burr was -- burr was not disgraced by the duel, per se. it was really the machinations of thomas jefferson that made very clear that burr had no political future. so burr decided what's he going to do? he's an ambitious man. and he did what generations and generations of ambitious young men have been doing. and that was he went to the west. what was he going to do in the west? ahh, this is the question. well, it almost certainly included either inciting or exploiting a war between the united states and spain. spain was then in control of florida. and then in control of mexico. and spain was bottling up the united states from territorial expansion which burr, like most everybody else in the united states, including thomas everyson, believed was inevitable and a good thing. -- jefferson, believed was inevitable and a good thing. i have been living in texas since the 1980s and i can tell you that what burr was accused of doing was what one of the founding fathers of texas, sam houston, actually did 30 years later. namely, go off into mexican

the people who were killed, in the case of the burr-hamilton duel, burr shoots, hamilton is hit and burr's first instinct is to run towards him. along the lines of what i suggested, i don't think he thought there was going to be bloodshed. >> in your research, i wonder if you came across the provision in the kentucky state constitution, which was still in effect in the 1970's when i went into the legislature, that you had to swear you had never fought in a duel or offered duels. >> that is really interesting. in the kentucky state constitution that said, if you were going into the legislature, you had to swear that you had never fought a duel. state officials. that is really interesting. because in the period that i am speaking about, from burr in hamilton and all the way through, dueling was illegal. the people doing the dueling were the lawmakers. they were elite and they felt that they could violate those laws with impunity -- a doing was illegal. there were people who were arrested for dueling but they weren't members of congress and delete folks. the question about swearing that you w

so burr did. after losing the new york election, he was looking for a way to redeem his reputation, lo and behold someone handed him a newspaper clipping that contained news of a dinner party were hamilton had insulted burr. burr used the clipping to initiate an affair of honor with hamilton, who had been attacking burr for 15 years at that point. because of some sloppy insulting exchanges between the two men during those long negotiations, along with 15 years' worth of insults, hamilton couldn't really apologize. in the end, both men felt insulted during the negotiations and obviously, they ended up dueling. i don't think either one of them wanted to kill the other. i know people think burr was an evil guy who wanted to kill hamilton. when you look at the letters before the duel, it doesn't seem that way at well. but they did end up dueling and there were tragic consequences. as i suggested earlier, this does not mean that burr won the duel. in some ways, he lost it. he fled town as did a flurry

that said, over time, burr -- hamilton thought burr was an opportunist in his politics, willing to do anything if it would get him ahead. he also thought burr was just as ambitious as he was. so he saw burr as a dangerous man because he thought this was an unanchored ambition, that burr would do anything to get what he wants and that was dangerous. so beginning in 1792, hamilton writes a letter and it says something like i consider it my religious duty to oppose burr's career. that is a statement -- my religious duty. from an early point, hamilton is opposed to burr and keeps coming up against him and burr sometimes doesn't react or steps back and allows it to go. there is evidence in the election of 1800 that they almost fought a duel and came out of it. when they are negotiating the final duel in their letters, hamilton says once before we almost did this, and burr says twice before we almost did this, so at least once, if not twice, they almost came to a duel. hamilton had a lot of distrust and dislike and some of it was because burr came from this noble background, the president o

burr would not have been there. they knew each other but -- they don't -- they're not close friends. that said, over time, burr -- how do i put this? hamilton thought burr was an opportunist in his politics. willing to do anything if it would get him ahead. he thought he was just as ambitious as he was. he saw burr as a dangerous man because he thought this was unanchored ambition. that burr would do anything to get what he wants and that was dangerous. in 1792, hamilton writes a letter. it says something like, i consider it my religious duty to oppose burr's career. that's a statement. my religious duty. from an early point, hamilton is opposed to burr and comes up against him. burr doesn't react or steps back and allows it to go. there's evidence in 1800 in the election that they almost fought a duel and came out of it before the 1804 duel. when they're negotiating the final duel, in their letters, i think hamilton says once before we almost did this and burr says, twice before we almost did this. at least once if

richard burr said this, quote.iew undercuts years of trump statements and trump mischief and allies claiming this was the work of some imagined deep state. michael steele and bob costa and sam stein are still with us. i remember when i was old enough to know this would have led the news. senate side finding that russia did put its finger on the scale for donald trump to help him win in 2016. >> not surprising, but yet another af amir mayion what was found. then the mueller report and now a republican committee. other groups and investigations have all found russian interference in the 2016 election. all of that evidence is clear -- by the russians it was not a hoax and that is the evidence. that is the fact. >> it's amazing, sam stein, that it has to be underscored and then it has to be held up as facts and that we don't even have any hope that the trump base will hear it, unless and until it comes from a trump ally like richard burr who has sort of morphed into a more trumpian figure than he was than when he start

