> correct. >> you're not suggesting that somehow the defense put pieces of pills into that squad car. >> no, sir, i'm not suggesting that. >> and, in fact, it would have been the agents who were present to cut the seal on the squad car, correct? >> yes. >> all right. and the defense isn't nec

yes. >> the first interview you provided was in may, on may 31 of 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension >> as well as an fbi agent, correct? >> yes. >> and have you had an opportunity to review the transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> you were also then you had a meeting on december 14 with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14? >> december 14. would you -- >> i believe you. >> okay. then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21 of this year, 25th, excuse me, of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31 which i believe was just yesterday, right? and you understand again that you at least the meetings with law enforcement they were recorded, transcribed and you had opportunities to review both of those transcripts? >> yes. >> and, in fact, i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors you went through the fbi transcript from that meeting back in june?

yes. >> and it includes interviewing witnesses? >> that is correct. >> and the critical incident policies of the bureau of criminal apprehension was followed in this particular case, right? >> yes, sir. >> now, when you conducted the first search of the mercedes-benz back on may 26th of 2020, you were present when that happened, right? >> from -- some of the time. >> but another crime scene analyst would have taken photographs, looked at things and preserved that both digitally by way of photographs plus keeping the actual evidence, right? >> yes, a bca agent took the photographs. >> that's mackenzie -- >> no, joseph o'brien. >> he was also a part of the crime scene? >> yes. >> so your job was to investigate the case, right? >> yes. >> did you review those photographs? >> exactly. >> did you specifically take note at that time of the presence of pills in the merced mercedes-benz? >> of the 750 photos i reviewed, i did not. >> so it's not that you didn't preserve the evidence, you just didn't notice it? >> correct. >> again, based on what you learned about what happened in this case, you weren't looking -- necessarily looking for anything of that nature, righ

yes. >> the first interview that you provided was in may -- was on may 31st of 2020, with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehensioned nathan adams as well as an fbi agent, correct? >> yes. >> have you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> all right. you were -- then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14th? >> december 14th. would you dispute me if i told you that? >> i believe you. >> then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21st of this year -- or 25th, excuse me, of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31st, which i believe was just yesterday, right? >> yes. >> and you understand, again, that at least the meetings with law enforcement, they were recorded, transcribed and you have had opportunities to review both of those transcripts? >> yes. >> in fact, i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors, you

yes. >> the first interview that you provided was may 31, 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension named nathan as well as an fbi agent named christopher, correct? >> yes. >> and have you had an opportunity to review the transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> you were also -- and then you had a meeting on december 14 with prosecution teams in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14? >> december 14. would you believe me if i told you that? >> i believe you. >> then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21 of this year, or 25 of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31, which i believe was just yesterday, right? and you understand, again, that you, at least the meetings with law enforcement, they were recorded, transcribed, and you had opportunities to review both of the transcripts. >> yes. >> and i think yesterday you went through these fbi transcripts from that meeting. >>

yes. >> the first interview that you provided was in may -- may 31st, 2020, with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehensiondams and an fbi agent in christopher langert. >> yes. >> have you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> all right. you were also then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14th? >> december 14th. >> it could be. >> would you believe me if i said that? >> i believe you. >> okay. then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21st of this year or 25th, excuse me, of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31st which i believe was just yesterday. right? >> yes. >> and you understand, again, that you -- that at least meetings with law enforcement they were recorded, transcribed and you had opportunities to review both of those transcripts? >> yes. >> in fact, i think yesterday when you met with

>> yes, sir. >> and it includes interviewing witnesses. >> that's correct. >> and the critical incident policies at the bureau of criminal apprehension were followed in this particular case, right? >> yes, sir. >> when you conducted the first search of the mercedes-benz back on may 26, 2020, you were present when that happened, right? >> some of the time. >> but another crime scene analyst would have taken photographs and looked at things and preserved that both digitally with photographs plus keeping the actual evidence? >> yes, a bca agent. >> is that mckenzie anderson? >> [inaudible] >> he was also part of the crime scene team? >> yes, sir.. >> so, again, your job is to investigate the case, right? >> yes, sir. >> and so, did you review those photographs? >> yes. >> did you take note at that the time of the presence of pills in the mercedes-benz? >> [inaudible] i did not. >> and so, it's not that you didn't preserve the evidence, you just didn't notice it. >> correct. >> and again, based on what you have learned about what happened in this case, you were not looking necessarily for anything of that nature, right? >> correct. >> be

bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yes, the few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister mister for saying i do lieve >> with all different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> now, as you know, for reporting today in court, largely focused on george floyd's drug use when his testimony will begin again tomorrow morning, though, the lawyers may meet with the judge publicly before that to hash out some legal issues. you can find the latest on the trial on our website, kron 4 dot com. an east bay community is on edge after this video of an arrest by hayward. police officers are accused of using excessive force as they took a man into custody. this happened on sunday. you can see keith swain being kicked a

bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yesw that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister mister for saying i do lieve >> with all different than what you are asked about. we saw.

