islamic law as well as consistent with what the requirements are for a burial at sea and so that burial was done appropriately. >> so today lawmakers are urging possibly reconsidering or re-evaluating aid to pakistan, what -- >> i think people are raising a number of questions and understandably so. again, we're in just the first day after the operation, and he was found in abbottabad outside of islamabad. i'm sure a number of people have questions about whether or not there was some type of support provided by the pakistani government. so i think people are raising these questions. we're going to have to deal with them. >> is there a visual recording of this burial? >> we have to give other people a chance here. >> a quick question about the burial. was there an imam there? >> it was done appropriately with appropriate people there. >> okay. and a question, i don't know if this was for you or for jay, the president is going to speak to the bipartisan leadership tonight. what is he going to say about this that's different than what he said before and that's particularly geared to them?

but that burial has taken place.lace earlier today our time. >> when was that decision made that he would be buried at sea if killed. >> can you explain why? >> was this part of the plans all along? >> the coas, the course of action and the subsequent decision have been developed the last several months. the senior officials -- it was a working group working this on a regular daily basis the last several weeks, look at every decision, based on what type of scenario would unfold, what actions and decisions would be made. it was looked at from the standpoint if we captured him where would he go. if he was killed what would we do with him and where would he go. it was determined it was in the best interests of all involved that this burial take place according to islamic requirements at sea. it was determined -- there is a requirement in islamic law that an individual be buried within 24 hours. when inside of pakistan, carried out the operation. he was removed from pakistan. there were certain steps that had to be taken

>> burials at sea take place on a regular basis. the u.s. military has the ability to ensure that the burial is done in a manner that is consistent with islamic law as well as consistent with what the requirements are for a burial at sea. that barry was done perfectly. >> lawmakers are urging or reconsidering aid to pakistan? >> i think people are raising a number of questions, understandably so. he was found in abbottabad. a number of people have questions about whether he had support by the pakistani government. we will have to deal with the questions. >> is there an official recording? >> was there and imam there? >> it was done with the appropriate people there. >> the president was the to the leadership tonight at a dinner. what will he say about this that is different than what he said before? >> you will have another 20 hours of information sense what he said to the nation last night. i think he will try to give the congressional visitors hear an update on that. last night, we did not have some of the analysis that was done and now we

>> burial at sea take place regularly. the u.s. military is able to do that in a manner consistent with islamic law and requirements for a burial at sea. that burial was done. >> today, lawmakers are urging reevaluating aid to pakistan, military aid there. >> there are a number of questions, and understandably so. we are in the first day after the operation. he was found outside of islamabad. and sure plenty of people have questions about the support by the pakistani government. >> is there a visual recording of this burial? >> just a quick question -- was there an imam there? >> it was done appropriately, with the appropriate people there. >> the president is going to speak to the partisan -- the bipartisan community tonight at the dinner. what will he say that is different? can you give a preview? >> you are going to have another 20 hours of information that has been acquired since last night. what he is going to do is give congressional members hear an update. last night, he did not have some of the analysis that was done. now w

the islamic law and consistent with what the requirements are for a burial at sea, so that burial wasriately. >> and today, lawmakers are urging possibly reconsidering aid to pakistan and aid there, and -- >> well, there are a number of questions and understandably so, because we are again in the first day after the operation, and he was found in abottabad outside of islamabad and people have questions about whether there was support by the pakistani government, and people are raising this question, and now we will have to deal with them. >> and is there a -- >> we have to get past that. >> and one more question about the burial, was there and imam there? >> appropriate people were there. >> and tonight at the dinner, what will the president say about this and that is different than before and particularly geared to them? can you give us a preview? >> well, you have another 20 hours' information that was required since what he said to the nation last night. what he will try to do is to give the congressional visitors here an update on that. last night, we didn't have some of the analy

i'm less worried about the burial.ourselves from handling -- let's not -- the photograph is an interesting argument. let's not kid ourselves. releasing a photograph is not gonna keep the nuts inside the islamic world from believing it might not be bin laden. look, al-qaeda's spokesmen has called bin laden a martyr and said they would attack in retaliation for his murder. if they not going to be convinced by bin laden's own mouthpiece that he's dead. releasing a photograph, let's not kid ourselves, if when we lease the photograph it is not going to convince people he's dead. even his own compatriots have nouned he's dead that's why they want to hurt us in retaliation. it is because we want to demonstrate to the jihadists and islamic world we are capable of taking out their leaders in a brutal fashion. as this necessarily was. >> sean: i think this is a huge vindication. after 9/11, everybody supported going after them. there was really two people, i would include you as a third, in government. president bush and vice pr

