interview with andrew about the fire. >> we had portions of the building collapse -- >> chief burrows thinks the explosions have stopped, but right in the middle of the interview, the fire unleashes its biggest blast of the night. >> any injuries or -- >> not at this time. that was a bit warm. >> honestly, i thought we had pretty much ran out of material to burn at that point but apparently there was a couple waiting for us. >> the explosion caused by the last containers of methanol happens four hours after the fire begins, startling the chief and his crew. >> he was obviously concerned, as were we, because it was honestly quite a miracle that there was nobody injured in this, or killed. >> firefighters continue spraying water throughout the night. finally putting out the stubborn blaze. the next day all that is left of the warehouse is rubble. >>> coming up, a street erupts like a volcano. >> i can't believe i'm alive. >> a tunnel blows up. and a gas leak destroys a shopping mall. >> the aftermath would be a war zone, after a bomb had gone off. >> when "caught on camera: fireball" co

i had for the men who were fighting that war, the biggest influence on me was the photography of burrows. (clicking of camera) the camera is close to the ground. it tends to be behind the protagonists. in other words, it tends to be where it would be in reality. having been a documentary filmmaker, i try and put it in a safe place, where it would be if it were live ammunition. sir! what? your arm. oh. the vietnam film is impossible to understand unless you have all this other background about the world war ii film and the post-war celebration of world war ii on-screen. that hollywood feels complicit that it has told americans about war throughout the 40's, 50's, and 1960's. so when hollywood comes to make the vietnam cycle, they have to say, "forget everything we told you in those previous 30 years of war films. war is really something that is horrible and deadly and it can have no moral meaning." go! (man) go ahead. go ahead, nicky. (man) just do it! do it! (man) go ahead! (click) (laughter) (oliver stone) i wrote "platoon" in 1976, before the "apocalypse now" and "deerhunter" came out.

south side is doesn't have any place to go so we'll have significant flooding in manhattan and the burrows. the other is the massive wind field, 50 to 60 miles an hour as far as chicago from this storm. >> quickly, we read the full moon had something to do with it. >> it does, that storm surge means you have astronomical high tide. add 8-foot storm surge and 20-foot waves on top of that. >> interesting. thank you so much. good advice. >>> wow, it's time for "sunday house call." joining us, dr. marc siegel, the author of the inner pulse, unlock the secret code of sickness and health. >> and the vice president of the robotics. we welcome both of you. >> good morning. >> we begin with a shocking study found that serious birth come indications are on the rise in our country. researchers found heart problems are among the most common. why the increase and what do we do? >> this is coming out of the center for disease control. they found there's 52,000 women with serious complications after birth. the reason it's rising in my opinion and i spoke to dr. william callahan, the author of the study i

next map and you will see that it's really all over the five burrows of new york city. brooklyn, staten island, the lower end of manhattan, queens and all along these beaches. all mandatory evacuations. a sturgeon is on the way. next map. it's going to come right up through the center of all of this. it's gonna batter into new york city. this is fire irelandal island "island. a storm that cut a government cut a long time ago. dude road in the hamptons, all of this expected to get a sturgeon somewhere between 6 feet and 11 feet. the local emergency managers are telling us it may on 00 high side of that. because we have a combination that never in the history of this region has been seen. and that is a storm coming ashore directly at high tide during a full moon. and truthfully, a 6 to 11-foot sturgeon and all of this is in big trouble as is the subway system in lower manhattan. news is breaking now in new york city as not only we have that crane disaster but also word of a four story apartment building which caught fire and has now collapsed. we're told it's at 14th stre

candidates learning mostly about the sort of message going back and forth and after 2,009i really sort of burroweddown in this world of people doing research in the campaigns in academia and institutions in washington and elsewhere and i was convinced that is where the untold story of a lot of what is really going on these days is taking place. >> host: interesting. what do you want the reader to understand when they read this book what is that nugget that you want them to come away with? >> guest: i want them to understand what we see on tv and in the newspaper every day as continent of the campaign is very little of everything that is going on. campaigns are far more than what is said in their ads or were the candidate goes that is too much of the campaign coverage that assumes this is sort of the entirety of the campaign activity. most campaigns and the provincial level most part doing other things and that is the candidate giving a speech, buying ads, explaining why they do what they do in many ways it hasn't changed with the stuff that is invisible to less cost if i try to write about in this

