the question i have for you is how closely do you identify with james burnsville, the suicide of the west, and which identify liberalism as the cause of the decline of america? >> tried to i think that's a book that stands out extremely well, that i think, and i would put it in the same category as top phils pathetic remarks in democracy in america, that it's much easier to lose liberty incrementally. people i think have a deluded idea about how tierney shows a. is not always good steps and jackboots. it's often in subtler ways. and i think both burnham and tocqueville, and other writers share a sense of the innovation that comes with the incremental loss of liberty. i would nudge because i think one of the big problems, i talked about in america alone, and also in "after america" is the demographic weakness which is liberalism so corrodes even the basic survival instinct, for example, that in europe it's led to collapse. in america we are not in the same situation but we have a basic problem that the baby boomers would not have enough children to pay for the mid-20th century entitle