the author of "liberalism or how to turn good men into whiners,, and wimps," former nfl player, burgess owens, and reverend oliver white of grace community united church. reverent, as you know, i am a huge fan, i would love to get your thoughts on this. >> how are you doing, sean? >> first of all, i'm very proud to have a president who has the courage and the love for our country. this is a national conversation we should have been having for l many years. the problem we are having in the black community, the lack of hope, has not just appeared in the last few months. it has eight, ten years, with a black president who never addressed the issues that are happening. 83% of black males are not working. 70% of black men are abandoning their family. you caning go through the litanf failure and it's all because of a democratic, socialist agenda to make sure that missouri is the use a political strategy. i'm glad we can have this conversation and at the very end of the day, we will have solutions. >> sean: all facts, all true. reverend, i want to ask you, the fact is, the reality is, disproportiona

burgess owens, nfl great in his own right with us right now. what do you make of this burgess? >> hey, neil. how is it going? what you're seeing is what happens when you get a group of young men that go from not having any money at all to becoming wealthy. without going through the humble stage of middle class. they don't get it. a lot of hard-working people out there that pay their dollars to come in and respect a flag that gives everybody hope. i don't think it's going to work. what they need to do and what the nfl needs to do, that's what it comes down to, set parameters, if they want to demonstrate, do that in the locker room. let the fans enjoy the process of being there as a group to celebrate their team and their flag. i think we'll move along and get through this process as we go through. >> neil: the one thing that i read, you know better than i do, that might be a positive development, it's like how jerry jones and the dallas cowboys handles the cardinals game where they knelt prior to the national anthem, got up and stood still locked arms. maybe that's what they are

burgess owens, i'm wondering why the united states government should be subsidizing. this these guys hate the government. a lot of the stadiums they play in the majority are funded by taxpayers. the pentagon spends hundreds of millions a year advertising at nfl stadiums on broadcasts. why should they do this. if these guys hate america why are taxpayers picking up a lot of the tag? >> i don't think they should be. i think the free market is going to take care of that in itself. my whole concern with this whole process what the flag stands for. when i stood on the sideline i remembered getting teary eyed. i was so proud to be there and proud of the process. i also grew up in a time where 70% of black men were mentorinmentors to us. teaching us this country is the greatest play to be and grow in. we have come to the point because of liberalism. the democratic policies 70% of black men do not stay around. they don't have the parents and the fathers to tell them what they should be proud of and how they should stand up for this process. this is not a void. we are dealing

and i'll throw this to burgess owens. can owens come to the town hall? >> i would love to be there. >>people decided fighting under that flag, sir. >>can i please add in here, let me tell you what our flag and country represents. it's a place of hope and second chances. we have these young mean that are millionaires. they have no idea that they're the solutions. they've been brought up in a socialist liberal environment. let's not talk about the way a president talks. let's talk about what they do. personally, i'm sick and tired of us being portrayed as a hapless race. we're the freest country in the history of the mankind. we just elected a president for eight years. and here we are talking about oppressi oppression. give me a break. let's educate our kids. let's man up and tell people, "if i can do it, you can do it." we can get our country and race back, to be a race that i grew up in, a very proud, productive christian race. >>mr. burgess, some of the things you said i agree with. but you're not looking at the fact that a president of the united states, a person who holds the hi

come on in please, burgess owens, former nfl player.m, how to turn good men into winers, weenies and wimps. an ideal person for this program. if you were a player in the nfl, what would you do? >> good morning, stuart. i tell you what i did, i would do, feeling same way. i remember looking at the flag, getting teary-eyed at the time. because i realized how blessed i was to be on the field and what i wanted to do. i was raised by different generation. 70% of black families had a dad, mentoring, leading, guiding disciplining. now 70% of our community which men are absent. so, i want to just say this this is not in a vacuum. what is happening to our black community and disrespect of our flag has been a process over time. the left has outlawed god. they have destroyed the black family due to policies they put in place. they have deleted our history, our proud history. now they are taking away the hope of young people, young black people, who want to grow up and know american dream is real for them. this is all part of the process. not just

burgess owens agrees with jim brown on this.because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. itthe power of nexium 24hr protection from frequent heartburn. all day, and all night. now packed into a pill so small, we call it mini. new clearminis from nexium 24hr. see heartburn differently. when you switch to progressive. winds stirring. too treacherous for a selfie. [ camera shutter clicks ] sure, i've taken discounts to new heights with safe driver and paperless billing. but the prize at the top is worth every last breath. here we go. [ grunts ] got 'em. ahh. wait a minute. whole wheat waffles? [ crying ] why! brian: nfl season officially underway and so were the protests. look at this. kansas city chief over the patriots cornerback marcus peters decided to sit down during the national anthem. here to react author of liberalism, how to turn good men to noah whiners, wienies and wimps. ainsley: thank you for joining us? >> good morning. ainsley: what was your reaction to what marcus peters did. >> we have

and former safety and author of liberalism, how to turn good men into whiners, wienies and wimps burgess owens your thoughts? >> well, i don't really have a problem with it because there is still freedom of speech. again, when you talk about these stadiums. majority of stadiums are private property. if there is an issue, i think everyone should talk to the owners because you can't have freedom of speech on private property if the owners want everyone to stand. for example, buddy ryan, when i was playing, he made every player stand on the sideline and if you scratch or you move, you wipe sweat, you got fined $1,500. no one said anything about that. what is the difference the other way around? brian: right. i don't think anyone disputes you can, randal. it's whether you should, burgess. and i bring that to you. after the president's remarks on friday, i know you said you would always stand for the national anthem did. you change your mind after the president's remarks on friday. >> not at all. i think what we have to understand, guys, this is what the left does. they first of all ban god, they t

first get to burgess owens. first off, you watched that last night.our playing days. do you like the way dallas handled it, knee before the anthem stand arm in arm before the anthem. >> if they are going to make a message that's the best way to do it at this point. all about hope and. that's what our flag has. whatever they can do not to disrespect the flag and still guess the message out i'm okay with. brian: emily you heard more than a smattering of boos, the fans are divided from the players in many respects. emily come pagliano know is a former federal cheerleader and defense attorney most importantly you are here. emily, your thoughts on that? >> i agree with burgess. communication is the most important message remember that owners have the option of terminating players if their conduct is deemed detrimental. i think as this conversation progresses and we see there is a level of acrimony it might get to that level. brian: kyle ray yes, sir ceo with the silent partner marketing group most importantly, kyle, you are a dad. a lot of the dads are tur