[everyone talking at once] burial at sea -- excuse me! i get to finish my sentence. burial at sea is an established way of -- [everyone talking at once] excuse me! >> hold your fire! >> it's where life began and decomposing in the ocean is not a bad way to go, especially -- >> hold on, please! hold on! you've got to preserve the civility of pat buchanan, all right? >> one guy with the phd in islamic study and let's not use him as an expert in the muslim world at all. [everyone talking at once] got us into the iraq war, and used used the logic of shock and awe that provoked multiple acts of terrorism and the iraq war. >> the cs is about more than shouting on a talk show. >> exit question -- will radical islam as a movement die with bin laden? or will it have a second life under new leaders? >> this is a multi-generational conflict. >> there are various al-qaeda franchises and there's self- radicalization even among americans, so no, this does not die out. but i think al-qaeda was a sideshow in the middle east in recent years, and i think good riddance. >> jihadee ideo

host: why the burial at sea?uest: if they buried him at land, it might have been seen as a shrine. they are opposed to that. i think to be on the safe side, they buried him at sea. host: you with the former unit chief of the bin laden unit at the cia. he started it -- you started it. why? guest: we could not go after hezbollah because so much of the money was in religious institutions. the white house did not want to go after them. we went after osama bin laden the cost after the war with the soviets, in his name and began to turn up all over the world. in yemen, in chechnya, in east pakistan, and east africa. not that he was in command of all those places, but he had provided money, training, false documents, rhetoric on tape that was used. and so we set up a unit to decide whether or not he was indeed a threat or just another saudi spendthrift. it turns out he was a very hands-on military commander. host: what kind of reaction did you get from your superiors when you did this? guest: the request came down from

there are those who are opposing this manner of burial. is there something about i islamic law who says you can't bury somebody at sea? >> there is nothing in islamic law that says that that i know of. but i want to caution you that not a scholar on these issues so i don't to overstate misqualifications. but islamic law is flexible. if you're at sea and the body is there, i think that it is permissible given that there are lastic interpretations based on circumstances. >> all right. representative keith ellison, many thanks, sir. >> thank you. >>> while the administration celebrates the killing of osama bin laden,there is no question that serious domestic issues also top the agenda. among them, gas prices. we'll talk with a senator up next who wants to know why prices are so high when oil companies are bringing in record profits. ♪ got brass in pocket... ♪ gonna use my, my, my, imagination. ♪ the new blackberry playbook. ♪ cos i'm gonna make you see ♪ there's nobody else here, no one like me. ♪ small enough to take anywhere. powerful enoug

burial in the north arabian sea for osama bin laden.hile government did it to keep with islamic tradition, it is upsetting some who are looking for proof of his death. fox's ainsley earhart has the story. >> reporter: osama bin laden's body was buried at sea from the u.s.s. carl vinson. >> there is a requirement in islamic law that an individual be buried within 4 hours. we thought that the best way to ensure that his body was given an appropriate islamic burial was to take those actions that would allow us to do that burial at sea. >> reporter: despite those considerations, there has been an uproar and a protest in pakistan where bin laden was killed. >> you know, 100% of the people, they are not sure that he is dead. they want to see, see the body, you know. >> we don't have a body. we discovered that this man who is responsible for so many american deaths actually got the chance to have his islamic burial rites performed. i find that very offensive. >> reporter: the pentagon says bin laden's body was washed and then placed in a white