of this investigation based on information? >> yes. >> and what was decided. >> that the bca would be in charge of the operation, the state bureau of criminal apprehension. >> and when that decision is made, what's the role of minneapolis police at that scene? >> well, first it's to support the bca investigative team with whatever they might need that night. and also, it's to secure the witnesses that we may find to see if they would be willing to talk to the bca. also, it's when you're at a scene, trying to locate any video cameras again and filling in the bca agents that arrived. >> and in fact, at some point did bca agents arrive? >> yes. >> and when they arrived, just describe a little for the jury what the process is upon their arrival. >> yeah, the bc agents-- generally or specifically in this case? >> just generally. >> when the bca arrives, they'll come up to you for a briefing and you tell them what you have at the scene or what you've learned, and where people are at, you know, in this case, the officers were brought to room 100, that kind of thing. and then you tell them, or you ask them what help they might need. >> and then specifically did som

minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, who investigated the police floyd's pained voice is heard while he's being restrained >> does it appear that mr. floyd said, "i ate too many drugs"? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: the prosecution had a dramatically different interpretation when it played a longer clip >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes i believe mr. floyd was saying "i ain't do no drugs." >> reporter: at the courthouse this week -- >> this is nail-biting i can say. >> reporter: george floyd's youngest brother rodney, who watched multiple officers take the stand. >> i've never seen chief officers willing to testify against their own. we need more of that across this country. accountability that's it. >> reporter: late today the prosecution called several witnesses who examined pills found in the back of the police squad car. investigators testified the pills contained meth lester >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. >>> president biden turned up the heat on congress today to pass his massive infrastructure plan while saying he is open to compromise on taxes. kristen welker is at the white house. kristen, what's the president

bureau of criminal apprehension anything as well as an f.b.i. agent in christopher way or cracks and you have you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview that 1st interview yes. you were also then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case right. he's i'm going to december 14th when he does believe me if i told you that i believe you ok. then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the f.b.i. agents and some prosecutors from the federal government yes. and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21st of this year 25th of this year. and then finally on march 31st which i believe was just yesterday. and you understand again that you that at least the meetings with law enforcement they were recorded transcribed and you had opportunities to review both of those transcripts and in fact i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors you went through the f.b.i. transcript from that meeting back in june i think in ok. so. i know that you and mr floyd both struggled with opioid addiction and i just need to ask some kind of follow up question the amount of time friends. when you 1st not mr floyd

brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> asking certain listened to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, appear that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure you're saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do >> with all different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that jonelle ford reporting a witness testimony will begin again tomorrow morning, though lawyers may meet with the judge publicly before that to hash out some legal issues. a new report from the new york times claims that in battle. florida congressman matt gaetz asked the white house for a presidential pardon during the final weeks of the trump administration. the requests dismissed inside of the white house but the justice department is investigating whether or not gaetz had a relationship with a 17 year-old gi

bureau of criminal apprehension . >> in general what does your job entail ? >> assigned to the newly informed use of force investigation group . we conduct criminal investigations into uses of force incidents . >> are you a licensed peace officer ? >> yes sir. >> you're not typically wearing what we think of as a police uniform but when you work you have a uniform ? >> generally know, generally plainclothes . >> you mentioned well, when did you firstbecome licensed as a peace officer ? >> i started my law-enforcement career in 2007. >> let's run through your educational work experience before your job as a police officer. first of all, did you obtain like a four yearundergraduate degree ? >> i did. >> can you tell the jury what that is. >> i had a solution criminal justice. >> when did you achieve that? >> 2006. >> after that did you goto work in the field of law enforcement ? >> i served at the. [inaudible] nypd. >> did you do some training to be a nypd officer? >> it nypd at a six-month academy that i successfully. >> is that when you obtain yourlicense to be a peace officer ? >> yes sir. >> that was what year after mark. >> approximately 2007. >> how many years did you workfor the nypd ? >> approximately 4 and a half . >> can you de

yes. >> first interview that you provided was in may was on may 31st of 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension named nathan adams as well as christopher leonard? >> correct. >> you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview that first interview? >> yes. >> all right. youu were also then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >>e, december 14th -- >> december 14th. >> it could be. >> if i told you that -- >> i believe you. >> then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal f government, right? se>> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutorrings on february 25th of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31st which i believe was just yesterday -- right? andus you understand again, that you at least meetings with law enforcement they were recorded transcribed and you review both of those transcripts. >> yes. >> i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors you went through the fbi transcript from thattr in june? >> yes, i did.