option, building high density worker housing, is off the table due to the impact on wildlife like burrowing owls. >> the pressures on our wildlife resources would be so severe, you could probably kiss some of those endangered species good-bye. >> reporter: so for now, people are coming up with their own plans to beat the backup. >> i definitely have given up on trying to fight the whole traffic thing. and i'm depending solely on my bikes. >> this is the type of problem that some people would like to have but that doesn't make it easier to solve. 40% of commuters into the area are using alternate transportation such as bicycles or shuttle buses. so whatever creative solutions in the future will have to be even more enticing. live in mountain view, len ramirez, cbs 5. >>> checking other bay area headlines, a marin burglary suspect is suing his alleged victim. police say 31-year-old samuel sutrafelli attacked a 90-year- old man in his greenbrae home last january tied him up at gunpoint and ransacked his house. he got a gun and the two men shot each other. the 31-year-old is suing the 90- year-

we're live in larks burrow standing by with what this new wave of rain could bring. >> there's finally break in the rain. you can see the roads are slick. there's still a lot of oil because the last time there was a major rain here was june and it's causing problems for the cars out here. >> reporter: fist responders are -- first responders are worried about a repeat of this morning's commute with the amount of giants fans. >> ten collisions were reported. >> reporter: causing a ground delay, at weather related power outages around the region. >> we've had a significant band of weather come in through the evening hours. caused some local flooding. >> public works crews in the east and north bay have been busy clearing drains to prevent flooding like this. san francisco was mostly spared today, but the skies opened up around 8:30 tonight. >> first presponders say they -- responders say they caught a break. normally the trouble starts the minute the rains do, but in this case most people are inside watching the giants game. >> reporter: the winter weather the reason that many at this bar

we're live in larks burrow standing by with what this new wave of rain could bring. >> there's finally break in the rain. you can see the roads are slick. there's still a lot of oil because the last time there was a major rain here was june and it's causing problems for the cars out here. >> reporter: fist responders are -- first responders are worried about a repeat of this morning's commute with the amount of giants fans. >> ten collisions were reported. >> reporter: causing a ground delay, at weather related power outages around the region. >> we've had a significant band of weather come in through the evening hours. caused some local flooding. >> public works crews in the east and north bay have been busy clearing drains to prevent flooding like this. san francisco was mostly spared today, but the skies opened up around 8:30 tonight. >> first presponders say they -- responders say they caught a break. normally the trouble starts the minute the rains do, but in this case most people are inside watching the giants game. >> reporter: the winter weather the reason that many at this bar

it just burrows into their head. think about why cnn did this in the middle of a fact check. >> to do that, what we brought in here was a life-size virtual model of a missile. we did this because we want you to see just what size these things are and how portable they are and how easily one could be hidden in a bunker or the hold of a ship. we know they're reasonably accurate. reasonably reliable. we know iran has a lot of them and we know they're powerful enough to carry a small nuclear weapon in that nose cone right up there. iran says it has no designs of developing a nuclear bomb. it does not want to strike israel. it is believed that israel does have a contingency plan for striking iran's nuclear production facilities. the danger? no one knows if it will really work and if it didn't work, iran would not only solve the nuclear program but it didn't have the pretext because it had been attacked. >> cenk: the pretext? it had been attacked. >> it is like cnn does best when we're at war and they can cover war so it m

many, many homes and businesses, we're told that at its peak, 80% of the burrow of little fairy was floodedunderwater at that point. they evacuated more than a thousand people, using boat brigade. neighboring towns tame in to help. >> it's going down another 200 yards south and if you now look north i know, it might be a tougher angle to see past the street sign, past the s.u.v., we're talking all the way into bellmar. >> these rescues started papping and trucking coming in. we're seeing more people stepping out of this national guard truck. >> you see water right up to the doors here in long beach island and just total devastation. >> a jaw dropping video shot from her hunting lon long idol back yard. the rain saturated sail with jarring winds were able to shake this tree down to its core. it looks like a monster coming out of the ground. >> cenk: i grew up in new jersey so i know what it's like in bellmar or was like, what it was like in long beach island before the flooding that you saw. i hope that it shakes the new york media out of its com place ends, because a lot of the media is bas