[everyone talking at once] burial at sea -- excuse me! i get to finish my sentence. burial at sea is an established way of -- [everyone talking at once] excuse me! >> hold your fire! >> it's where life began and decomposing in the ocean is not a bad way to go, especially -- >> hold on, please! hold on! you've got to preserve the civility of pat buchanan, all right? >> one guy with the phd in islamic study and let's not use him as an expert in the muslim world at all. [everyone talking at once] got us into the iraq war, and used used the logic of shock and awe that provoked multiple acts of terrorism and the iraq war. >> the cs is about more than shouting on a talk show. >> exit question -- will radical islam as a movement die with bin laden? or will it have a second life under new leaders? >> this is a multi-generational conflict. >> there are various al-qaeda franchises and there's self- radicalization even among americans, so no, this does not die out. but i think al-qaeda was a sideshow in the middle east in recent years, and i think good riddance. >> jihadee ideo

i think it was prudent to give him a proper burial.moves any thought that there will be a shrine to osama bin laden or grave robbing or any other lasting impact for his death. i think it was best done and to lessen the impact for those that want to make him a more than what he was. >> do you see any change? how do you expect things will shift appeared? >> i get a little confused when they say they want troops pulled out of afghanistan, because we are pursuing a al qaeda in other parts of the world, when the taliban is fighting us right now and they are the ones that keep a safe haven to al qaeda to operate and plan the 9/11 attacks in afghanistan. we have to be careful not to find these national security issues that happened for the positive or the-to define all the other things that we have to do. this demonstrates that it is a global war on terrorism. each place will require different operations, a different plane, a different intelligence techniques, a different military operation techniques. -- different planning, different intelli

the navy says the al qaeda founder got a proper muslim burial at sea, and president obama addressed the nation. >> the death of bin laden marks the most significant to date in the effort to defeat al qaeda. >> reporter: people came to the white house and to ground zero in new york. a victory celebration at ohio state university, even harsh obama critics offered praise. >> president obama and his national security team acted on the intelligence when it came in, and they deserve a lot of credit. >> reporter: but as the nation celebrates. >> justice was served. >> reporter: this is shanksville, pennsylvania. law enforcement is on extra alert. >> this is a key moment, because al qaeda has to avenge. >> reporter: and osama bin laden's organization is not dead. so how did the world's most wanted man hide in plain sight, not in a cave or mountains but in the mansion? senior lawmakers and aides at the white house say the pakistani military has got some explaining to do. i'm steve handelsman in washington. now let's go to new york. michelle franzen's reporting. michelle? >> reporter: thanks, ste

society's declined the burial. is that true? >> we took steps we had agreed to in the interagency to ensure that the burial at sea was the appropriate thing to do. i will not go into any details about who we might have consulted with in the aftermath of his death and before his burial. >> mr. brennan, can you give us details on whether there were previous operations called a last-minute -- called off at the last minute, and the inability to identify bin laden's body positively -- >> there were different courses of actions and options available to present, as to whether there would be an assault on the ground, or some type of a stand- off option for yet discussed all the pros and cons of them, and through the process of discussion, the options were narrowed down until the president decided this was the best option, because it gave us the ability to minimize collateral damage, ensure that we knew who it was that was on that compound, as opposed to taking some type of strike there, and also as a way to do what we could to respect t

i am less worried about the burial.ourselves from being criticized for hagging the body, any body in a callous way, by doing that. but the photograph's an interesting argument for me. let's not kid ourselves. releasing a photograph is not going to keep the nuts inside the islamic world from believing it might not be bin laden. al qaeda spokesman has called bin laden a martyr and said they will attack the united states and the west in retaliation for his murder. if they are not convinced by bin laden's own mouthpiece, let's not kid ourselves, if we release a photograph, it won't convince people that he's dead. even his own compatriots have announced he is dead. that's why they want to hurt us in retaliation. we want to demonstrate to the gehaddists and islamic worlds we are capable of taking out their leader there is a brutal fashion, as this necessarily was. >> i think this is a huge vindication because, in spite of polls, after 9/11, everybody supported going after them, going after them. but there was really two peopl

so why the need to be so religious in the burial?rywhere are offended this guy was treated with religious honors. i spoke to a muslim friend of mine who said the same thing today. that is like timothy mcveigh being buried in arlington cemetery. i have would haven't wrapped him in white cloth. i would have sewed him up in bucon and buried him under the 50-yard line of the stadium. i could sleep well knowing he spent all of eternity in new jersey. the fact we went through the lengths to make the statement should tell you something about those inspired by osama bin laden. she a mass murderer if we say -- i'm thinking outloud -- encrusted his body in bacon bits, they would have flipped. they flip over a cartoon. this man has called thousands of innocent people. sorry, when you do that you lose the whole respectful burial thing in my book. i'm more than okay with him hearing "touchdown, giants," while he waits for the 72 virgins in unusually warm temperature for all of eternity. but that is a debate for another day. today our focus should