bill burr, dave chappelle.e show i can't wait to find that podcast. actually somebody sent me a link so i can see it. >> two things on your list, "saturday night live" if you haven't seen it yet and that chappelle special. >> i checked that one out. now i just need that podcast >>> a family in arkansas did not let this pandemic stop them from adopting their son done completely online the 2-year-old jaden found his forever family with the weneke family they've been already fostering jaden for a year now they decide to officially adopt him as their own even though their court hearing couldn't be held in person they finallized his adoption over what else these days, a zoom video call >> i love how more and more people are just not letting the social distancing and having to stay at home stop them from being able to live their best lives. >> we have to do something to keep it going. >>> this next one talk show host andy cohen is speaking out after he was told he con give plasma because of his sexuality cohen who re

aaron burr, aaron burr wanted to be a brigadier general. he is applicationing for position, playing tutsi with the politicians. problem was he had already been so critical of george washington that that effort did peter out. there is portrait of major general hamilton that is not well-known. we don't know who the artist was. we don't know when it was painted, even who decade. he does have a federal era uniform on with a high color. it is u.s. army. we don't know what the medal is on his lapel. it was donated around 196 by john lawrence hamilton who went by lorry hamilton and it hangs at cincinnati heads in washed. otherwise known as anderson house. one man not known as much as jackieing for positions is ep knees ear hunting ton, who writes to his friend alexander hamilton and successfully receives an appointment from john adams to serve as a brigadier general in the war. this is a painting again by john trumible. there are two of these. one at princeton art museum here in new jersey. and also one down at anderson house in d.c. there are fiv

disintegrated and we have people like our own senator here in north carolina that senator richard burr who was caught not only dumping a whole bunch of shares $2000000.00 worth after he secret inside information about the coronavirus but it turns out it's even worse when senator richard burr not only engaged in obvious insider trading on the coronavirus after receiving intelligence reports on the looming pandemic but he also sold his townhouse to a farmer a lobbyist above market price for a tidy profit so here you have a guy who's supposed to be the legal system of the the moral code of the nation and congress and he was actually had these pharma before him in terms of business and he he sold his house to one of these lobbyist this 2 tracks here those 2 paths there's 2 answers one is looting right so looting has become institutionalized and congressman and senators don't. see any problem with looting they trade on inside information they glorify in it they trade stock tips down there a congress that's the primary reason they get together in congress is the trade stock tips and trade on

he is going to be killed by ehrenberg -- aaron burr. and a little bit about his military accomplishments. here is a portrait. like alexander hamilton, he also at one point served as an aide to general george washington during the revolutionary war. he serves the shortest. he was there about three weeks. there is the entire full-length portrait. it's it's in new york's city hall. i hope you take away an appreciation of his roles. not just as an aid to washington. he starts out as a captain. later he is a lieutenant colonel. this is probably one of the best-known portraits of him in uniform. that is the hat of a light infantry officer in yorktown late in the war. this is the portrait you probably have not seen. how many of you know that he was a major general in the u.s. army? we will get to that story and while bit. there is someone else who comes from humble beginnings, rose up on a remote island, and then comes to the mainland. becomes an incredibly famous military leader. napoleon bonaparte. there is an interesting comparison you can

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you got chairman burr in the middle of a scandal himself about what he knew and when he knew it because he managed to have enough information at least from the outside it looks like he sought to gain financially, who even has the ball i'm trying to get back to know when the white house knew from an intel standpoint. >> as you have, given senator burr's challenging it's likely to come from the house, that nancy pelosi the oversight, regarding coronavirus generally. i would say that like you, i talked to intelligence people current and former what's pretty clear is that the warnings were there in january and february. frankly it's not even having -- public health firms were sounding the aall right in january and february. either he was ignoring warnings or he wasn't reading the briefings. i want to add, what's so distressing about this, i have no doubt that the chinese aren't reporting the full truth. i also wish frankly that our governments could work together better in this, we're in an absolute public health crisis globally and what you don't see anywhere is coordinated international r