i burrowed into whatever they published the book on, i read. and when i got a little older, i discovered in the 1950s, bruce compton's beautiful books on the civil war, and the battle on the potomac, which brought the war in lit gary fashion. but at the same time, my grandmother, who was born in 1882, and had grown up among men who had fought -- these men of her father's generation, fought in the civil war, including one -- her father, who had fought in the 88th new york, the famous regiment in the irish brigade and i'm here today because he ducked at the right moment at fredericksburg. but at any rate, when i was a little did, my grandmother entertained me with his war stories, and it was a while before i realized that the war actually occurred in the 1860s and hadn't just happened. so, at any rate, what i'm trying to say is how close history was in the environment that i grew up in, when we went on vacation, we stopped for every roadside marker on a historical subject. and taken to gettysburg at the age of nine and was rivetted. taken to litt

trouble especially in the lower lying areas of lower manhattan and brooklyn and some of the other burrows. that's why the mayor says you still have time to get to those evacuation centers. people need to do that right now. >>> todd live for us in new york city. thank you so much, todd. >> we are 8 days away from the presidential election. mother nature shaking up plans for both locations with polls showing a close race every minute and every day count. >> with the storm making its way up along the east coast president obama and mitt romney are cancelling scheduled events in key swing states including new hampshire and virginia. president obama also cancelling plans to visit ohio and is instead focusing on the storm. he says he's working with the governors and the states at risk the greatest risk of hurricane sandy. he is vowing to eliminate red tape for assistance there. >> my message to the governors as well as the mayors is anything they need we will be there. we are going to cut through red tape. they a we are not going to bog down with a lot of rules. >> the president will hold a rall

more than 30% of the burrows live in poverty. from the new york daily news found one-half of the burrows residents were worried about winding up on the street. can you imagine a national political campaign that talked about homelessness? the home ownership rate in the bronx was just under 20%, which means the vast majority of residents live in rental housing and concerned with safe affordable housing and ignored in the national political conversation. think about what a radical sight it would be to see the residents of the bronx, red and brown, english speakers at a campaign rally with the president of the united states with the elevated subway line running by and the rental buildings dotting the background. this is as american as this image of miners in a coal country. these workers at an auto plant. it's an image you will never see as long as it's rational to ignore more than half the country. barack obama had to say about the electoral college of 2004, up next. managing my diabetes is part of my life, between taking insulin an

these computers are receiving data via satellite from sensors mounted on drill bits that are burrowingil fields all over saudi arabia. the engineers are sending ims-- instant messages--that actually guide the drill bits. >> he is now directing that drill bit to go into the best areas of the reservoirs and suck that oil from it and not leave any oil behind in our supply. >> so, in other words, this drill bit's like a snake. >> it is. exactly. >> it doesn't go like that. >> no. >> it would go down and then follow where the oil is. >> yes, absolutely. and mind you, this is happening 400 to 500 miles from here geographically, and we are sending that drill bit also two or three miles in the ground. >> jum'ah says with this technology, they're able to recover ten times more oil than before. but global demand is dwindling. even americans, the world's leading gas guzzlers, are buying less. in the last ten months, americans drove 78 billion fewer miles than they did in the ten months last year-- same ten months. this is quite a dramatic decrease in driving. >> well, to put it in better numbers,