the last thing about the burial, this has been described, the burial at sea as according to islamic tradition the world don't really know what islamic tradition the united states appears to be talking about. burial at sea, having your body dumped off the side of an aircraft carrier is not any islamic tradition that anyone in this part of the world heard of. >> the u.s. military clarified and said they were trying just to meet the 24-hour deadline or whatever, however you want to describe it, for getting the body interred, but -- and the fact was they said, you know, we understand that burial at sea was really only advisable in muslim tradition when there was no other option, but in this case, they were concerned about trying to get a country to accept the body and also worried about it becoming a shrine for others then too. >> yeah. >> richard, thank you so much for the report there from benghazi. >>> we're getting new details about how the raid on osama bin laden's compound went down. two special ops teams of navy s.e.a.l.s flew to the compound in the dead of night. one of the choppers went

burial at sea. sandra endo has more on that and what the government agents are doing with material confiscated from terrorist leader's compound. >> reporter: with the world's most-wanted terrorist dead, the mission shifts to better understanding his network and identifying threats. the same raid that killed osama bin laden also found and confiscated computers and other items. >> what type of support did he have outside of the compound? >> reporter: while president obama and his top officials waited anxiously in the situation room for word that bin laden was dead, one man living near the compound was tweeting about the raid. >> i heard the explosions. it took my windowpanes. >> reporter: president obama remains adamant that even though the al qaeda leader is

. >> reporter: there is video footage of bin laden's burial at sea. a few people here at the white house have seen it. the president has not. by the way, brian, i can also report the president has talked personally to a couple of those navy s.e.a.l.s that participated in the killing and capture of bin laden. >> all right, and chuck todd, as you reported last night, after that tense night in the white house, later, they were able to hear from inside the white house the kind of spontaneous uproar across the street as people flowed into the secretes of washington, d.c. and the park across from the white house to celebrate the news. all of this brings us back to richard engle, who is in libya. and richard, you and i have on occasion been given a good glimpse inside u.s. military special operations. but no one can match your time embedded with the u.s. military or speak with the authority you have on this ten-year effort to find this one man. >> it is incredible when you look back at it. ten years, america's war on terrorism, and how costly it has been. a

there are principles in islamic law surrounding burial.that the grave should be deep enough to protect the body that could be protection from animals, it could be protection from an enemy of the deceased. the body should be laid on its right side facing toward mecca, the muslim spiritual center located in saudi arabia. as far as burial at sea goes, only in very rare circumstances is this permitted according to muslim scholars. if someone is making a pilgrimage to the haj, the person dies onboard a boat at sea, it might be acceptable. another case when it might be acceptable, according to some scholars, is if there's an enemy that might exhume or desecrate the body. all of those security concerns came into play here. >> carl, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >>> top of the hour. i want to get you up to speed. the public waits to see if the white house will release photographs of bin laden's body inside his home in pakistan. cia director leon panetta says he thinks a picture should and will be made public. some u.s. offic

host: why the burial at sea? guest: if they buried him at land, it might have been seen as a shrine. they are opposed to that. i think to be on the safe side, they buried him at sea. host: you with the former unit chief of the bin laden unit at the cia. he started it -- you started it. why? guest: we could not go after hezbollah because so much of the money was in religious institutions. the white house did not want to go after them. we went after osama bin laden the cost after the war with the soviets, in his name and began to turn up all over the world. in yemen, in chechnya, in east pakistan, and east africa. not that he was in command of all those places, but he had provided money, training, false documents, rhetoric on tape that was used. and so we set up a unit to decide whether or not he was indeed a threat or just another saudi spendthrift. it turns out he was a very hands-on military commander. host: what kind of reaction did you get from your superiors when you did this? guest: the request came down fro