you will not even be allowed stand at the platform that's the new law of the land concerning burr because their trainrun across 4 of th5 counties that now require people to wear. masks in social gathering and that's why they're just logistically enforcinthis. you can clearly see the bird ains are not running like they used to right the ship is down 90% so even this new rule in effect does not impact the thousands of pele that we saw at the beginning a shelter-in-place but they want tomake sure that the writers are safe and th don't want is so caught ambushed, the writers at the platforms instead they willhave police officers at that machines at the gates to tell people who they see are not wearing their masks to go back to their cars. call ho grab their mass grow to some business and by one before they enter the bart location, otherwise they will not be allowed to go in keep in mindou don't need a mascot know they're very hard to find these days we've seen a lot of demonstrations where you can make homemade masks bottom line is if you cover your face and you show that you're trying. but w

hell of a lot more people dying by other causes then you will buy the coronavirus. >> laura: senator burr also, there was a moment at yesterday's press briefing that a lot of people had their eyebrows raised after watching it. i want to play it for you. watch. >> the road map also talks about doing gps for social distancing, maybe following people's phones and hotels for isolation for people. giving them free hotel rooms. are those ideas that you're looking out? speak of the gps is a very severe idea. i've been hearing about it. gps, siren goes off you go close to somebody? that's pretty severe. i just received, i received it a little while ago. >> laura: talking about the road map to recovery. the former commissioner wrote. part of that road map included a possible gps tracking, senator barrasso, of individuals under the state lockdown orders. do you support in any way the administration ever going even close to that. the president certainly didn't seem to believe that would be something we would require. >> i agree with the president, no i don't think we ought to go that way. this coron

my friends bill burr and mark marin, howie mandel and ray romano, eliza schlessinger, a lot of reallyerybody is going to do like five minutes, maybe a little more. and it is probably going to be extremely heart felt. you don't come on strong and try to do -- try to kill on something like this. it is people that have been blessed with some success in comedy. really trying to help those that need to pay medical bills, can't afford the rent, going deeply in debt. and a lot of them are going to be where a lot of the people are going to be performing one day, they just have to get through this hard time. it is comedy giving back. comedians giving back to their younger selves in a way. >> it sounds great. those are lots of headliners, it sounds like it will be entertaining. i want to let them know they can watch on the lap lounge app or twitch or twitter or comedy central's youtube channel. it is this saturday from -- on the east coast, 7:00 p.m. to 11:00. as a comedian, since you'll all be isolated, and you won't have a live audience, isn't it hard to be funny without hearing the laughter

you have written about madison and thomas jefferson as well as aaron burr. >> my first book is about the writing of the constitution. historyave always loved because the best stories are there. fiction writers come up with great stories. i write fiction and try to do that, but you really can't beat real life for zaniness. and i will simply allude to our current situation. [laughter] and after writing about the constitution, i was looking for another occasion where the constitution mattered or made a difference. and i thought the impeachment trial of andrew johnson was a time when really, after the civil war, the nations whether it would stay together, whether we would have a second civil war really turned on how the constitution was applied in an impeachment proceeding, and it was an event that riveted the nation for a hard time. it was a hard book at some level because of andrew johnson. he's not a very sweet guy. wasn't a sweet guy. he's a difficult person to live with as a historian. and he's earned his spot at number 42. [laughter] so, i had to find other people to sort of root f

show immune response they are remains fairly robust after a year and studies of how long sars and burrs patients continue to produce defensive antibodies against those who wrote the viruses seem to back that estimate up so what experts are hoping is that infection should provide some extent of immunity to most people for at least a year but it will take time to figure out. can you really use disposable masks if you leave them out for 3 days between wires this is a really tough question to answer because there's been so much debate surrounding not only the question of whether masks need to be worn by one but also whether or not they can actually prove dangerous if they're not put on properly or or handled correctly. disposable masks are made to be disposed of after a single use and the name the w.h.o. continues to recommend disposal after a single years but but masks are in short supply during the pandemic and even medical staff in many places are having to consider questions like whether they can be cleaned or re used the centers for disease control in the us recommends that when there

you were talking about adams and thomas jefferson, as well as aaron burr. >> my first book is about theonstitution. i just always loved history because the best stories are there. fiction writers come up with great stories. i write fiction and try to do you really can't beat real life for zaniness. i'll allude to our current situation. [laughter] and after writing the constitution, i was looking for another occasion where the constitution mattered or made a difference. johnson was a time when after the civil war, the nations whether it would stay together, whether we would have a second civil war turned on how the constitution was applied. it was an event that riveted the nation for a long time. it was a hard look at some level because of andrew johnson. he's not a very sweet guy. wasn't a sweet guy. he's a difficult person to live with as a historian. and he's earned his spot at number 42. so, i had to find other people to sort of root for. but it has proved to be an enduring interest. >> i'll ask you both this question and brian, feel free to weigh in here. why do you think the survey