we do have delays southbound kenilworth avenue headed past eastern out towards burrows. heavy and slow from 234 south headed out to the car rest area just cease of manassas. the slow traffic from fair oaks headed eastbound towards 123. no problems reported close in at the beltway. southbound 270, traffic busy approaching and passing 109. ss that's a check of your fox 5 on-timetraffic. imetraffic. . >>> construction on the express lanes and the virginia beltway is nearly done. they will be available for 14 miles. cars who use the express lanes must have an e-zpass transponder. tolls will vary as the express lanes get more crowded. the costs will go up so traffic is expected to ease off. the average speed will maintain at a minimum of 45 miles per hour, they say. to ride for free, hov 3 drivers must have the new e-zpass transponder. drivers will likely be charged between $3 and $6. off peak could be around $1 to $2. >>> next, we'll go life to fox business network in new york. looking for a degree that pays? find out why you may want to look at the more affordable schools f

one option high density work he housing is off the table due to the impact on wildlife like burrowing owls. >> the pressure on our wildlife resources would be so severe you could probably kiss some of the species good-bye. >> reporter: for now people are coming up with their own plans to beat backup. >> i definitely have given up on trying to fight the whole traffic them every thing and i'm depending solely on my bike. >> reporter: 39% of commuters use alternate transportation like a bicycle or shuttle bus. so whatever solutions they come up with next have to be even more enticing and creative to get those remaining 60% or so to get out of their cars into an alternative. >> that's a big chunk of people choosing some other form of transportation. that's great. >> reporter: yeah. it is. a lot of people are high-tech engineers and they are future- thinking. they want to help solve the problems. so they have some good minds on this. they don't solve it here, it may not be able to be solved anywhere. >> gotcha. all right, len ramirez in the south bay, thank you. >>> facebook had its best d

. >>> author guston burrows turned a painful childhood in fodder for several best sellers.s up in tonight's red chair interview. >> i didn't want to actually kill myself, i wanted to end my life, and there's a huge mother [ muted ] difference. you can end your life, everything about it and still be alive and that'shat i did. i didn't see any possible way that my future could turn out good because even if i got out of this horrible life, i was going to be such a freak. a while back i wrote a book called "running with scissors" and that was about my childhood. my mother was mentally ill and my father was an alcoholic and they couldn't raise me so they gave me away to their psychiatrist. >> you're giving me away to your shrink. >> who lived in a big rambling crazy victorian and he was a nut and i grew up without any supervision, without any adults or rules or bedtime and just went downhill from there. i have a fourth grade education which i think qualifies me to give self-help advice because i have found out that you don't actually need a master's degree in social work to admi

the fantasy 5 ticket was sold at west burrow.the winning ticket plastic bag ban is in effect bags will cost 10¢ per bag. the ban will apply to all retail stores including grocery stores. plastic bags can be used for food takeout. if approved the ban will be adopted on november 26th and in force as early as april of next year. >> the circuit court of appeals in san francisco has been declared a national landmark. it is at seventh and mission street landmark status is reserved for buildings of exceptional historic value. the court house was completed in 1905. >> and out francophile meningitis lead to steroids for back pain are spun for 23 deaths. the latest numbers. if medication made by a specialty pharmacy in massachusetts has been read called a new study finds that heavier people are more likely than leaner people off to be hospitalized for variety of conditions. this is regardless of lifestyle and other health-related. the study finds that the case is not just for obese people for those that are nearly overweight. the hospitali

washed away some of the areas of the beach here and as it has been coming in, you can see the sand burrowing in here. this was the boardwalk that was renovated with stimulus money. that's the major concern. as we go from the evening into the midnight hour, it's going to be pushed up here and you're going to see more beach erosion. the emphasis now, the governor says, is that the most important thing, there are no fatalities that he knows of. very few rescues and for now everybody is safe, chris. >> how are you getting out? are you going to get out? it seems like you described the gee agrafee of the spare there. is there no way to get out of rehoboth tonight? >> right now they have the roads and bridges blocked. you'll have to have credentials and i.d. to get through. they are emphasizing for people to stay put. if you get stuck there are first responders probably at this point responding to real emergencies and if you aren't here and out and about unnecessarily, you are causing more trouble and unnecessary danger for the first responders that would have to be reserved and preserved for rescu