host: why the burial at sea? guest: if they buried him at land, it might have been seen as a shrine. they are opposed to that. i think to be on the safe side, they buried him at sea. host: you with the former unit chief of the bin laden unit at the cia. he started it -- you started it. why? guest: we could not go after hezbollah because so much of the money was in religious institutions. the white house did not want to go after them. we went after osama bin laden the cost after the war with the soviets, in his name and began to turn up all over the world. in yemen, in chechnya, in east pakistan, and east africa. not that he was in command of all those places, but he had provided money, training, false documents, rhetoric on tape that was used. and so we set up a unit to decide whether or not he was indeed a threat or just another saudi spendthrift. it turns out he was a very hands-on military commander. host: what kind of reaction did you get from your superiors when you did this? guest: the request came down fro

bridge , a lot -- there's video of this burial at sea. we are told that he is not a muslim. because he represents a hijacked version of islam. which believes in 72 virgins in heaven. yet they bury him within 24 hours at sea, all these efforts to clean the body. to wrap him up. all these efforts, 40 minutes on the uss vinson translated into arabic. >> here's the confusion and the wrong messages we are sending. it shows our enemy that we ourselves are not clear as to who we are fighting and what we are fighting. the president is talking from both sides of his mouth. he's not really a muslim but we give him a burial like islamic royalty this is validating the radical islamist point of view. of their supremacy over the united states. they are looking at america's behavior. they are thinking even americans subconsciously acknowledge that our religion is superior to theirs and they must do these rituals to honor. they are using it to their advantage that is boosting their morale and making us look weaker. >> sean: there's a hypersensitivity, he's not a muslim but gets full islamic

it is the white house's account of this burial.on to handle his body that way at sea. >> the burial of bin laden was done in conformance with islamic practices. the deceased body was washed and placed in a white sheet. the body was placed in a weighted bag and prepared religious remarks translated into arabic by a native speaker. the body was placed on a prepared board tipped up and the deceased body eased into the sea. >> this is an exception that someone would have been killed on land and then taken to sea and buried is an exception but permissible. >> so you don't take exception to the exception? >> no, no. i think that there is some wisdom to this, that perhaps his grave, if there was a nation that would take him, his grave would become a shrine to terrorists and so perhaps there was some, if you could call this islamic jurisprudence that was being adjusted so that it could achieve a strategic end but it is permissible in keeping with the tradition. >> there are the soldiers that looked osama bin laden right in the eye before p

that was actually the burial 59 sea video clip. let me ask you about that as well. general mccaffery, realistically here, they didn't want there to be a grave, right, where people can come and it could be a shrine of some sort. that was certainly part of the decision? >> yeah, i think so. we've had a tremendous continuing problem with saddam hussein's burial site in tikrit as a focal point. so the thought was dispose of it, cover yourself by saying we did it in accordance with islamic rules, but get rid of the body where it can't remains as a continuing problem. it was a smart move, one of many in this operation. >> let me go back to the brennan video on the courageous operation. let's watch that real quick. >> there was nothing that confirmed that bin laden was at the compound, therefore when president obama was faced with the opportunity to act upon this, the president had to evaluate the strength of the information, and then made what i believe was one of the most gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory. >> so, general mccaffery, let's talk about that de

there is also a video of the burial at sea. intelligence agencies are telling us that there was indeed -- just to backtrack on that for a second. we don't know whether or not they are going to release the video of the burial at sea. there are still photos we understand as well. that will be the main discussion in the briefing room. you've heard about the treasure trove of material that they found. according to jennifer griffin at the pentagon reporting this she says there actually was more intel, more data than you might expect from a man who was very worried about his security. he has had quite a bit of information. that has gone to language lee and is being analyzed as all of that comes in. there are reports that bin laden's wife and children are in pakistani custody. we are hearing more about that as well. you might have wondered. what happened to all of the family members there. wouldn't they want to question them. they are in pakistani custody. given the complex relationship that we have with them we'll see how that goes.

evergreen cemetery in oakland is the burial site for 400 temple members. a memorial being built there including jim jones, the man who ordered the mass suicide. it angered survivors and they went to cord. jones son said he is baffled by the opposition. >> i think the key thing is that it say place of remembrance. a memorial to a tragedy that is overdue. >> another hearing is set for hraergt -- set for later this month. >>> construction is under way at berkeley stadium. they are keeping the outside but the interior will be rebuilt and retrofitted. the vault runs under the project. the cal bears will play this football games at at&t park. >>> bike to workday went smoothly. hundreds of people traded four wheels for two. they are hoping they will keep it up. san francisco transportation officials say it increased 58% in the past four years. some riders say it say healthy response to the rise in tkpwaz lean prices, bridge tolls and phatsz transit faressism the bay area is getting high marks when it come toes public transit. the area including san francisco, oak