show us who we really are especially who are chosen leaders really are like us congressman richard burr who in his position of senate intelligence committee chairman heard the news of the impending pandemic before the rest of us and chose to save his own ass set's while selling our physical and financial safety up the river or what about the united states department of justice who instead of seeking to help protect all of us is instead taking a page out of the bush administration's post $911.00 playbook and is looking to decimate our legal and constitutional rights under cover of national catastrophe politico is now reporting that according to recently uncovered documents submitted by the d.o.j. to congress that the justice department has proposed that congress grant the attorney general power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue. of any natural disaster civil disobedience or other emergency situation as norman l. reimer executive director of the national association of criminal defense

and the democratic establishment has more to lose from burr under bernie sanders than they do from letting trump win a 2nd term and you know let's not get this wrong i'm sure they have no illusions that joe biden is a terrible candidate to go up against trump and probably won't when they don't care at the end of the day. is more a. trump serves the class interests of the democratic establishment way more than bernie sanders ever could bernie sanders actually challenges that and that's why they're fine with another term president feel like is that they've had a great 3 years being in the opposition it's so easy to be in the opposition you can reel in money you know support us every time trump does something that without actually doing anything to challenge any of the policies that trump is pushing or putting into place they don't actually do anything it's all just symbolic nancy pelosi hand clapping you know to make everybody think we're the big opposition we're actually approving almost all of trump's legislative agenda at the end of the day they are more threatened by bernie sanders than

like us congressman richard burr who in his position of senate intelligence committee chairman heard the news of the impending pandemic before the rest of us and chose to save his own ass set's while selling our physical and financial safety up the river or what about the united states department of justice who instead of seeking to help protect all of us is instead taking a page out of the bush administration's post $911.00 playbook and is looking to decimate our legal and constitutional rights under cover of national catastrophe politico is now reporting that according to recently uncovered documents submitted by the d.o.j. to congress that the justice department has proposed that congress grant the attorney general power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings.

going to talk about owning it right now i love that there are some cats just stepping up bill burr you know dave and just saying i can't play this anymore you guys do what you have to i'm going to speak my mind like it or don't like i think i come from this is the one area where being in india you get to come from a better place than you get to come from and i explain that in that if you're offended a joke in india i get to say so. so what you know offense is never given it's taken i didn't come here to give offense you took offense but i'm offended by potholes in the road and pollution and that so much of my country is under the poverty line and there's danger towards women and there's no internet intensities boohoo about you joke you know and you kind of get to do that where i come down and you've got the rhino skin you know the natural you know hard times over them i saw some cats chiseling marble statues and they didn't have the breath later on and all that and i just drove by that i thought you know that we have turned into such a whiny spineless culture in a way over here and it

show us who we really are especially who are chosen leaders really are like us congressman richard burr who in his position of senate intelligence committee chairman heard the news of the impending pandemic before the rest of us and chose to save his own ass set's while selling our physical and financial safety up the river or what about the united states department of justice who instead of seeking to help protect all of us is instead taking a page out of the bush administration's post $911.00 playbook and is looking to decimate our legal and constitutional rights under cover of national catastrophe politico is now reporting that according to recently uncovered documents submitted by the d.o.j. to congress that the justice department has proposed that congress grant the attorney general power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster civil disobedience or other emergency situation as norman l. reimer executive director of the national association of criminal defense

labor leadership candidate richard burr going to join me now is someone who refuses to be silent of a journey and songe things like co-founder roger waters roger thanks for coming in the studio at last a sign of the finally exactly you've been campaigning for julie as songe eloquently they have talked about them i read your book and you know that the british guardian newspaper maybe channel 4 news if you watch that you could be forgiven for thinking you and rich a bug in another.

the single most important exception were the cases out of the burr conspiracy where johnson in fact did dissent but not on a constitutional basis. in 1810, fletcher versus peck presented the first opportunity for johnson to speak out in an area near and dear to jefferson's part. this was compounded by another development. in 1808, the treasured task which will not -- johnson issued an opinion with regard to the jeffersonian embargo where johnson took a position that countermanded the direct command from jefferson. this gave rise to an incredible dialogue. he delivered a little lecture, even president are subject to and should respond to the law. jefferson was outraged. he had his attorney general ceasar rodney a letter to all the court collectors in the country. there was an exchange of views like the post mccullough exchange which was published in the opinion johnson issued. when fletcher arrives, he is not one of the in crowd. he is the enemy. he has got a problem. he wants to be true to his own principles. he wants to be true to the things he had embraced as part of the john marshall