then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked you to do for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. >> a different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was 40 reporting hearing. the often emotional testimony in trial can be difficult. we've posted links to helpful resources on our website. kron 4 dot com. >> 5.51. and now to the latest on the effort to recall governor newsome within the next few weeks. the secretary of state is expected to announce whether the supporters have gathered enough signatures to put this to a vote. both sides are discussing the issue. and new sums, chief strategist says that the recall is a republican attempt to gain power

then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yesthe few that mr floyd said i too, many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure what you're saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. >> i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. little different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was, you know, forte reporting hearing the often emotional testimony can be a little difficult and so we've posted some links that might be helpful to you on our website. some resources that you can avail yourself to the kron 4 dot com. >> some 49 is a time in the next few weeks of secretary of state is expected to announce to the recall against a governor newsome of the has enough signatures and it will go to a vote. both sides have been talking about what they think is going on here now, capitol bureau

then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yes, the few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying and i know. so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister florida same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do >> with all different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> geno ford reporting for us tonight. hearing the often emotional testimony in the trial can be tough for a lot of folks. we've posted links to a number of helpful resources on our website. kron 4 dot com. a new report claims embattled florida congressman matt, get gates asked the white house for a preemptive presidential pardon during the final weeks of the trump administration. >> the new york times is reporting that the request was quickly dismissed inside the white house. the justice department is investigating

yes or tell injures what that is i'm currently a 30 year doctoral student mary's university minnesota office on education and leadership. you have told us that you work for the bureau of criminal apprehension as are commonly referred to as the b.c.s. correct correct you describe for the juries what is the b.c. . so this is a state law enforcement agency we are under the umbrella of department of public safety. delineated to the 4 divisions investigated vision that i'm a part of we have the information service is a laboratory as well as a training section and we provide services to law enforcement agencies as well as the community and so your jurisdiction is generally where the state of minnesota. in may 25th of 2020. what were your duties as a special agent. i've currently the case asian on the investigator for this investigation so i was notified of the incident fairly quickly and you mentioned earlier about currently having a different assignments. here's point of the jury's how your assignment has changed from may 25th of last year to today so i'm back now i was in the metro homicide unit which investigated both homicide as well as officer involved incidents there's a newly formed force

yes. >> reporter: but one of the more significant exchanges came, when special agent took the stand, an agent with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension that led the investigation into the events of may 25th. the defense played him video from the scene. >> publish exhibit 1007. and i'm going to ask you, sir, to listen to mr. floyd's voice. did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd said, i ate too many drugs? >> yes, it did. >> reporter: but, minutes later, prosecutors played a longer clip from the same video. >> having heard it, in context, you're able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes, i believe mr. floyd was saying, i ain't do no drugs. >> so, that's a little different than what you were asked about when you only saw a portion of the video. correct? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: a key moment, as one of the defense's main theories is that floyd died, largely, from drugs in his system, combined with his medical history. earlier in the day, sergeant jody steiger, with the los angeles police department, was called by prosecutors as a use-of-force expert. and testified, like others have, the force derek c

yes. i have been a clinical instructor here at the university of minnesota department of pathology. i have done lots of law enforcement training through the bureau of criminal apprehensionre in minnesota, as well as oh my gosh, teaching everything from middle school science students through high school and college and all kinds of professional groups whether it is other forensic pathologists or other groups of law enforcement. you name the organization that comes into contact with death investigation and i have probably talked to some of them at some point. >> do you have any publications? >> that has not been a main focus of my career, but i was, i have several and early on was involved in a autopsy protocol that was ultimately published by the united nations that is still in use. >> so let's switch topics and talk about your experience testifying in courts. have you testified before in court? >> yes, probably over 100 times. >> is that predominantly in your role as a medical examiner? >> it is mostly in my role as a medical examiner. i did the autopsy and then the prosecution would call me to testify as to my findings. i have also testified as an expert witness, consu

yes. >> tell us about it. >> i have been a clinical instructor here ee at the university of minnesota, i've done lots of law enforcement training through the bureau of criminal apprehensionsh, teaching everything from, you know, middle school science students through high school and college and all kinds of professional groups whether it is other forensic pathologists, other law enforcement, you know, you name the organization that comes into contact with death investigation and i've probably talked to some of them at some point. >> do you have any publications? >> that hasn't been a main focus of my career. but i was -- i have several. early on was involved in a autopsy protocol that was ultimately published by the united nations that still in use. >> so let's switch topics and talk about your experience testifying in courts. you have testified before in court? >> yes, probably over 100 times. >> and is that predominantly in your role as a medical examiner? >> it's mostly in my role as a medical examiner where i did the autopsy and then the prosecution would call me to testify as to my findings. i've also testified as an expert witness consultant in cases where i didn't

yes. i have been a clinical instructor here at the university of minnesota apartment of ecology. i've done lots of law enforcement training through the bureau of criminal apprehension here inminnesota . as well as all my gosh, teaching everything from middle school science students through high school and college and all kinds of professional groups whether it's otherforensic apologist, other law enforcement . you name the organization that comes into contact with death investigation and i've probably talked to some of them at some point. >> the you have any publication? >> that has been the main focus of my career but i have several early on was involved in an autopsy protocol that was ultimately published the united nations. that's still in use. >> let's switch topics and talk about your experience testifying in court. as you testified before in court? >> yes, probably over 100 times. >> is predominantly in your role as a medical examiner? >> it's mostly in my role as a medical examiner where i did the autopsy and prosecution would call me to testify as to my findings. i've also testified as an expert witness consultant in cases where i didn't do the autopsy but