burial at sea is burial at sea. is not necessarily a ceremonial burial at sea.an bury them in a full funeral celebration, or you can bury them in an unmarked grave. this was unable to cope lent of the letter read the reason that the -- did this was not -- this was the naval equivalent of a letter. the reason that they did this was not to honor osama bin laden at all. i understand exactly why they did it. as far as treating his body with respect, watching him in accordance with islamic law, trying to do things as respectfully as possible, i think that reflects greatly on our values. the way we treat, especially have a slip through some of the dishonorable practices -- having lived through some of the dishonorable practices with the way we treated detainees -- the way we treat detainees, at the enemy dead, prisoners of war, reflects a lot on american values. the u.s. navy and military in general did this quite well. if i could just close by thanking you and your family for your service to this nation, it is greatly appreciated. thank you. host: andrew exum is a fe

. >> his body was flown from helicopter to carl vincent where he was given a proper muslim burial at sea. there are new details about how they found him in abbottabad. eight times the size of anything nearby by the pakistani security forces still managed to miss it. 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed while in cia custody provided key information about a courier close to bin laden. it took seven years, but the cia eventually identified that courier and tracked him to the compound where bin laden was killed. >> well, it hasn't yet been 48 hours yet but we know that the president has already talked to some of the navy s.e.a.l.s but they have not said if he talked to the navy s.e.a.l. that killed bin laden. there is a recording of the burial at sea and there are members of the national security team has viewed already and there is obviously the visual proof of bin laden's wounded and deceased body. >> it's a real controversy whether to release and what to release. talking to people who have seen the photo, it's described as very gruesome. recall that bin laden was shot twice right ov

army base in afghanistan and on the aircraft carrier during the burial at sea. all of those photos will not be released by the white house or the president, but the united states has provided proof of kill photos before including sad dam hussein's sons which brought outrage in the islamic community, something the u.s. does not want repeat again. >> thank you. >>> a few u.s. senators are talking about this decision not to release the photographs of bin laden. republican senators john mccain and kay bailey hutchison are siding with the president. >> that's a judgment that has to be made by the president and taking all things into consideration. my initial -- my initial opinion is that it's not necessary to do so. >> i think that a doubter is going to doubt a picture as much as they doubt dna evidence and every other verification that we have given. >> now they spoke after a closed door meeting wednesday with cia directorially on pay net director. the navy seals who reportedly took out bin laden are back in the u.s. we do not know the names of the seals involved in

the sea burial was decided according to the spokesperson because finding a country willing to accept bin laden's remains would have been difficult. now the raid on bin laden took place in pakistan. u.s. forces entered the terrorist leaders compound yesterday. this is video showing the compound on fire shortly after the raid. u.s. forces reportedly shot bin laden in the head during a 40 minute long fire fight. it's believed that bin laden had the compound built five years ago. white house officials say they learned of the hiding place earlier this year. >>> now president obama announced the killing of osama bin laden in a dramatic white house speech last night. >> a small team of americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. no americans were harmed. they took care to avoid civilian casualties. after a fire fight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> in his speech the president said bin laden was not a muslim leader. he called bin laden a mass murder of muslims. and the president reaffirmed that the u.s. is not at war with musli

. >>> we are also learning more about the burial at sea. bin laden was dropped into the arabian sea from an aircraft carrier. >> navy did that to keep with islamic tradition of burying people within 24 hours of their death. as fox's ainsley earhart shows us, it is upsetting some who are looking for proof of bin laden's death. >> osama bin laden's body was buried at sea from the u.s.s. carl vinson. >> there is a requirement that an individual be buried within 24 hours. we shot the best way to ensure that his body was given appropriate -- an appropriate islamic burrial was to take those actions that would allow us to do that burial at sea. >> reporter: despite those considerations, there has been an uproar and a protest in pakistan where bin laden was killed. >> you know, 100% of the people, they are not sure that he is dead. they want to see the body, you know. >> we don't have a body. we discover that this bhoon is responsible for so many american deaths actually got the chance to have his islamic burial rites performed. find that very offe

