and burke has come out for the first time, a lot of scrutiny with burke because of a smile that he had and john ramsay about that, being he talks to me about that, saying that that is burke's natural gaze. he is a fine young man. he was nine years old when this happened. it was a horrendous, brutal crime, and you will hear the details too of exactly what happened to her, and that burke could not and did not do it. of course, other theorists believe otherwise. >> you spent a lot of time with jonbenet's father, john ramsay. how has he lived with the unknown for 20 years now? >> it changed his life. he said he lost his reputation, he lost all of his money, he lost his privacy. that's why he lives and he doesn't want people to know where he lives, and it took quite a while for us to get to where he is, but he's remarried. he's moved on. i met his new wife, and it took a long time for him to find his new wife but she reminds me of what i think patsy would be like, exuberant, full of life, and he's got his children which he adores, and a picture of jonbenet on his television he said that reminds him daily.