when new york city evacuated just these areas in the five burrows for this storm, the people who were subject to just that order, just the people who live in the red area as marked on this map, just those people and just that population was larger than half the population of more than a handful of u.s. states. just the population in that evacuation area is the population of the whole city of new orleans and as you can see, this is just a fraction of that densely populated area. and a lot remain living under circumstances they have never lived in before. tonight rescue efforts here are ongoing in northern new jersey. several towns along the hackensack river were inundated with water when a tidal surge from the river overflowed its banks. normally the water rises up through the ground, but this time they said it came down the streets and started pouring into their basements first like a trickle and then as one little boy will describe like a waterfall. they said there was no place to run, no place to hide. they literally had 15 to 45 minutes depending where you live in this 1.7-square m

crushed to death after a downed tree crashed into his apartment in flushing in the new york city burrowof queens. there is an urgent call as well coming out of a firehouse in brooklyn, new york. firehouse evacuation of engine 206, which is on grand street off the newton creek requesting not trucks or cars but boats to evacuate the men inside engine 206. the water has risen so quickly. it's a live look at the fdr drive now on the main highway on the east side of manhattan. it is under water south of 20th street all the way around lower manhattan. the storm surge is lower manhattan has reached. the fear was the storm surge would top the previous record of 11.2 feet. instead it's now at 13 feet officially from the national weather service. and arrested cog to the national weather service that is enough to inundate lower manhattan. we are told now the flooding all around the southern tip of manhattan in parts of queens and staten island. communication is certainly limited. 1.5 million people are without power and the damage estimates in the early going here are now at 10 to $20 million, whi

the storm left behind a huge mess in far rock away, a low lying part of the new york city burrow, queensevacuation orders at the time. this is what people have been trying to get home to. and it was a similar scene down the coast in maryland. rescue crews going house to house in some spots pulling people to safety. a live report from the flood zone coming up as fox reports live tonight. [ male announcer ] we got a real mom and the family car to do an experiment. we put a week of her family's smelly stuff all in at once to prove that febreze car vent clips could eliminate the odor. then we brought her family to our test facility to see if it worked. [ woman ] take a deep breath, tell me what you smell. something fresh. a beach. a clean house. my new car. [ woman ] go ahead and take your blindfolds off. oh!! hahahaha! look at all this garbage!!! [ male announcer ] febreze car. eliminates odors for continuous freshness, so you can breathe happy. >> announcer: meet mary. she loves to shop online. and so does bill, an identity thief who stole mary's identity, took over her bank accounts and s

that burrow of new york city has seen some of the worst damage in new york. people were killed there. two residents died in the tottenville section when two homes were ripped from their foundations. shelters and hospitals lost power. congressman michael grimm, part of his district is in staten island and he's on the phone from the brook rain lynn part of the district. good to talk to you, certainly not under these circumstances. obviously you've been on the ground talking to residents. how are things? >> people are devastated. obviously, we've had significant loss of life, which, you know, devastates a community. and, of course, the damage is much greater than anyone anticipated. it really is a surreal scene to see very large boats, you know, in the middle of your block, in front of your house, cars displaced on people's lawns that just came with the waves. and homes literally being ripped right out from the foundation. there's nothing. they look like -- they look like lots with debris over them. something you would expect in a movie scene. >> one of the stor

is probably hiding in burrows and case at one point he did have a cell phone and was calling a daughter, the daughter mentioned earlier who live in a nearby city of riverside and is calling her while he was on the run. he said he was hiding under -- at dawn when the ground temperature is the same as body temperature, if you hide in the sand you can elude infrared technology because it can't detect body heat. he was hiding in the sand and calling his daughter and saying i won't be coming over again. the choppers are above me. so at that point, his son had been tapped and cops sort of knew what general area he was in. i recount various details of the manhunt in my book. by the end of the week, by the seventh they had been told by an informant he was heading to this complex to make his last stand. and it was literally a week after this incident at the trailer, and the bear had been sent in and he knew he was inside, he was inside this complex of sheds that was about to go up in flames and he was ordered to come out. it was a full moon, like tonight, choppers hovering over. news fans flocki