more questions about the burial at sea are arising.akistan's isi says it was an intel failure, the whole thing, on their part. so what did they really know? >>> amazing new pictures show just how close general petraeus was to where bin laden was hiding on his recent visit. all that, and we await briefings at the state department and the white house. all that, coming up at the top of the hour on "america live". >> jon: major questions being raised now about bin laden's hideout in pakistan. we have been scouring the planet to find this guy for years. turns out he was essentially hiding in plain sight. his fortified compound, built in an affluent neighborhood where many of pakistan's retired military leaders also lived. the u.s. believes he might have been there for five years, maybe six. and likely had a pretty significant support system. pakistan's president denies his government protected bin laden. let's talk about it with republican congressman mike rodgers, chairman of the intelligence committee. before we get to that, i want to ask

. >> reporter: in some cases burials are being claimed. the claim bureaucracy is buried in backlogs. >> reporter: services today for an 87-year-old man. his wife died and he got back with his high school sweetheart. >> the problem that we are facing is the inability to complete the required documentation that is needed whenever anyone passes away. >> reporter: in sonoma county they aren't buried in paperwork but funeral directors say bureaucracy prevents them from burying people as fast as they want. >> the county is slow due to the fact there was three full time and occasionally even a fourth person in an office that now has one person. >> reporter: this is the office. vital statistics. the one person that named claudia. she handles applications now for medical marijuana and last week she was sick. >> when government officials start cutting and cutting do they really look at the repercussions. >> there was one person doing it yesterday but we went through the county process and we have actually hired a new person and they started today. >

it was a sea burial. our understanding from u.s. officials is the plan was to do a burial off the u.s. s. carl vincent, that is the only aircraft carrier that the u.s. has in the regs and we have seen nothing to continue district that the plan went ahead. there has been no mention that the plan did not no all right. we do not have any confirmation in the ship at this time. we know it was the plan to bury him at see off the u.s. s. carl vincent. jon: there have been reports that the pakistanis have been interrogating members of the compound. >> reporter: there were three families at the compound, the osama bin laden family, and the two tu the couriers that were taking messages. this was eight times the size of other buildings in the area. these family members nobody was taken alive aboard the u.s. helicopters when they took off outside the compound after about 40 minutes. the raise lasted 40 minutes. i am told, those individuals who survived were taken out in a field, sent back away from the compound so when they exploded the blackha

burial at sea is burial at sea. is not necessarily a ceremonial burial at sea.you can bury them in a full funeral celebration, or you can bury them in an unmarked grave. this was unable to cope lent of the letter read the reason that the -- did this was not -- this was the naval equivalent of a letter. the reason that they did this was not to honor osama bin laden at all. i understand exactly why they did it. as far as treating his body with respect, watching him in accordance with islamic law, trying to do things as respectfully as possible, i think that reflects greatly on our values. the way we treat, especially have a slip through some of the dishonorable practices -- having lived through some of the dishonorable practices with the way we treated detainees -- the way we treat detainees, at the enemy dead, prisoners of war, reflects a lot on american values. the u.s. navy and military in general did this quite well. if i could just close by thanking you and your family for your service to this nation, it is greatly appreciated. thank you. host: andrew exum is

the decision for a sea burial was made because they felt finding a country accepting of his body would be difficult. >> the president issued a statement saying that he congratulated president obama. president bush added... >>> the fight against terror goes on, however but tonight, america has sent an unmistakable message. no matter how long it takes, justice will be done. >>> as news of bin laden's death spread, a large crowd gathered in front of the white house. many were celebrating and chanting u.s.a., u.s.a.! and waking american flags and hand-made signs. >> the crowds remain in front of the white house for several hours after the president's announcement. surae chinn joins us live from outside the white house with more on the reaction to the news. surae? >> well, good morning. you know, people wanted a place to celebrate. they wanted this historic moment to go somewhere and they chose in front of the white house. there were spontaneous crowds that formed here. things have since quieted down but most likely, formed back throughout the day. here's what it looked like a couple of hou

he hijacked islamic. >> iranian press tv took offense to bin laden's burial at sea. but the reaction was not too severe. we have a programming note for you. there will be a special one hour edition of world news with diane sawyer and then abc 7 news from 6:30 to 7. night line will have an hour long special tonight. >> web surfers becare. how hackers are using bin laden's death as an opportunity to wreak havoc on your computer. >> and what was the smoke on the peninsula that is raising air quality concerns. >> summer-like warm midweek. temperatures will hit the nines. the news continues in o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