probably hiding in burrows and caves and at one point he did have a cell phone and was calling a daughter, the daughter i mentioned earlier who lived in the nearby city of riverside and he was calling her while he was on the run, and he said he was -- at dawn when the ground temperature is the same as body temperature, if you hide in the sand, you can elude infrared technology because i can't detect body heat and he was calling his daughter and saying, i'll be coming over again. ... >> choppers hovering over a, it was like to giant choppers come it was really quite surreal. he started injecting teargas into the complex. while this final seed was playing out in going on, the detective, who is one of the los angeles county sheriff's department deputy really, i couldn't have done it without him. he was on the phone. he was calling his daughter and the detective was trying to convince him to come in and surrender. it was very dramatic. the doubters in the background. they were trying to work out a deal with the detective. i want to read you a little bit about the final conversation. it is rea

they are coming from all over five burrows that we're working in. they are completely packed. we started limited service yesterday afternoon. we have local buses as well as express buses that come in from the farther reaches of the city. the city is crowded. i'm sure you've seen the traffic problems we're having here. the mayor is dealing with that with his announcement. but i will tell you people are gratified that the service is up. i will tell you and i would like to tell my customers here in new york that we are going to come back in increments. we're going to do the limited service tomorrow for travel tomorrow. there will be more the following day and more the next day and more after that. we want to bring as much back as we possibly can. >> good luck to you joe lhota. we are deeply concerned about what's going on in new york city. we will stay in close touch with you. hopefully you can give usz some good news tomorrow and the day after. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >>> the president of the united states has been touring new jersey some of the devastated

but we need to burrow down into these state by state polls, seven to nine states that are really going to decide these elections, the sliver of decided voters is not really big. the national polls are good to look at for overall trends. but florida, virginia, ohio, these are the ones that really matter to determine the electoral outcome. romney is showing an uptick in these states, but the overall electoral map still favor the president. >> we show that mitt romney leads mean by seven points and that president obama leads among women. it's got to be getting some comfort, i think probably to the obama campaign. i think what we're probably seeing is a continueded focusing on women because that's what traditionally republican candidates try to chip away at. on the other side, we have seen president obama working very hard to shore up the voechlt so i would expect that to continue through the very short time we have left. >> the u.s. and iran have agreed to hold one-on-one negotiations on the nuclear program. what do you make of this, especially being so close to the foreign policy debate.

a fantasy 5 ticket sold at the west burrow have layer row gas station in south san francisco matched all five numbers friday night. get out your ticket and take a look. the numbers are 2, 4, 19, 22, and 29. and those numbers worth more than 230,000. winners have 180 days to claim that prize. >>> rain in the bay area and snow in the mountains. get ready for a storm. a winter storm warning is in effect for the sierra starting tonight. snow is expected to fall above 5500 feet. some forecasters are predicting anywhere from about a half foot to a foot of new snow between tonight and tomorrow night. meteorologist mark tamayo is joining us with a hook at when that storm is expected to hit here in the bay area. >> that's right, mike. so far, it's pretty quiet out there. just some cloud cover, but by late tonight into early tomorrow morning, the first rain drops will be moving in. pretty quiet out there this sunday morning with partly to mostly cloudy skies. we're off to a chilly start with temperatures in the 40s to lower 50s. we'll look at live storm tracker two. as we mentioned, not a lot

she spent four hours driving with a taxi to three different burrows to pick up the waiters. >> eric:new york metro area, the whole country. >> steve: could they possibly pump the tunnels in four or five days? i doubt it. super storm sandy causing blizzard conditions for the past two days in west virginia. right now parts of that state covered with three feet of snow. it would be great if you wanted to ski. but unfortunately, about 300,000 people don't have power. they just want to be warm. kelly wright is amid the snow drifts in elkins, west virginia, where a blizzard warning still in effect. kelly? >> yeah, you're absolutely right, steve. here in elkins, west virginia, there are 14,000 people without power right now. elkins is the seat, by the way, of randolph county. other counties are experiencing loss of power. the governor of the state, says part of the problem restoring power, they have to have -- a loft mountainous ranges here. some elevations as high as 3,200 feet or hire. they have to fly above to get a look at transformers, look at the downed power lines before they can sen

they've repealed that stuff, and they burrowed get of -- getting rid of early voting but they said if local commissions want to do it, they can do it we democrats, we said sure, let everybody vote. then the republicans in this county said no, we want long voting lines because maybe some of the democrats will go home. this was not complicated, but they lost in court. thank god somebody believes that we should not do anything to restrict the americans' right to vote. look, this election is coming down to the end. after the last debate, it is pretty straightforward. president obama says the choice is whether you what my administration to have four more years -- when i came in we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, i had to stop the slide and depression, it continued for a year, we put a floor under it, and we are building the base of prosperity. romney says we messed it up, he did not fix it, throw him out, put us back in. and when you ask any question, he says see me about that after the election you have to understand. i am a jobs guy. i am a jobs guy. i am a jobs guy. what about this, s

they've repealed that stuff, and they burrowed get of -- getting rid of early voting but they said if local commissions want to do it, they can do it we democrats, we said sure, let everybody vote. then the republicans in this county said no, we want long voting lines because maybe some of the democrats will go home. this was not complicated, but they lost in court. thank god somebody believes that we should not do anything to restrict the americans' right to vote. look, this election is coming down to the end. after the last debate, it is pretty straightforward. president obama says the choice is whether you what my administration to have four more years -- when i came in we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, i had to stop the slide and depression, it continued for a year, we put a floor under it, and we are building the base of prosperity. romney says we messed it up, he did not fix it, throw him out, put us back in. and when you ask any question, he says see me about that after the election you have to understand. i am a jobs guy. i am a jobs guy. i am and jobs guy. i am a jobs guy.

people started -- but fidelity was saying no, tech is a -- tech is a thesis, it's a way, it's not dug burrowsnot union vac, not ncr, not honeywell. and it feels creative. >> speaking of tech, let's talk apple this morning. a published report saying apple is likely to unveil its new and smaller ipad october 23rd at a special invitation-only event. that happens to be just three days before the street date for mike soft's new surface tablet. also two days before apple releases its own earnings. and the rumor had been that the invitations would go out on october 10th. that came and went without a peep from apple. but, of course, the timing of it is interesting. a lot of apple watchers, jim, up in arms, because october 23rd is a tuesday and not a wednesday. and apparently wednesday is the day that they always unveil products. and so that's outrageous. what does this mean at the end of the day? >> look, apple is trapped in its own personal momentary bear market. a lot of people -- talking with stephanie link, "fast money" -- discussing the idea that maybe the best thing to happen to apple, it goes

>> burrows, univac, ncr, controlled data and honeywell. way out of the wilderness by becoming a different company. controlled data became ceridian, and cr became a cash register company again, chose to get out of hardware. she needs to get out of hardware. all those companies that survived got out of hardware. >> every remark she made reinforced their commitment to hardware, jim. >> new hardware products. >> that was the sole argument. >> i'd rather own bla black & decker. it's a very good hardware company. this was really, again, in keeping what i've come to expect of hewlett-packard which is you're not going to find a reason to buy it from me. you'll have to find it from others. your question about shareholders, what was her answer to that? you tweeted it. >> it's not my job -- investors will make their own decisions. >> you're on your own, pal. >> she's got to make the case. you've got to make the case, meg. you've got to make the case to investors. the stock right now we should note before we move on down 3.5%. >> let's contrast this w

host: she was talking about giving votes to a burrow, region. guest: the most obvious alternative is for states to enact a system in which electoral votes are divided to reflect the vote and the state. this is a simple and correct approach. in florida, which almost divides right down the middle, people who go to the polls will say, ok, i know that my vote is going to count. if we divide down the middle, half of our electoral votes will go to this candidate, have to the other. that is a reasonable thing to do. it does not take as heavy lifting as a constitutional amendment. detective. the legislature ends a stop this nonsense. we want to go that route of maine, nebraska, create a non- winner takes all approach. vote at everyone's a b counts. as a step that is something is doable in most states. host: the washington post as a story -- it talks about how even the new hampshire as four approached college votes from the candidates are interested in what is happening there. you are left with a story or you are sick, yes, it just turns out that in this