test to make sure it was him and promptly got rid of the body as they put it following islamic burial tradition while the symbol of america's war on terror seems to be done with the war on terror itself is not it is death does not mark the end of our effort there is no doubt that al qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us we must and we will remain vigilant at home and abroad the u.s. has been long chasing all kind of beyond of ghana's then borders in yemen those of being covert drone strikes in pakistan they were overt and widely criticized for the scores of civilians killed in the attacks the question some ask now is could the success of killing bin ladin in pakistan give the u.s. more of a carte blanche were carrying out strikes in other countries it will be used to justify further wars greater repression and more acts church or judicial targeted assassinations against political opponents and this is true whether and libya and iraq and pakistan and afghanistan many analysts say mary kiss war on terror so far has been a double edged sword that involves fighting terror and p

they say the burial at sea adds to their doubts since there are no ways to verify the claim. >>> we're also hearing about a warning that al qaeda has hidden a nuclear bomb in europe that they claimed would be set off if osama bin laden were ever captured or killed. reportedly that's what the master mind of the september 11 attacks told interrogators at guantanamo bay. that's according to to documents released by wikileaks. however, officials say many of his statements have proven to be unfounded. >>> the discovery that osama bin laden had been living in a mansion in pakistan has some people wondering if the government in pakistan knew he was there all the time. coming up at 6:15 we're going to have a live report from washington d.c. where some members of congress are now questioning the billions of dollars in aid that the u.s. gives to pakistan to fight terror. >>> now we will continue to cover this story throughout the morning. we have more on the death of osama bin laden on our website as well ktvu.com. there's a special section that includes illustrations of bin laden's compound as

if you look at the burial on a warship where they say he is not a muslim but he gets, you know, islamic custom, buried within 24 hours, dumped at sea after his body is washed. he is put in a showd, 45 minute funeral translated into arabic seems overboard to me. >> well, but, again, you are dealing with an administration that is very, very politically correct. and so i'm glad that there is not a body in some memorial garden some place where people can go and rally around it and use that to instill, perhaps, more terrorism for decades to come. i'm glad the body is gone. i don't think, quite frankly, we needed to have it parked in some, as i say, memorial garden somewhere. second of all, we know that this is a very politically correct administration. we know is he going to take the victory lap up at ground zero tomorrow. we should have expected he would capitalize on this. let me make an observation about the mission itself. there has been a lot of credit given and i think appropriately so, for a bold decision. it was not a courageous decision, quite frankly, jay dam being dropped in the m

the burial of bin laden was done in conformance with islamic precepts and practices. the deceased's body was washed and then placed in a white sheet. the body was placed in a weighted bag. a military officer read prepared religious remarks which were translated into arabic. after the words were complete the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, and the deceased body eased into the sea. that's the narrative that i can provide to you today. >> in what -- >> and i want to make clear this is again information that is fresh and we will continue to gather and provide to you details as we get them and we're able to release them. the resistance was throughout. as i said, when the assaulter entered the room where osama bin laden was, he was rushed by one individual in the room and the resistance was consistent from the moment they landed until the end of the operation. yes? >> jay, how did osama bin laden resist? if he didn't have his hand on a gun, how was he resisting? >> the information i have -- first of all, i think resistance does not require a firearm, bu

>> the efforts that were made to give osama bin laden an appropriate burial following islamic preceptsd traditions were considerable. however, i would also say that there is nothing -- the respect that was shown to him and his body was far greater than the respect that osama bin laden showed to the victims on 9/11 or any of his other victims. and that's because that's who we are. so we feel very comfortable with the fact that we took extraordinary measures to show that respect to the traditions of the islamic faith. >> my question is about the president's specific outreach to the muslim world. >> i think that you heard the president speak on sunday evening about the unbelievably important fact to make clear, that president bush made clear before president obamaing there are efforts in the fight against terrorists, against al qaeda, are not aimed at islam, are not aimed at muslims, and the fact is, that the cooperation and assistance provided by muslims around the world is essential to our fight and it's not about them because osama bin laden was not a muslim leader. he was a mass murde